There are NO socialists in the US Government!

Started by Patriot, November 29, 2009, 03:39:58 PM

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Patriot

Well, ok, maybe that was a misleading subject line.  It seems that as many as 70 of our 'elected' representatives in the US Congress are members of a political group known as the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).

What, you ask, is the DSA?  Well, according to their website this PAC is described in their own words:

The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. DSA's members are building progressive movements for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in American communities and politics.


And who are these elected officials who are members?  More information can be found on in the PDF file at the following link (list begins on page two of the PDF):

http://www.commieblaster.com/dl/DSA-Members.pdf

For more 'fun stuff', visit the DSA website here:  http://dsausa.org/dsa.html

This is NOT the America your momma and papa told you about!

Conspiracy?  Can't say for sure.  Theory?  Nope.  Dangerous for you and your heirs?  You betcha!

Wake up America.  Take your country back before it's too late!

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Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

Patriot

For further consideration:

NAZI:  The German Workers' Party name was changed by Hitler to include the term National Socialist. Thus the full name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP) called for short, Nazi.


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Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

Anmar

what a piece of crap that link was.
Hey,  i got an idea, lets just replace the word "demorat" with "Socialist" and call it a day, right?

Do you forget that it was the REPUBLICANS that bought up the banks and the auto industry?
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Do you realize that despite the fact that the Nazi party contained socialist in their title, strictly speaking they were conservative larger government statists?  The fact that the name contained socialist was a misnomer, they didn't act as a socialist government would rather they acted in a Nationalistic fashion instead.  It is interesting that people make constant comparisons between Hitler and Obama where Hitler did not govern in a liberal fashion.

Patriot

Quote from: Anmar on November 29, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
what a piece of crap that link was.
Hey,  i got an idea, lets just replace the word "demorat" with "Socialist" and call it a day, right?

Do you forget that it was the REPUBLICANS that bought up the banks and the auto industry?


LOL... 'demorat'.  Freudian slip?

Ok, rather than just say the link was crap, how about you expand with some facts n figures of your own choosing.

The only particular party I was referring to was the Socialists.  I'm sure there are both 'demorats' (I really like that) and republicans who, if they were really examined, exhibit socialist tendencies.  Especially in a society that has gradually become more and more dependent on and/or servants to the federal government and its' bureaucracies.   If the fact that throughout history socialists tend to affiliate with 'democratic' bothers you.... well, you have every right to be bothered, I guess.  

It might be more accurate to evaluate our current political direction as a rather cozy relationship between some in the wealthy class, big businesses (Can you say: GE) and the political class.  As such, the trend is more toward an oligarchy.  Even so... oligarch, socialist, communist, or marxist, all are antithetical to the republic which is (or was intended to be) the basis of America.  Unlike all of the 'ists', our republic was to be a bottom up form of representative government, not a top down form of dictatorial rule.  I'm sure that spending some time with the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Federalist Papers would enhance that understanding.  But if I'm missing something, do tell.

Conservative to the Core!
Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

Patriot

Quote from: jerry wagner on November 29, 2009, 10:06:39 PM
Do you realize that despite the fact that the Nazi party contained socialist in their title, strictly speaking they were conservative larger government statists?  The fact that the name contained socialist was a misnomer, they didn't act as a socialist government would rather they acted in a Nationalistic fashion instead.  It is interesting that people make constant comparisons between Hitler and Obama where Hitler did not govern in a liberal fashion.


In the for what it's worth department, I'm making no direct comparison between Obama and Hitler.

While statism is probably the most accurate outcome, consider the following discussion of 'socialism':

Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalisation (usually in the form of economic planning), but sometimes oppose each other. A dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy.


Surely we can agree that Hitler was big on the nationalization of the means of production, distribution and exchange.  Hence the socialist nature of the party he named.  What I find fascinating, is that socialism is generally accepted as a means rather than an end.  A means to bridge the gap between capitalism and communism.

There is one other thing on which I hope we could agree.  The trend in this country over the last 100 years toward a larger and more centralized government fraught with its' massive bureaucracy is NOT what was intended and presented in the US Constitution.
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Gun control means never having to fire twice.
Social engineering, left OR right usually ends in a train wreck.

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