Obama's Health-Care Bill

[Varmit]

We were told last year that our childrens shot records would have to be updated in order for them to go to school.

Flintauqua, for some things yes, some no.  Why?

[flintauqua]

Just that this and other advanced countries spent so much time, effort and money to all but erradicate diseases that have killed or crippled millions upon millions of people over thousands of years, that I would hate it if anyone I knew got one of those diseases simply because of a risk (perceived or documented) that is less than being struck by lightning twice or more in a lifetime.

[pamsback]

  I would get my kids immunized nowadays simply because immigrants are bringin diseases that WERE almost unheard of here and we are starting to hear about them again. No this is not a shot aGAINST immigrants, it's a fact of life we have to be aware of.

[bigpoppapeck]

Well is good  to know  that if  i am sick and  dieing and  need  medicine  my life  is  in the  hands  of  a bunch of  retards  that don't  even know  me  in washington. Whats  next are  they gonna  start caneing and  cutting  off  our  heads if  we  break laws? since  when do we  elect  dictators  instead  of  presidents  anyway. America  better  wake  up before  theres  nothing  left 

[Anmar]

School immunizations have been around for a very long time and are considered a public health issue.That can't be pinned on any President. I would definitely have had. If you aren't sure, get your Doc involved.
Hey Pam, ya got bedbugs out there yet?  The east coast corridor is getting bedbugs back big time. New York City is full of 'em. People are so desperate to kill them they are spraying their beds  ( Brooklyn) with gasoline. Talk about a fire hazard. FDNY is going crazy!!! 
    Billy, to touch on the liberties thing again, all those issues you mentioned are state issues, not federal restrictions. Mention what can't be sent through the mail and I'll agree, but it's hardly new. I'm looking for things that are federal and new right now, like passports to visit next door countries, but that was set in motion before Obama too.
  Ok, back to health care. I just can't believe this death panel business. I just don't see it happening. Big Poppa, who is "they"? Surely you don't mean a Federal  caneing office? What judge is going to start that? Beheading? I don't think the local cop is going to issue a beheading citation for a traffic violation.  You are getting into states again, if they don't support it, it ain't gonna happen. Even the federal marshals don't do that kind of thing, not their job. Even your insurance, with the exception of Medicare and Medicaid is a state thing.That's where it should be.  I hate it that some have scared you so.  I'm still waiting for some federal examples of true loss of liberty right now. I think you have more states' sovereignty than you give yourselves credit for.

Diane, Billy listed some good examples.  Warentless wiretapping, search and siezure, indefinite detention, and the likes.  It has nothing to do with healthcare but the Patriot act was an affront to the constitution.

[W. Gray]

In answer to the bedbug problem, Elk County has 'em or had 'em.

Bedbugs were so bad, the June 28, 1873, Longton Weekly Ledger, asked if there was a difference between a Howard (Elk) County bedbug and a South American vampire.

[pamsback]

Hey Pam, ya got bedbugs out there yet?

Uh..........no LOL not in MY house anyway  haven't heard about them in anybody elses....

We were told last year that our childrens shot records would have to be updated in order for them to go to school.

Actually I think that IS a state thing because when we moved here from Kansas Ashley had to get some shots that Missouri required that Kansas didn't. More boosters and a hepatitus shot. Course Kansas may require those NOW we left there almost ten years ago.

[pamsback]

Well lets see what rights have the Feds taken away........

the freedom to OWN another human being
the freedom to treat your WIFE like property
the freedom to discriminate against people because of their race,creed,religion,sex, or disability
the freedom to keep people from voting because of their color or sex
the freedom to drink.....but then they gave THAT one back
then................
the Patriot act.....yall do know there is a provision allowing whoever is president and "Homeland Security"  to take control in the event of a disaster manmade or natural whether it is an election year or not until it is deemed the "crisis" is over? That's the ONLY one that bothers me.

Like has been said most of the pain in the butt regulations and rules come from the state level.

[Jo McDonald]

 
Let me get this straight.


Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What possibly could go wrong?

[frawin]

Jo, you said it all right there. We are going to a Townhall  meeting, with our US Senator on this tomorrow night and I am going to get up and read that to the crowd.