US Military Defends Bible Verses on Rifles

[jarhead]

All I can say is go back and read previous posts from Mr Wagner. Any time anything comes up about the military and Mr wagner responds to it, it is in a negative way. So I ask Mr wagner---Has there ever been a military "endeavor' in your lifetime that you have supported ?

[Varmit]

And to hell with you!  You are not the only person permitted to have an opinion.

You totally missed the point of my post.  If the troops don't have a problem with it then why is it a problem? 

[Diane Amberg]

Is it perhaps a perceived Christian Bible VS the Constitution and separation of church and state issue? I'm not sure either. But here we go with the personal attacks again.Tsk,tsk!

[jarhead]

I totally agree with Varmit. If the troops don't care, what's the problem ? If an induvidual don't want it on his weapon---take it off !!! as for seperation of church and state---how about it's a troops freedom of speech right ?
Me asking Mr Wagner if a woman Marine whupped him is not a personal attack. If the WM DID pound him to a pulp---then that act was a personal attack !!!

[srkruzich]

I totally agree with Varmit. If the troops don't care, what's the problem ? If an induvidual don't want it on his weapon---take it off !!! as for seperation of church and state---how about it's a troops freedom of speech right ?
Me asking Mr Wagner if a woman Marine whupped him is not a personal attack. If the WM DID pound him to a pulp---then that act was a personal attack !!!

ROTFLMBO yeah that would be a personal attack.

First of all what does separation of church n state come into play being that separation of church and state has nothing to do with the constitution. Its not written in the constitution.  The first Amendment only states that we have the freedom OF religion not FROM religion.
So there is no issue. Especially if the marines and soldiers don't have one.

[frawin]

I totally agree with Varmit. If the troops don't care, what's the problem ? If an induvidual don't want it on his weapon---take it off !!! as for seperation of church and state---how about it's a troops freedom of speech right ?
Me asking Mr Wagner if a woman Marine whupped him is not a personal attack. If the WM DID pound him to a pulp---then that act was a personal attack !!!

JARHEAD, you are a classic, the Forum needs more people with your wit and attitude.

[Anmar]

a couple thoughts on this thread....

Its nice to see warph finally showing his vile racism in a more plain manner instead of trying to veil himself like an old afghan woman.

Varmit suggested that the soldiers do something about it if they don't like it.  Soldiers don't really have the right of free speech.  They probably don't have the right or ability to remove engravings from their weapons, and we don't really know what soldiers feel about them.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, except actively serving military.  Their opinion is their commanding officers opinion.

When both the jews and muslims agree on something (notice how warph railed against muslims, but not a word against the jews who have the same opinion)  they are probably right.  They both said its a detriment to our armed forces because its useful propaganda for our enemy.  I agree with this pov.

[jarhead]

Thank you Frank but I'm sure you are in the minority if you think I'm witty.
You are wrong Anmar, unless things have changed since I was active duty. Our CO asked his Platoon commanders opinion in alot of matters and in turn the platoon commander asked his squad leaders and squad leaders asked his men. Hell, even a lowely grunt / radioman ( I mean a Communication Specialist ) like me gave my opinion and at times, though rarely, it counted. Not sure you understand what it's like in a combat zone Ambar, but for a short time I had an (acting ) 18 year old PFC as a platoon commander and sevearl times had an E-5 Sgt as a platoon commander and trust me--their opinions counted.

[Anmar]

some new info:

apparantly, they sell the same equipment internationally, and the other countries complained as well.

[Warph]

a couple thoughts on this thread....

Its nice to see warph finally showing his vile racism in a more plain manner instead of trying to veil himself like an old afghan woman.

Varmit suggested that the soldiers do something about it if they don't like it.  Soldiers don't really have the right of free speech.  They probably don't have the right or ability to remove engravings from their weapons, and we don't really know what soldiers feel about them.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, except actively serving military.  Their opinion is their commanding officers opinion.

When both the jews and muslims agree on something (notice how warph railed against muslims, but not a word against the jews who have the same opinion)  they are probably right.  They both said its a detriment to our armed forces because its useful propaganda for our enemy.  I agree with this pov.

Well... well... well... look who finally crawled out from under his rock.  You sound upset.... what's wrong?  Did you get profiled when you came through SFO?  Well anyway, glad you enjoyed my comments, Clown.  BTW, when did you became an expert on the military?  I know, you've been watching Ollie North on Fox, haven't you?  You need to go back and re-read what Jarhead and Varmit had to say and see if it sinks into that marble head of yours.... though I doubt it will.