Pirates Vow To Retaliate

[Catwoman]

As far as dealing with this problem, look at WWII.  The Allies didn't wait for Germany to "come to us" we took the battle to them.

Not trying to jerk your chain...But, historically speaking, the European Allies were in WWII long before we entered...Our president was keeping us out of it until we got attacked at Pearl Harbor...There has been documentation that has suggested that he knew we were in imminent danger of being attacked but did nothing, waiting until we were attacked in order to force the issue of our being involved.  But, yes, we played a major role in both the destruction of the Nazi regime and then again in the rebuilding of Germany, England, France, and whatever other country needed help. 

[Diane Amberg]

Very true.

[Varmit]

yeah i know, I was referring more to the end of the war than its start

[dnalexander]

We use fear to a point.  Much the same way a parent does when they discipline their children.  For example, my children fear me and my belt when they screw up.

Billy, I grew up in the era of the fear of the belt. My dad used to whip us with the belt. That was the old days when we didn't know better.  I am not placing judgment on you. I will leave you with what my dad said to me when he stopped using the belt. It never did any good and hurt me as much as it did you. Consider the alternatives. They work better and your kids will grow still being upstanding people just as they are now. Only less pain for all involved.

David

[Varmit]

dnalexander, I'll leave You with the words my Father left me...

He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. Prov. 13:24

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child: but the rod of correction shal drive it far from him Prov.22:15

Withhold nor correction from the child; for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Prov 23:13-14

I had a preacher once that said, "If they deserve it than spank your child, the Almighty even designed children with a place to do it, don't worry you won't break them, they already have a crack in 'em!!"

As far as alternatives. From what I have seen of children these days, I would say the atlernatives haven't done a damn thing, consider the number of gangs, drugs, premarital sex, teenage pregnancy, all of these have increased since the "alternatives" were put in place.  No thanks. I believe I'll stick to the old school on this one.

[Wilma]

Spanking when necessary doesn't hurt the child, but beating does.  And I don't care if the Old Testament says to beat the child, it shouldn't be done.

Are you living in the Old Testament?

[Varmit]

I agree. I don't "beat" my kids.  never said that I did.  even though I might be a "young" dad, I am smart enough to figure out what the Lord was talking about when He gave us the proverbs.

[Wilma]

He didn't give us Proverbs, unless you are a Jew.  He gave us Christ and Christianity and the New Testament.  Which are you?

[Varmit]

I'm one of those Bible Believing folks.  You know the ones that believe that the Bible is Gods word.  I am one who believes that with the gift of Christ the gentiles were grafted into the vine and able to partake of His word, not just in part, but in the whole.  Because if Christians are not able to do so, if they can't take lessons from the old testament, then they can't take that "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth."-Genesis 1:1.  We could go back and forth like this all day, but really it is simple..

God did it, the Bible says it, I believe it.

[Catwoman]

How do you then explain the missing books from the Bible thanks to the efforts of the Council of Nicea?  These were also works that chronicled the life and times of Jesus.