Pentagon Denies Flyover of Patriotic 'God and Country Rally'

Started by Warph, July 09, 2009, 08:28:32 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Warph


Pentagon Denies Flyover of Patriotic 'God and Country Rally' in Nampa Idaho Because of its Christian Content
Contact: Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Christian Defense Coalition, 540-538-4741, 202-547-1735; Brandi Swindell, Director, Generation Life, 208-867-1307; Patti Syme, Director, The God and Country Rally, 208-573-9300

NAMPA, Idaho, July 3 /Christian Newswire/ --


This marks the FIRST time in the 42 year history of the event that a flyover request was denied by the Pentagon.

The event is held ever year to honor the spiritual foundations of our country with a special emphasis on the men and women who serve in the armed forces.

In past years, the "God and Country Rally" has focused on honoring and paying tribute to those veterans who have served our nation in the past and those who are currently on active duty.

At the rally this year, all five branches of the armed services were featured with over 60 new recruits sworn into the military at the event.

After a phone conversation and an e-mail response from the Pentagon, Rally Director Patti Syme says they were denied the request for a flyover this year because of the "Christian" nature of the event.

The e-mail from the Pentagon can be seen here:

http://www.earnedmedia.org/God_and_Country_flyover.pdf

The Christian Defense Coalition says this is a "slap in the face" to all those who have proudly served or are currently on active duty in the armed services.

The group is concerned that this new policy may indicate an open hostility toward public expressions of faith by the Obama Administration.

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, states,

"For years, flyovers have been allowed by the Pentagon at the 'God and Country Rally' in Nampa Idaho.  These flyovers were not to endorse or promote any one religious faith tradition.  Rather, they were held to honor and pay tribute to our heroic men and women who have served or are currently serving in our armed forces.

"For the Obama Administration to deny a flyover for the first time, is a slap in the face to all those who proudly serve our country especially when we are at war.  These flyovers have been a special part of the 'God and Country Rally' for many years.

"Will the new policy of President Obama be that a person has to surrender their faith tradition to honor and pay tribute to our courageous men and women who serve in the military?

"With respect to the economic concerns that the Pentagon mentioned, I would answer this way.  If we can pay hundreds thousands of dollars for President Obama to go on a date with his wife to see a Broadway show and have an expensive dinner in New York City, we can certainly find a way to honor our brave men and women who serve in the armed services with a simple flyover.

"The Christian Defense Coalition will diligently work to reverse this unjust policy and determine why this flyover was denied in the first place."

Brandi Swindell, national Christian activist and Director of Generation Life, based in Idaho, adds,

"For the Pentagon to deny this flyover for the first time in the history of our state is deeply troubling and disturbing. 

"During a time of war and especially around the 4th of July we should be doing all within our power as a nation to honor and respect our military.

"It must be stressed that the flyover was not to honor Christianity but to honor our fallen heroes who have proudly given their lives to protect our country and advance the cause of liberty around the world.

"Does this mean in the future that all public rallies must be stripped of any expressions of faith to respect our military?  This Administration should be protecting religious expression in the public square not crushing it.

"I hope that President Obama will reverse this unjust policy and next year we will be allowed to give the military the honor they deserve."

For more information or interviews call:

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney   540.538.4741     202.547.1735

Brandi Swindell    208.867.1307

Patti Syme Director of  "The God and Country Rally"

208.573.9300

Patti's husband Scott is a Colonel in the United States Army currently serving in Iraq.

"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

Anmar

It appears that the good reverend Mahoney isn't quite telling the whole story about his organization.  In the article, he claims that his event doesn't endorse religion, and is designed to honor the heros in the military.  But you you look at his website, and read the little "about" section, it's all about spreading the word of Jesus, and it doesn't have one single word about the military.  Here's the link.

http://godandcountryfestival.com/the-mission-of-the-god-and-country-festival.html

Our nation has a separation of church and state.  Those of you who claim to be such ardent supporters of the constitution should know that the government can't give an endorsement of any particular religion.  This has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with honoring and abiding by the constitution and ideas of our founders.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Varmit

Seperation of Church and State...really...I didn't see that in the constitution. 
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Anmar

"The chief source of problems is solutions"

redcliffsw


Billy, it looks like you're right again.  There's no
mention of separation of church and state in the
constitution that I can see.




