Goverment Schools

[redcliffsw]

Diane, regarding your comments about about the state of Mississippi,
your socialist Fed's and their schools have kept more people ignorant
across America than the state of Mississippi ever has or ever will.

[Varmit]

Billy, I have a question to ask you.  I would really like to hear your ideas on this, I am not being sarcastic so please don't attack me. I simply would like your take on how to fund schools if not with tax money.  How do districts come up with enough funds to pay the staff, fund the programs ( educational programs), pay the utilities on the facilities, and get kids to school through bussing? 

Honestly, it should be paid for at the local and state level, not with federal funds. 

[Diane Amberg]

How? Would you leave impoverished areas with no schools at all?

[Varmit]

Yes, I would.  The problem with most "impoverished" areas can be layed at the feet of the folks that live there.  Drugs, Crime, Trash, and all the other problems associated with impoverished areas are a direct result of the mentality of the people living in those areas.  Buisnesses and industries are not going to go to these areas because no one in their right mind would want to set up shop in these areas.  But no one will admit that, all we hear is how it is a racial thing.  Evil, Rich, WHITE, Capitalists don't want to go to certain areas because the population is maninly black or hispanic is the excuse we are fed. 

[Sarah]

Yes, I would.  The problem with most "impoverished" areas can be layed at the feet of the folks that live there.  Drugs, Crime, Trash, and all the other problems associated with impoverished areas are a direct result of the mentality of the people living in those areas.  Buisnesses and industries are not going to go to these areas because no one in their right mind would want to set up shop in these areas.  But no one will admit that, all we hear is how it is a racial thing.  Evil, Rich, WHITE, Capitalists don't want to go to certain areas because the population is maninly black or hispanic is the excuse we are fed. 

I do have to agree with that.  No one wants to take responsibility for their actions, but rather to blame it on someone else.   What we are is as much a condition of our own thinking as it is anything else.  True that almost everyone falls on hard times at one time or another, but it's a choice to stay there or not.

[Varmit]

Well said Sarah.  The best way to combat poverty is to make people uncomfortable in their poverty.

[Sarah]

Well said Sarah.  The best way to combat poverty is to make people uncomfortable in their poverty.

Well, unfortunately, as long as they can have kids for free, get free money from the state, low cost housing and everything else, they're quite content to stay that way.  I remember when I was in the hospital with Ember there was a young couple that my husband talked to.  They had just had their 6th child and he said he was happy because the state was paying for everything.  My husband came real close to telling him, "no, we're paying for it." 

[srkruzich]

How? Would you leave impoverished areas with no schools at all?

quite frankly if we can edcuate all these kids out there in third world countries for a dollar a day, then impoverished areas can educate for the same. 

As it is, the "Government Schools" can't even educate the impoverished areas.  Look at Appalachia.   Most of those folks there can't read, write or do math. So what happened? 

[srkruzich]

Yes, I would.  The problem with most "impoverished" areas can be layed at the feet of the folks that live there.  Drugs, Crime, Trash, and all the other problems associated with impoverished areas are a direct result of the mentality of the people living in those areas.  Buisnesses and industries are not going to go to these areas because no one in their right mind would want to set up shop in these areas.  But no one will admit that, all we hear is how it is a racial thing.  Evil, Rich, WHITE, Capitalists don't want to go to certain areas because the population is maninly black or hispanic is the excuse we are fed. 

Well i mentioned Appalachia.  It is one of the poorest areas of this country. But there is nothing there but mines and most of the folks there are generational miners.  The Government won't put any money into it cause how else do you get people into the mines?  Keep em poor unable to move and uneducated and you have cheap labor and constant supply of new laborers when the old ones die off of lung disease. 

Now a new method of keeping these folks uneducated and in slavery is the meth production.  The predators have moved in and started manufacturing there because of its remote location and they get these folks with no hope hooked.   government schools are worthless in these areas or non existant.  There are a lot of good folks in those hills too, and they rely on their own people not the government nor anyone else.

[Diane Amberg]

 Interesting to hear your comments. I never said I disagreed. I'd like to see our states keep their own money for their schools. We would come out pretty well, wouldn't have to give you any. I do have to disagree somewhat with a couple of your business statements. You have so few minorities where you are I can't expect you to know the truth. In Wilmington there are sections that are all black.The store owners are not "rich whites." They are black too and struggle with theft and shop lifting and drugs just like everywhere else.
Steve, I'd agree with you on the Appalachian mining areas but I was already slammed by Red, so I didn't bother continuing. I think you'll find most of the problems there have to do with the mine owners and the company store history more than the Gov't. We have a number of people here who did manage to escape that and came north for industrial work, mushroom farming or migrant labor farming. One of their problems was the actual cost of moving, the resettlement costs. In a few cases some churches up here got money together to help people move. Kind of like the dog rescue groups now, but then it was people.  It is extremely difficult for very poor people to move somewhere else. They really can't afford it. Unfortunately there are people who do abuse the system and some who lie about their status and manage to find out which states have the most liberal welfare policies and will go there.  They are real boils on the butt of society. Inner cities have the same thing. Honest, proud, poor people who manage by helping each other and then there are the wolf packs who prey on everyone else around. Really mean gangs including the Russian Mafia, the young girl slavers and on and on. They come in all shapes, sizes and colors. Ya don't want them.