Army Sergeon Lt. Col. Lakin Refuses Orders Until Obama Proves He Is Natural Born

[srkruzich]

Do you think the big business interests that have massive amounts of money will let that happen?

Not much they can do about it.  Essentially, if we as the people were to take back our country, All debts would be cancelled since those debts were incurred under a non existant corporation.   

[srkruzich]

Actually, I think that most, not all, but most would.  It would mean a business enviroment with a lot less government interference, which would mean even more money for them.

Shoot if we could just get the politicians out of the way, we could get everyone a job inside of a year.  ALl you would have to do is make all businesses tax exempt.  That would bring the foreign companies here to do business and create more high paying jobs than we have workers for.

[Varmit]

True.  But I would rather have American companies bring jobs back home. 

[Diane Amberg]

How many years would it take to accomplish all that? Aren't some people going to starve in the meantime?

[srkruzich]

How many years would it take to accomplish all that? Aren't some people going to starve in the meantime?

How many years?  Almost immediately you would have companies starting up here in this country.   They would be americans that would risk all to start a business if they didn't have the tax to contend with. 
Within 6 months foreign companies would setup shop here, and start hiring.  In 1 year major companies would be here, and within 2 years unemployment would be around 2% which means that it isn't people are out of a job but in between jobs ect ect....

fastest way to create jobs is to cut the taxation out. The congress's problem is they are so short sighted that they can't see the forrest for the trees.  by cutting taxes out, you increase employment that means more income, and if you cut out fed taxes then implement a flat or sales tax, then it would bring in more revenue than they are bringing in currently.
THey think that by the imbedded taxation on all products their getting more money when in all reality their killing the golden goose.

[Varmit]

How many years would it take to accomplish all that? Aren't some people going to starve in the meantime?

Yeah.  Probably.  But if they are abled bodied, they have no one to blame but themselves.

[Diane Amberg]

So you have no room in your plan for people who are old or less than able bodied for one reason of another? Our returning seriously injured vets for one.

[srkruzich]

So you have no room in your plan for people who are old or less than able bodied for one reason of another? Our returning seriously injured vets for one.

You know what, thats part of military budget which is constitutionally mandated.

[Warph]

I watched your "interview" with Lieutenant Colonel Lakin the other night, Anderson Cooper.  I assumed you would be hostile, but I never anticipated the level of boorishness I witnessed.  You are a disgrace to journalism—if one could even say you are in that profession.  You spoke for most of the eight minutes, repeatedly and rudely interrupting Colonel Lakin and his attorney.  Your impolite demand that only Colonel Lakin answer your questions suggests you do not understand that a court martial in the Army is akin to a trial in civilian court.  Colonel Lakin clearly has to be careful with his public statements because they can be taken out of context and misrepresented.... as you were clearly eager to do.  The contempt you showed for your guests was palpable, despite your praise of Colonel Lakin's service.... which you obviously tossed in as cover for your attacks.  I have to admit that I had thought MSNBC's Chris Matthews was the king of rude interruptions, but you gave him some competition with your Lakin interview.  (If Matthews refuses to give up his throne, perhaps you can settle for being queen.) ....Warph

May 07, 2010 — Washington, D.C., May 5, 2010. Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who is being court-martialled by the Army for refusing to obey orders to deploy to Afghanistan because the President refuses --even in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary-- to prove his eligibility under the Constitution to hold office, has appeared with his attorney in a live interview on CNNs top-rated Anderson Cooper 360 program.

The court martial process, which begins with the militarys equivalent of a preliminary hearing in a civilian court, known as an Article 32 Investigation (referring to the provision found in that section in the Uniform Code of Military Justice) was just commenced when on May 3, 2010, LTC Lakin was notified that the hearing would take place May 6, 2010. My immediate request for a continuance was granted within hours. A new date will be set soon, most likely in the first two weeks in June, said Paul Rolf Jensen, LTC Lakins civilian counsel. Assisting Jensen in his defense of Lakin is a very experienced senior member of the Armys Judge Advocate Generals corps.

The American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, in the one month since establishing a fund to provide a legal defense to LTC Lakin, has received generous donations from more than 1,200 separate individuals. Details are available on the Foundations website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com.


