Elk Konnected Survey

[Mom70x7]

Normally I would put this in the Coffee Shop, but this topic has become political instead of sharing information.

I did a search on the forum for "Survey" - Here are just some of the posts that I found:

Elk County Activity Survey - Responses Requested!
« on: July 02, 2008, 02:27:00 pm »
http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,4983.0.html

   
Enjoyed Elk Konnected update
« on: August 13, 2008, 03:57:59 pm »
http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,5416.0.html

   
Elk Konnected Community Update
« on: July 22, 2008, 10:18:27 pm »
http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,5185.0.html

   
Elk Konnected
« on: October 27, 2007, 12:36:04 pm »
http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,3438.0.html



Read and enjoy. The information is here.

[flintauqua]

And here is a link to the original 20 question survey used:

http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/survey_sample.htm

[Ross]

There is no information in all that. Just more smoke and mirrors, and you can't see through it.
Who are the admitted members?
Who are the owners of Elk Konnected?
Names, please?
Who steers the steering committee?

Who fabricated such a generic survey?
Why only certain people asked to participate?
It's all about control isn't it??
Just like the circle of chairs with someone telling what to talk about, who to talk with and how to talk, right?
Control, control, Control  ??

[Patriot]

...Who fabricated such a generic survey?...

Actually, it was developed by Heartland Center for Leadership Development (Lincoln, NE), a large 'community organizer' training organization, and adapted by Public Square Communities, LLC.  Do you remember Terry Woodbury, the professional facilitator hired by Elk Konnected to facilitate their 'community conversations', using consensus development techniques that bear a striking resemblance to the Delphi Technique perfected by the Rand Corporation in the 50s for use in psychological warfare against the Soviet Union by employing group dynamic psychology & using Marxist/Hegelian theory?

[Patriot]

Speaking of the Heartland Center, check out some of their training for practioners (Delphi facilitators)....

http://www.heartlandcenter.info/practitioners.htm

[Diane Amberg]

So you are saying that training is only meant to turn out future Marxists, couldn't possibly be used for any other purpose and everybody exposed to it is too stupid to see through it.....except you? Ouch, what a negative attitude. That is a shame.

[Patriot]

So you are saying that training is only meant to turn out future Marxists, couldn't possibly be used for any other purpose and everybody exposed to it is too stupid to see through it.....except you? Ouch, what a negative attitude. That is a shame.

Don't parse my words.  I'm saying no such thing.  I only offered up their own source information.  What is made of that, in context, is up to the readers.

[srkruzich]

So you are saying that training is only meant to turn out future Marxists, couldn't possibly be used for any other purpose and everybody exposed to it is too stupid to see through it.....except you? Ouch, what a negative attitude. That is a shame.

The "training camps" are designed to weed out those who hold capitalistic ideals.  They only want those who will conform to their views. Thats why they have i think 3 or 4 training camps starting out with 50 of them.  You see, if it were truely a training camp,  They could utilize all 50 volenteers as all 50 could be trained to do something.  But they don't want that.  The idea is that in 3 or 4 more intensive camps they can find the closet capitalist and constitutionalist!

[flintauqua]

Why is a method that is used extensively to seek consensus about the future direction of a company or organization so scary to certain individuals?

http://www.rand.org/international_programs/pardee/pubs/futures_method/delphi.html

"Many factors discourage effective due diligence, from people's psychological tendency to misestimate novel risks to political and institutional pressures that favor short-term results. Long-term policy analysis, however, can help overcome these barriers by identifying these key actions, communicating their importance to diverse audiences, and suggesting the policies and incentives needed to encourage these actions and sustain them over time."

[Ross]

Why is a method that is used extensively to seek consensus about the future direction of a company or organization so scary to certain individuals?

http://www.rand.org/international_programs/pardee/pubs/futures_method/delphi.html

"Many factors discourage effective due diligence, from people's psychological tendency to misestimate novel risks to political and institutional pressures that favor short-term results. Long-term policy analysis, however, can help overcome these barriers by identifying these key actions, communicating their importance to diverse audiences, and suggesting the policies and incentives needed to encourage these actions and sustain them over time."

In my opinion you can manipulate all the people you want, just keep out of local government or come out and be truthful about what yoou are doing it or both. Thanks for telling the people you belive in manipulation of the ignorant by putting them in circles of chairs and telling them how to think, what to think, and who to think with. Good job flintauqua, I couldn't have said it better. In fact I have been trying to enlighten the folk and so have others. Perhaps they will listen to your words. Again I say "Good Job".