Are you a Constitutionalist?

[Anmar]

Hi teresa! how are you?  over your cold by now i hope

[Teresa]

Yep.... fit as a fiddle.. and ready for Halloween tomorrow night. 
Then gone and off again ... then home for a few hours ..then gone again.. then home for a night.. then gone again for a week..
sighhhhh...............   no rest for the wicked!

[flintauqua]

Is it time to change the straw in the broom yet?

[Anmar]

Glad to hear it.

[Teresa]

Hang it where the sun don't shine Flint.. 

and noooo my broom is making the rounds very well with the same straw that it has had for the past 3,000 miles..

[flintauqua]

Too bad Tabitha there isn't looking back at you in the mirror.  The flying monkeys look a little like the baby gator from Pearls Before Swine.  

[pamsback]

...never should of went to start with......Bush bit it off......now we HAVE to chew and SWALLOW.

So we just let the attacks on 9/11, the USS Cole, the continued attempts of attack, go unanswered? 

No we don't we F*&^ em UP and come home..not blow some shit up....and then kiss their asses and build it back better than it was. The reason I ain't been talkin much is because I am dead ass tired of your attitudes and bullshit jumpin down throats if somebody expresses an ORIGINAL thought in here. Everybody in here is an AMerican.....we all don't have the same political reasoning although according to Reds test even us supposed "kumbyya singin liberal whatthef-evers" are just as much Constitutionalists as you "hard-core Americans " All your chest-thumpin, well I'll just blow the hell out of and kill em all .......when and if a fight comes...I'll have YOUR back...reckon I can trust you to have mine? Or are yall just mouth?

[srkruzich]

Okay genuis, do you really think that the founders meant for the constitution to apply to the entire world?  Of course they didn't, if they did then they would not have placed a monetary fee on people who wanted to become citizens.  We are not torturing American citizens, therefore there is no violation of the constitution.

No of course not. The constitution doesn't and has never applied to non citizens.

Futhermore, the nation building you speak of is a part of the hearts and minds philosophy.  We did not invade for commercial reasons you idiot.  We went there because 3000 americans lost their lives in a cowardly attack against us, or have you forgotten that.

True your right, we are there cause we were attacked first.  But you do realize what does separate us from the rest of the world and is a major part of our uniqueness and sets us apart from the rest of the world is that we don't go in and blow * up and leave.  We go in, blow * up and then after we get rid of the problem, we restore that country back to where it was before we blew it up and set it on a path to prosper on their own.  We did it with Germany, Japan, France, Italy in WW2, and we did it in Korean war with South Korea, and we have done it with Iraq, and will do it with Afghanistan once we remove the agressors. 
Is it our job technically?  No its not, to the victor go the spoils of war. But.... We are a nation that practices what we preach in that we don't tolerate agressors and we don't become the agressor and take things from folks.

Just for the record, how is going after our enemies NOT defending american lives and property?

It is defending our lives and property. 

As for Isreal, you better believe I support them.  However if we were to cut off foregin aid to them then we would have (and should) cut off all aid to everybody else. 

Well, Its like this, we are nation founded under Gods principles, and Israel is God's chosen people. It stands to reason that we would support them especially when the world stands against them.  No one can stand against Gods nations and survive.

[Varmit]

As for torture and the constitution.  It says that men are given certain inalienable rights by God.  MEN, not AMERICAN CITIZENS.  I think you need to go back and read the constitution.  It doesn't say american citizen, it says no person, no man, etc etc. 

HAAA!  Talk about confused.  You can't even get your documents straight.  Let me learn you something...

This is the Preamble to the Constitution:

"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Notice two things, it was written by Amreicans and established FOR AMERICANS.  Got that?

The document you are refering to when you talk about inalienable rights is the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,.."

I NEVER said that I supported nation building, I don't.  I don't know where you got your information on that one. 

As for Isreal being involved with us.  I don't have a problem with it because of my religious beliefs.  A right that is guaranteed by the Constitution.

[Anmar]

Ok, so let me be clear about something, you don't mind another country having control of our government because its part of your religous beliefs?