Varmit

Anmar, if this is truely about abiding by the constitution, I would like to point out that obama has spoken in more mosques than churches, and has sang islams praises and flet it necessary to point out that muslims have contributed so much to the world.  His doing all this would appear to be indirect violation of the constitution, by your way of thinking.  Yet, you haven't spoken out against that?  Why?
It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

Anmar

Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on July 10, 2009, 12:34:56 PM
Anmar, if this is truely about abiding by the constitution, I would like to point out that obama has spoken in more mosques than churches, and has sang islams praises and flet it necessary to point out that muslims have contributed so much to the world.  His doing all this would appear to be indirect violation of the constitution, by your way of thinking.  Yet, you haven't spoken out against that?  Why?

What mosque has Obama spoke in?  maybe you can pull one out, i don't know, but more mosques than churches?  give me a break.
"The chief source of problems is solutions"

Warph

Quote from: Anmar on July 10, 2009, 10:57:10 AM
It appears that the good reverend Mahoney isn't quite telling the whole story about his organization.  In the article, he claims that his event doesn't endorse religion, and is designed to honor the heros in the military.  But you you look at his website, and read the little "about" section, it's all about spreading the word of Jesus, and it doesn't have one single word about the military.  Here's the link.

http://godandcountryfestival.com/the-mission-of-the-god-and-country-festival.html

Our nation has a separation of church and state.  Those of you who claim to be such ardent supporters of the constitution should know that the government can't give an endorsement of any particular religion.  This has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with honoring and abiding by the constitution and ideas of our founders.


Anmar... ponder this:  Why in the past 42 years has the Pentagon allowed the flyovers to happen but not this time... and don't quote that letter from DOD, as what we used to call those type of letters, Beetle Baily Memo's... or BB&M's?

My old outfit, the 366th TAC Wing at MT. Home has done some of these flyovers in the past so this gives me the right to question this DOD decision.   

Another thing for you to ponder:  Why in the hell do you think you have any say in this?
"Every once in a while I just have a compelling need to shoot my mouth off." 
--Warph

"If you don't have a sense of humor, you probably don't have any sense at all."
-- Warph

"A gun is like a parachute.  If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

jerry wagner

Quote from: Warph on July 10, 2009, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: Anmar on July 10, 2009, 10:57:10 AM
It appears that the good reverend Mahoney isn't quite telling the whole story about his organization.  In the article, he claims that his event doesn't endorse religion, and is designed to honor the heros in the military.  But you you look at his website, and read the little "about" section, it's all about spreading the word of Jesus, and it doesn't have one single word about the military.  Here's the link.

http://godandcountryfestival.com/the-mission-of-the-god-and-country-festival.html

Our nation has a separation of church and state.  Those of you who claim to be such ardent supporters of the constitution should know that the government can't give an endorsement of any particular religion.  This has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with honoring and abiding by the constitution and ideas of our founders.


Anmar... ponder this:  Why in the past 42 years has the Pentagon allowed the flyovers to happen but not this time... and don't quote that letter from DOD, as what we used to call those type of letters, Beetle Baily Memo's... or BB&M's?

My old outfit, the 366th TAC Wing at MT. Home has done some of these flyovers in the past so this gives me the right to question this DOD decision.   

Another thing for you to ponder:  Why in the hell do you think you have any say in this?

He has a say because he has the right of free speech.  If you don't like it, tough &&&&.  I don't like what you say almost 100% of the time, but I can't tell you you don't have say in something.

Varmit

Oh, I can name more than one...

http://www.rferl.org/Content/Obama_Wraps_Up_Turkey_Trip_With_Mosque_Visit_Student_Meeting_/1603835.html

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/06/02/74585.html

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=101685

Oh, and did I mention that during the campagining that mosques were used to register obama voters?

[url][http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obama-electione.html/url]

It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk