Barack Hussein Obama (split)

[pam]

Now if we could just find a guy (or woman) with McCains experience, Obamas idealism.....................................That would be a candidate to vote for!

[frawin]

Pam, OBAMA's IDEALISM??? is not what this country was founded on and what our forefathers wanted for them and their descendants. What idealisms are you talking about.
Frank

[dnalexander]

Pam that sounds like Colin Powell. Anytime he has been asked about running for President he gives a little chuckle and basically says no way. So we will have to vote for one of the two that we have been given\chosen.
David

[frawin]

David, I would love to see Colin Powell run, I think he would be an excellent President in everyway.In the conversations I have had with so many people that are totally opposed to Obama , I like to ask them how they feel about Colin Powell and I have never had one single person sau that they were not for Colin Powell, that is why I do not think the people that are so adamantly opposed to Obama are opposed to him because of race. In my opinion race is not the issue, it his ideas, his disrespect for the flag, his socialistic views and what I think he will do to this country.
Frank

[Catwoman]

Pam, I like your comparisons of the two major candidates!  I got such a huge grin as I read it...and yes, if you're going to send someone into that barrel of snakes that is DC, you better have elected the biggest snake going in order for anything to get done...but didn't Hillary already lose the nomination? (Aw, come on now, people...just kidding!)

[pam]

lol, Catwoman. Frank, There is absolutely nothin wrong with a little idealism, wishin the world was a better more equal place. My ideal candidate is neither conservative nor liberal but openminded enough to recognize good ideas whereever they come from. I don't know what's in Obamas heart neither do you or anybody else but him. That is true of any candidate, only they know what their true agenda is. This whole election process is basically a blindfolded turkey shoot, hopin you get the turkey and not a buzzard The people who would make good presidents don't want to BE president.

[Catwoman]

That is the very reason why they would make a good president...they're not seeking the position to begin with. 

[sixdogsmom]

What? The founding fathers were not idealistic? Youre' kidding, right? The whole shebang is idealistic from the get-go. This democracy so different than what had been before. Jefferson and Franklin, two of the most idealistic thinkers of their time. The very idea of the constitution and the bill of rights is idealistic, and far from realistic in the time of our founding fathers. Oh My!

Pam, OBAMA's IDEALISM??? is not what this country was founded on and what our forefathers wanted for them and their descendants. What idealisms are you talking about.
Frank

[frawin]

SDM, Websters defines Idealism as "Behavior or thought based on a conception of things as they should be or as one would wish them to be". I am quite positive that our forefathers I dealisms were not what Obama's Idealisms are and that is what I was referring to. Our forefathers did not believe in taxing those that work hard to have something, so they could take it away and give to those that are able bodied but  do not want to work and earn it. The list could go on and on but I will drop it at that. The democratic platform has always leaned towards socialism and Obama is no exception,.
Frank

[sixdogsmom]

When this country was born, there was no income tax. I don't believe in a free lunch either, but I do not think this country should be run on the backs of the middle class and the poor. People making excess profit are unfairly taxing the middle class and the poor with inflated costs for required goods. This has occurred recently in both the energy markets and the real estate markets. Wealthy people should pay into the social security system just as everyone else does; there should not be a cap. I do not believe in welfare for the wealthy, and neither does Barack Obama. That is not socialism, that is idealism. The list could go on and on.