The Triumph of the Reich-Publican Party . . . .

[flintauqua]

From its inception, the Republican Party has been devoted to a doctrine properly called national socialism – the fusion of politically favored corporate interests with national bank and an all-powerful, militaristic central government.
-Will Grigg

http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w277.html

Question - If the Republican Party has been either a Communist/Socialist or National Socialist party since its inception, then why are the Reactionaries, Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists so enamored with it that they are hell bent on taking it over and kicking all actual conservatives out of it? 

Why don't you create your own party? 

You wouldn't have to look very far to find some Ayn Randian Sons of the John Birch Society to supply all the money you would need.

[srkruzich]

Question - If the Republican Party has been either a Communist/Socialist or National Socialist party since its inception, then why are the Reactionaries, Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists so enamored with it that they are hell bent on taking it over and kicking all actual conservatives out of it? 

Why don't you create your own party? 

You wouldn't have to look very far to find some Ayn Randian Sons of the John Birch Society to supply all the money you would need.

That is because they constantly violate the constitution.  In reality conservatives wish to violate others rights granted by the constitution based on their "moral" beliefs. For example, the constitution gives us the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness yet conservatives primarily prohibit us from handling our own life as we see fit. IF i wish to die, they prohibit me from getting help to do that.  They assign some moral cause to deny me my constitutional right to die in the manner i choose.   The constitutional right to life includes death, and by restricting me from doing it, they deny liberty, and force me if i so happen to have some terrible disease that destroys my quality of life, deny me pursuit of my happiness.

That is the basics.  ANYTIME somone denies me the right to follow my constitutional rights like that, because they don't see it as conforming to their morality, they are no better than the liberals taking away our rights to live our own lives.  So far, the only ones who wish to maintain our rights is the libertarian party.  They would legalize assisted suicide, drugs, and get the gooberment out of my life.  I am all for drug legalization INCLUDING prescription drugs.  Why should I have to pay a extortion fee to a doctor to get a prescription to have permission to obtain the drugs that i need for whatever condition ails me.    We should be able to go and buy the drugs we need without the middleman.  By requiring us to get a prescription, they force us to pay an additional 100 bucks to the already high cost of drugs.   

Then you have property rights.   Both parties, dems and republicans do not grand us our constitutional right to property.  we see this in every day things. Permits, epa, taxes, those are just a few things.   They regulate what we can do and not do .  well they try.  I am one for telling tthem to KMA and daring them to do something about it.   I have tossed them off my land before and will do it again!   They tend to back down when you refuse to be bullied.

I have no love no respect, no obeyance to any government intrusion. I make them prove everything they do when it concerns me and my property and possessions.  In fact non compliance is my motto!  Be as much of a pain in the ass to them as i can possibly be! 

[jarhead]

Quotes from srkruzich:
One thing i do believe in is to educate and make available the tools to succeed. IF it cost us as taxpayers a little money, to provide tools, education, then it is a wise use of money. No its not a constitutional part of Government, but it is a smart use of money.

That is because they constantly violate the constitution. In reality conservatives wish to violate others rights granted by the constitution based on their "moral" beliefs.

Steve,
You need to make up your mind, my friend. You can't slam conservatives for violating the constitution and then turn around and think it's OK to fit your agenda. Can't have it both ways.

[redcliffsw]

There's no way to disagree with you, SrKruzich.

Question - If the Republican Party has been either a Communist/Socialist or National Socialist party since its inception, then why are the Reactionaries, Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists so enamored with it that they are hell bent on taking it over and kicking all actual conservatives out of it?  

Why don't you create your own party?  

You wouldn't have to look very far to find some Ayn Randian Sons of the John Birch Society to supply all the money you would need.

Flin t Auqua,

Good question.  There's nothing that I can see worth having by taking over the Republican party.  It's a socialist's and communist's dream to have - an ideal situation, alrerady furnished and ready to go as from its inceptiion with some members who think themselves to be conservative and with a few who truly are conservative.  So why would people of liberty not want to build on the Republican foundation?  There's nothing there to begin with.

As for creating "your own party"?  Good idea.  I'm thinking it's possible to have a truly conservative party all the while the Republican party and the Democrat party merge.

Just my thoughts. We'll see where this mess ends up.

 

[srkruzich]

Quotes from srkruzich:
One thing i do believe in is to educate and make available the tools to succeed. IF it cost us as taxpayers a little money, to provide tools, education, then it is a wise use of money. No its not a constitutional part of Government, but it is a smart use of money.

That is because they constantly violate the constitution. In reality conservatives wish to violate others rights granted by the constitution based on their "moral" beliefs.

Steve,
You need to make up your mind, my friend. You can't slam conservatives for violating the constitution and then turn around and think it's OK to fit your agenda. Can't have it both ways.

Jarhead, because i think that providing opportunities is a good idea doesn't mean i think that the rest of it is ok.  it makes good business sense and a lot of companies do this too.  education at one point in time during our early years was affordable.   Now days, its unaffordable.   One of the problems is taking it from under the churchs that started most of the universities, and allowing government to build their universities and dictate who goes.  

Doesn't mean i am going to support government funded anything. Just means i see the potential and the wisdom in providing the opportunity and i do see the fact that the Pell for one has paid for itself time and time again over the years.  For the amount of money that was used to educate, we as a nation have gotten back a hundred fold in tax revenue. Shrug.  it is ONE just one program that actually worked.

what is interesting is this, those that go to school on pell and do not jump onto the student loan scheme, are more productive in life and produce more.  Amazing what  a grant does that Loaned money does not.  One thing the grant does not do is enslave.

IF you go and look at a scale of liberal to conservative, liberal would fit communist side of politics, the conservative fits more to fascist style, and somewhat right of middle is freemarket.  Thats where we need to be as a nation.

[redcliffsw]

Jar,  

Good point, I missed that.  Taxpayers do not owe anybody education.  And why should goverment educate
to provide the tools to succeed?  Aren't we on our own?

[srkruzich]

One of the things that most people do not realize is the democrat is taken over by the progressive aka  commuist/socialists. But the reublican side is also being taken over by them.  Its just not going as fast as they planned.  The "tea partiers" came in and upset their plans lately.

Totally through the agenda into turmoil.  

[srkruzich]

Jar,  

Good point, I missed that.  Taxpayers do not owe anybody education.  And why should goverment educate
to provide the tools to succeed?  Aren't we on our own?

You know i never said the government owes.   I just merely said that it is one of the best success's that has ever been undertaken by the government.
Instead of costing taxpayers it has funded itself, as well as produced more revenue. 

isn't that one of the things that a controlled government should produce? its own revenue?  After all the Government originally did produce its own revenue through import and export as well as a base tax on states.  If the program is self sufficient and grows its revenue, then it is technically against the constitution. 

[redcliffsw]

No.  The Federal and State governments are not to be in the revenue business or business or education.

The Fed's exist to defend our liberty and instead along the way they've found other things to involve themselves.

They ought to have a going out of business sale but you know how that would be received - socialists would object.