Dodge City, Longton, a Steak Order, and Legal Jurisdiction

Started by W. Gray, July 27, 2007, 02:51:23 PM

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Delmonico

Quote from: Teresa on July 30, 2007, 12:45:27 PM
Thanks Del... I appreciate it.
I guess I will have to sneak over to CasCity when everyone is asleep and take some of your information and post it here.

Don't worry.. I will tell them where it came from..and that I stole it! ;)
If these cinnamon rolls come out that I have raising right now..  I think I'll be able to sweet talk the Marshal into not throwing me into jail..
Maybe..... :-\

Steal anything you want, I'm always glad to share it.  I've got some more information on some other stuff in this thread, but I have laundry in and am busy watchin' this 95 pound puppy of mine play with that 30 pound granddaughter of mine, got to be careful she don't hurt the poor puppy. ;D

If I'm not busy at work tonight I'll see what I can do with that US Marshall that seemed to hang around dodge City for no reason other than to flirt wwith that saloon lady. ;)

Thanks for the welcome, if I can help with anything on history of the Old West don't be afraid to hollor.

Diane Amberg

 Thank Del, for that great information. I knew some, but not nearly that much. I know all my great grandparents and grandparents also used their storm cellars for cool storage, as they were quite deep. They kept pickle crocks, salted beef, cured hams, some salted fish and potatoes, veggies and fruit in them. I was always surprised how cool it was down there. I have several of their big crocks now and they still get used occasionally. You are just what we need on here. Keep it comin.' 

W. Gray

Thanks for the information on the meats.

I would like to add a comment to the favorite meat comments, above.

We found a new hamburger place in the Aurora Southlands and had lunch. I thought the sign said just "Hamburger" but once we got closer the sign actually said "Fatburger." After seeing that sign both of us mulled it over but decided to go on in. Turned out to be a great hamburger cooked in a area that was totally stainless steel walls, ceiling, etc. All the staff had the old fashioned white hats on, etc.  Food was delivered to the table with no customer clean up. However, the prices are a little stiff.

I thought, perhaps, this might be a new chain designed to give some people what they want rather than what the food police want them to have. Turns out, this chain has been around since 1952 but there are still less than 100 franchises in existence. The name comes from the size of the burger rather than what the burger might contain or give. The company also bills itself as "The Last Great Hamburger Stand."
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"One of the most expensive county-seat wars in terms of time and money lost..." Dr. Homer E Socolofsky, KSU

Delmonico

Quote from: W. Gray on July 27, 2007, 02:51:23 PM

For Gunsmoke devotees, the Long Branch Saloon and Delmonico's were two of fourteen buildings that burned in a huge 1885 Dodge City fire. Besides wondering about a restaurant order on Gunsmoke, I have always wondered where the county sheriff and town marshal were. Matt Dillon was a U.S. Marshal responsible for looking into the breaking of federal law over a huge area that probably included parts of Colorado to the west and Indian Territory to the south. However, he always got involved in local tiffs where county and state law ruled and he usurped the sheriff or town marshal duties when he would have had no jurisdiction.


The interesting thing about this is a US Marshall would have most likely never been seen in Dodge City, a Deputy US Marshall might wander through.  With the exception of the Indian Territory (Oklahoma) his duties would pretty limited to Federal Crimes.

The US Marshall was a political appointee and would have had his office in the Federal Courthouse, Topeka I believe for you folks in Kansas.

The US Deputy Marshall also might act as a bounty hunter if someone had a reward on their head, that was considered an exceptable way for one to add to his income.

W. Gray

Topeka it was.

A fellow named Cunningham was the postmaster of Boston, Kansas, on the county line between Elk and Chautauqua counties and was caught stealing from the mail. A US Marshal took him to Topeka for incarceration and trial.

Matt Dillon from time to time did go out in the hinterland to chase someone but I seem to remember the crime was always against the state rather than the feds.

Howard County, from which Elk and Chautauqua were born, had US Marshals roaming around making arrests. In this case, local citizens had been stealing and transporting timber from Indian Territory to build their cabins or had transported stolen horses across state or territory lines.

Another thing that is comical in the old westerns Every town in every western movie had a sheriff and office right there in town.

In reality, the sheriff office was only in the county seat and most of the time the office was in or next to the courthouse. If the sheriff office was right in town so were the other county offices pending the building of a county courthouse.

Each of the townships had a constable who was the policeman for the entire township unless a town was large enough to need a town marshal.

"If one of the many corrupt...county-seat contests must be taken by way of illustration, the choice of Howard County, Kansas, is ideal." Dr. Everett Dick, The Sod-House Frontier, 1854-1890.
"One of the most expensive county-seat wars in terms of time and money lost..." Dr. Homer E Socolofsky, KSU

Judy Harder

Quote from: Ole Granny on July 29, 2007, 11:21:29 AM


I don't have a local butcher shop.


Another reason to visit Elk County.
[/quote]I am going to brag and say WE have a butcher in the store where we can get fresh and good meat all the time.
Kay Claytor and her husband  Richard and their help Christine do a good job of keeping us in meat.
You might like to try them out when you want some special cut of meat.
I think Batsons have a butcher now too.......so come on to Elk County and try us.
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kdfrawg

Just out of curiosity, does anybody down there still raise cattle on grass, with little or no corn finish? I sort of miss the way a steak tasted before everything was made out of corn.

???

Teresa

Lots of cattle raised on grass around here.  ..in the winter cattle are on grass and supplemented with lots of different feeds.
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Delmonico

#38
I'll toss this in here, s scan from the 1906 Crosby Washburn "Gold Medal Flour" Cookbook.  In the 1930's their cookbook would take on the Betty Crocker name.

Mark Twain's description of a good steak.


Ole Granny

What a wonderful mix of words!  I could visualize and almost taste the tender juicy steak.
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