Here is A. Cooper's video interview of LT.COL. Larkin:

The Liberal media needs to understand some basics:
A Certification of Live Birth (COLB) is a short form birth certificate, a mere abstract based on general information contained in a state's computer files. It is not a long form birth certificate, which contains the details of the birth such as the baby's height and weight, the name of the hospital, and the signature of the attending physician and witnesses. (Your statement that the state of Hawaii accepts the short form as proof of birth and citizenship is misleading; you neglected to mention that Hawaii has traditionally required the long form as documentation, but changed its rules after the controversies over Obama's birth certificate arose. In other words, Hawaii is providing cover for Obama—as are you.)

If Obama's birth was reported as an at-home birth (perhaps by his grandmother), the state of Hawaii would nevertheless have registered the birth, issued a birth certificate, and reported the event to the local newspapers for their published birth notices. Yet there would be no physician or hospital documentation. At-home births were much more common in 1961 than they are today, and Hawaii was no exception. Some assume that Obama is preventing the release of his long form birth certificate because it reflects an at-home, undocumented birth—which would further support suspicions that he was born somewhere other than Hawaii. (One can assume that Obama is not overly sensitive about his birth height or birth weight; thus one can only speculate about what he is hiding from the public. As Colonel Lakin's attorney stated, if Obama releases the long form document he can end the speculation. That Obama is instead spending a fortune on attorneys to fight its release cannot help but lead people to wonder, "What is he hiding?")

A natural born citizen is one who is born on U.S. soil to two U.S-citizen parents.

A naturalized citizen is a citizen of another country who subsequently becomes a U.S. citizen.

A native born citizen is a citizen who was born on U.S. soil.

A citizen can be any of the above. But, just as all trees are plants, not all plants are trees. All citizens are not natural born citizens. The media has improperly (and perhaps intentionally) led Americans to believe that "born in the USA" makes one a natural born citizen. That is not the case.

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." If the drafters of the Constitution had intended that simply having been born in the United States was sufficient, they would have used the term "native born" rather than "natural born." Further, there would have been no need for the words "or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" to have been included. Those words were needed because in 1787 no one was a natural born of the United States. George Washington himself was not a natural born citizen of the United States. His parents were born in Virginia but were British citizens. Washington was also born in Virginia, but he was not a natural born citizen because his parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of his birth. Simply put, the language of Article II, Section 8 makes no sense if one interprets "natural born citizen"—as you and many others do—as meaning nothing more than having been born on U.S. soil.

Despite the fuss made over Obama's birthplace, Obama's place of birth is technically irrelevant. Even if he was born on U.S. soil, he is not a natural born citizen because his parents were not both U.S. citizens. The issue has nothing to do with what people "believe" about Obama's place of birth. The issue is whether we should follow the U.S. Constitution and its inclusion of the term natural born citizen—a term which has historically never meant anything but being born on U.S. soil to two U.S.-citizen parents. That you and many other Americans have not read and do not understand the Constitution does not mean it should be ignored or discarded.

Relevant or not, Obama is clearly hiding his long form birth certificate because it contains something he does not want made public. And you are misleading viewers—intentionally, no doubt—by trying to confuse the short form birth document with the long form birth certificate, and by using the concept of native born as though it means natural born; it does not.

This is not a partisan issue or a race issue, despite media propaganda to the contrary. It is a Constitutional issue. Obama's politics and race are irrelevant to the issue of his eligibility to serve as president. The Republican Governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, is also ineligible to serve as president—even though media pundits and news anchors continue to mention him as a possible candidate in 2012. Governor Jindal was born in the United States, but his parents were not both U.S. citizens at the time of his birth. They were in the United States on student visas, and they later became naturalized U.S. citizens. I do not doubt their patriotism or love of this country, or the Governor's. And I would certainly rather he be in the Oval Office than Obama. But the U.S. Constitution should either be followed—or we are a lawless nation ruled by whim. You may prefer whim; I prefer the law of the land.

Jindal cannot be president; Obama should not. Obama is an illegal usurper of the office. Colonel Lakin knows it; I know it; and objective Constitutional scholars know it. The Justices of the Supreme Court also know it—but they are no doubt fearful that they will be forced to rule on the issue.

D. Yardley Portman
WSJournal

[Diane Amberg]

Knowing what a hot topic this all is, why in the world did the lawyer let his client go on that show? We all know the kinds of heavy handed questions all of the interviewers on these shows, no matter which one, can ask. They do it to keep the boss happy.Why did the lawyer let this happen? I'd fire him.