Elk Konnected Hand out at County Commissioners meeting on 4/25

[ddurbin]

Oh my gosh, Ross.  WAKE UP, man.  Can't you see that now they want to get CONTROL of all the children of Elk County, even the babies and the pre-schoolers?  They've already got the county government and the school system.  This is just the next step in gaining TOTAL CONTROL.  All you INDIVIDUAL-THINKING folks had better be taking some drastic action before it's too late.  Are you forgetting about Hitler's Youth Corp?

[Patriot]

IF your progressive your ideals are straight from the USSR.

I wonder how many realize that the communist doctrine espoused by Lenin & Marx recognized that to convert a capatalist society to communism required a process that first moved capitalism to socialism.  

From Webster:  

so·cial·ism
noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Definition of SOCIALISM
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2   a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


com·mu·nism
noun \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\
Definition of COMMUNISM
1: a theory advocating elimination of private property
   b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed

How better to advance the cause of the 'collectivists' than to have guided (facilitated) Kommunity Konversations and subscription to central planning concepts by outside organizers & ongoing public/private partnerships (entanglements)?  

Since this country has prospered so greatly under economic capitalism, fed by individual liberty & unrestricted individualism, why would any free & independent citizen want to embrace socialism or communism, which in retrospect, never becomes the 'communist utopia', but always devolves into totalitarianism.  

I must wonder, then, are our local community 'leaders' participating in these serious games of anti-American activity by design or are they beguiled and just involuntarily ignorant of the realities.  I guess the same could be asked of some of the other supporters of Elk Konnected, Public Squares & Beggar thy neighbor programs.  Mock, if you must, followers... many sheep have been led quietly to slaughter seeing nothing but a cup of grain under their noses.  As have many humans in decades past.


Charity at the hands of government, by force of law or under duress is not charity at all... it's theft.

[Patriot]

Oh my gosh, Ross.  WAKE UP, man.  Can't you see that now they want to get CONTROL of all the children of Elk County, even the babies and the pre-schoolers?  They've already got the county government and the school system.  This is just the next step in gaining TOTAL CONTROL.  All you INDIVIDUAL-THINKING folks had better be taking some drastic action before it's too late.  Are you forgetting about Hitler's Youth Corp?

Your ridicule demonstrates clearly the liberal professions of tolerance and diversity.  Yet your ranting references could be seen as prophetic endorsements of things unseen.  What do you know or what are you telegraphing.

[ddurbin]

Patriot,
You seem intrigued with what I may--or may not--know.  How flattering, but sorry, you're one individual with whom I no longer wish to share my thoughts and opinions.   There's that individual thinking coming out again.  BTW, I notice you quite frequently jump in and respond to posts directed at Ross before he has a chance to do likewise.  What's up with that?  Not that I much really care, just asking.

[Patriot]

You seem intrigued with what I may--or may not--know.

Not really, though I'm sure the original invitations on this thread to those who are 'in the know' to come forward and have a public dialogue still stand.

How flattering...

Rest assured, any perception that my inquiries were intended to flatter are purely coincidental.

[Ross]

Patriot,
You seem intrigued with what I may--or may not--know.  How flattering, but sorry, you're one individual with whom I no longer wish to share my thoughts and opinions.   There's that individual thinking coming out again.  BTW, I notice you quite frequently jump in and respond to posts directed at Ross before he has a chance to do likewise.  What's up with that?  Not that I much really care, just asking.

Do you feel intimidated by Patriot?
Does his education styme you?
Mr. Durbin are you afraid to speak your individual mind?
Are you waiting for a Consensus from the group?
I never really got an answer about your thoughts on individuality?

Hell, I'm just a dumbass, redneck hick and I think you may be intimidated by that and individualism and any concept other than the group control.

[ddurbin]

Ross,
You want answers---here you go.

Do you feel intimidated by Patriot? NO
Does his education styme you? NO
Mr. Durbin are you afraid to speak your individual mind? NO
Are you waiting for a Consensus from the group? WHAT GROUP ARE YOU REFERRING TO?  I only belong to 4 groups over there:
The Moline High School Alumni Assn.; The Elk County Rodeo Assn., The Elk County Historical Society, and The Elk County Forum.
I never really got an answer about your thoughts on individuality?  BECAUSE YOU NEVER ASKED ME.  You asked that of ELK@KC.
Don't bother asking me now, it's too late.

Hell, I'm just a dumbass, redneck hick and I think you may be intimidated by that and individualism and any concept other than the group control.   WHILE YOUR SELF-ASSESSMENT MAY BE CORRECT, I'M NOT THE LEAST BIT INTIMIDATED BY IT.  As for Group Control, you seem to be the one that's really hung-up on that.

[Diane Amberg]

Uh, since we don't know who Patriot is ,how would we know his education level? It doesn't matter to me, really. I know he doesn't spell nearly as well as he thinks.  Some time ago he put put a challenge to someone to keep a check on his spelling. I've actually done it and have added two more to the list in the last couple of days. Does it matter ? Not really. Insecurity perhaps? (poke,poke)
 Patriot after all this time you know exactly where I stand on things, so why bother to ask?  You know how feisty an individual I can be and how I reach my political decisions. I'm not nearly as pro Gov't as you want to think. But it's more comfortable to you to label me as something  traditionally ugly  (socialist, commie) and put me into a category that feels safe for you.  You'll turn whatever I say into whatever suits you anyway.  But that doesn't put you in control. You won't somehow change or weaken my position by the labels and name calling and insults.
 As far as little Delaware goes, we have some of everything, including families whose people go back to prerevolutionary times. Their ancestral memories are amazing. Then there are the downstate farmers who play dumb...like foxes!... Some on land that has been in the family for hundreds of years. I suspect I know a lot more about Kansas than you do about Delaware. We're the first star on the flag for a reason.
 By the way, Delaware and the Feds don't own the farms or stores or water supplies etc. No hidden commies here. In Kansas perhaps? They tellin' ya how many kids you can have? Is the state taking over the stores and listing what and how much and at what price one can sell? Or buy? Does the state come in and buy all the crops at their own price? Can they refuse to sell to you?
  Who taught you few not to trust anyone?  That sounds like professional  cult indoctrination to me. You guys even use the same vocabulary...sheeple, kool aid, lollipops. Where does that originate?
   

[Ross]

So, Mr. durbin are you saying you are not Konnected?

[Patriot]

Uh, since we don't know... ad infinitum.

If you say so.

You guys even use the same vocabulary...sheeple, kool aid, lollipops. Where does that originate?

Actually, the vocabulary finds roots in several places.  Vermont, Delaware, Northern California, Massachusetts, Leningrad & Santiago de León de Caracas.... oh, and Saturday Night Live.