Obama and the Spineless Republicans

Started by redcliffsw, August 18, 2009, 09:08:27 PM

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pamsback

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Dude....Chick....whatever you are you REALLY get on my nerves sometimes.........You are so smug and SO sure everybody who doesn't TOTally agree with you or the fine people at WOrld Net Daily is on the government tit that is actually makes me laugh when it doesn't piss me off.

Do you like ever read what people say? The WHOLE thing or just the parts you can twist to mean what you want?

I'm ready to hear the STORY the WHOLE story not the *&^%$#^ propaganda that is being thrown around. The government is GONNA do SOMEthin and I want to be INformed so I know what me and mine are IN for.

I don't want or take anything.......I don't WANT any government interferance in my family which is why I have never signed my daughter up for the Well Kids or any OTHER program. I and my HUSband pay cash when we go to the doctor when we are SICK which is not very often.

I'm not gonna sign up for any program they come up with NOW. If they try to force me I'm gonna raise hell and put a chunk under it. Now I'm hopin that is plain enough english for ya bud.

So quit yankin my chain just to see if you can piss me off K?


Anmar

Quote from: redcliffsw on August 19, 2009, 11:31:58 AM

Pam-
It sounds like that you are ready to hear a Republican proposal
for Federal health care. 
   

I've been ready to hear one, but they haven't come up with anything.  They are too busy pandering to the insurance companies i think.  There needs to be Health Care Reform, just about everyone close to the issue agrees on that. 
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

redcliffsw


I hope there's no more health care proposals as the Fed's ought
to forget it.  There's other things that ought to be done like
repealing the 16th amendment and abolishing the Federal reserve.

Good artcile here by James Kennedy
http://www.kennedytwins.com/oped.htm





pamsback

yeah they should repeal the 16 amendment but then what would all them politicians do for a job :P

Warph

Quote from: Anmar on August 19, 2009, 03:36:53 PM

I've been ready to hear one, but they haven't come up with anything.  They are too busy pandering to the insurance companies i think.  There needs to be Health Care Reform, just about everyone close to the issue agrees on that. 
I agree we need health care reform.... what do think of these w/o government intervention?

**Stopping insurance companies from charging older Americans unaffordable premiums because of their age.
**Ending the practice of excluding people from insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
**Holding down health costs and making insurance coverage more affordable for all Americans.
**Making prescription drugs more affordable by narrowing the Medicare doughnut hole, bringing generics to market faster, and allowing Medicare to negotiate better drug prices
"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

Anmar

Quote from: Warph on August 19, 2009, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: Anmar on August 19, 2009, 03:36:53 PM

I've been ready to hear one, but they haven't come up with anything.  They are too busy pandering to the insurance companies i think.  There needs to be Health Care Reform, just about everyone close to the issue agrees on that. 
I agree we need health care reform.... what do think of these w/o government intervention?

**Stopping insurance companies from charging older Americans unaffordable premiums because of their age.
**Ending the practice of excluding people from insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
**Holding down health costs and making insurance coverage more affordable for all Americans.
**Making prescription drugs more affordable by narrowing the Medicare doughnut hole, bringing generics to market faster, and allowing Medicare to negotiate better drug prices

Warph, i'm in agreement with 1, 2 and 4.  I'm not sure if putting price controls on health costs would be the best course of action.  I think a better solution would be to find a way to reduce costs by giving doctors some protection from over the top lawsuiits, by not asking people who pay to make up for those who don't, and by not allowing the insurance companies (or private organization)to spend so much money lobbying politicians.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

sixdogsmom

Warph, those points are what President Obama campaigned on. Where have you been guy?
Edie

pamsback

  Basically Diane they( which I am) have to practice as many preVENtive measures as they can, educate themselves as much about home remedies as they can, and make their peace with the fact that if somethin horrendous happens they willl just have to make the best of it.
 Somthin has to be done about premium prices.........they want 500 dollars a month for coverage( for us anyway)for 1500 deductible...if you never USE it that adds up pretty damn quick.(not countin what you spend tryin to meet the deductible)....multiply that by the number of OTHER people who never make a claim and you have a DAMN good racket.

sixdogsmom

Pam it only takes one event to get the expense to $500,000.00 and more pretty quick. You are playing with a time bomb having no coverage. Check into the averages, that is why the price is expensive. People get sick on a regular basis, and unfortunately the older you get the more likely it is you will get sick. I had a friend a few years back whose Mom got sick before her medicare kicked in. She had a long illness and eventually died. My friend accepted responsibility for her Mothers' treatment, and as a result lost her home when the hospital pressed for payment. Too sad, she had little resources and it took a long while for her to even partially recover. One more thing, with no coverage, you get charged the very maximum. There is no adjustment on the cost as there is done for the insurance companies. I am currently covered by Medicare and a pretty good supplemental policy that will get me just about the best there is available in this area. Could I use that money for something else? Sure I could, but I don't worry about leaving a lot of expense for someone else to be responsible for either. I don't expect that the reform will look too much different for seniors, and will probably look a lot better for some others. I am sitting back to see what happens.
Edie

pamsback

 I was typin an answer last night when the tornado warnings came and we had to go hide for awhile :P Interestin night around here :P

Anyway....SDM I am gonna tell yall my philosophy and don't expect it to be agreed with......What you said about one episode rackin up half a mill or so......I made the decision a long time ago that if I turned up with somethin that was gonna cause that kind of bill...it was probly goin to get me in the end anyway so I will just go till I can't go and then they can burn me and spread me in the wind. I don't want to spend boocoo bucks and the last of my time tryin to get more time that ain't gonna happen. Just live it till it's gone.

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