Pucker Up, Buttercup

[kshillbillys]

To all you liberal democrats, this is to be my last post. I am so damn sick of you that you all can line up and kiss the biggest part of my ass. I cannot see how some people can be so damn ignorant. This includes people on the east coast, people on the west coast and some a little closer, like Moline...every damn thing has to be contradicted, twisted and try to be made into that the original post was a lie, it never happened. If it wasn't for that big eared nigger in the white house telling you Democrats that you need healthcare, that we need to bailout banks, car companies, etc. and we need to send 500 million dollars to Pakistan, all on the taxpayer's dime. Don't get me wrong, you will twist it around that this shit never happened. There's only a few things that ever DID happen, ya know like John Kerry "I voted for the war before I voted against it"; Bill Clinton who was impeached unlike Richard Nixon who left office before he was impeached; Presidential candidate John Edwards, we all know he didn't father that child; Al Gore, who invented the internet, flying around in his jet, riding in his limousine, screaming about global warming and that the election was stolen, and now we find out that he's been trying to rape massage therapists and is facing a divorce. But as I say again, every damn thing will be twisted around, that none of this ever happened or ever will happen. The Bible was written by man not God; shouldn't say In God We Trust on the money; let's take God from the Pledge of Allegiance; that the Boy Scouts is a branch of Hitler youth; it's OK to intimidate voters at a polling place with a nightstick, but it's not OK to carry a damn gun at a Tea Party rally (guess there's no such as concealed carry then)..why do we need guns? We need guns because obviously the law enforcement isn't going to be there to protect us 24 hours a day from people who want to kill us and our kids. Yes this is a rant and rave, but like I said, I'm done with this damn Elk County Forum. I'm done with ya Diane, Anmar, Tdub, Sixdogs. Now I will delete my account so Teresa doesn't have to.

P.S. Don't forget to pucker up.

MR. KSHillbillys, signing off

[Diane Amberg]

Sorry pal. I'm not a Democrat. Ya can sling it and not take it huh, that's a shame.Take a vacation you'll feel better. Wow, what a bunch of venom. Most of that was never said by anyone on here. Whew. I'm sorry you allow yourself to be suckered into believing every bad thing that comes down the pike, but so be it.

[Varmit]

Diane, I know KSH and he is not a racist, he's a good man that I would be proud to call friend.  Yes, he can sling it and yes he can take it.  Unlike some that will dish it out then when some call them out on it they run crying "oh poor me.  Nobody on here likes me oh boo-hoo" sound familiar?  What he said was pretty much right on the money.

[Diane Amberg]

Nope, he's not on my money at least.  I AM NOT a Democrat and he can't say that I am. For the five hundredth time, I'm registered Independent, and tend to vote a mixed ballot. To my knowledge nobody on here has ever slammed the boy scouts, our currency,  or the pledge, so yes I'm going to say he's wrong. I never said people shouldn't carry guns at a rally,I know why they did .They were demonstrating their gun rights.  I said that the BP had batons. BP having guns never came up. But if people are going to start rallying to carry weapons openly then it will suddenly be ALL people, not just the people of your choice. You yourself said that even felons, after they have done their time should be allowed to have guns.  If you check you'll see my personal complaints have been about nasty comments made directly at me and information at was attributed to me that I never said at all. You folks keep saying I am one of those anti gun people. I said from the start that I'M NOT. Gun control doesn't work and never will but nobody was come up with a solution to the problem. There are places in the cities where everybody carries and everybody knows it. Shootings still happen and I wish it always was the bad guy who get shot but it isn't. It tends to be innocent people who rarely had anything to do with the problem. But that's a whole other subject and I know you could care less about "them." I'm glad you don't think KS is racist, by that tirade last night he sure sounded like it. I'll withdraw my comment if you are sure. I'm not sure what the John Edwards comment was about. He supposedly acknowledged the child was his. Maybe we're all overdosing on too much trash talk on TV and everywhere else. I'm really sorry that the PB incident in Philly got to be so important and was remade into something bigger than it was. Somebody or some group must be up to something but I still  haven't figured out what. As far as the AL Gore comment, I explained that long ago. All one has to do is look it up and see that he indeed did have a big part in making the internet available to the general public. I don't know why that is so hard to believe.  As far as the rest, I'll write that off as a temper tantrum. It had nothing to do with anyone on here. I know he has the right to talk like that but so do the rest of us. I hope my sassy comment about the hairdresser didn't cause this. He started it! What a grouch!

[larryJ]

kshillbillys--------it is a sad thing when one of the forum members decides to hang it up because they don't agree with someone else or feel that "it's difficult to soar with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys".  This forum, as well as any other forum, is open to all to express their views and opinions whether they are an "eagle" or a "turkey".  This is a privilege that all of us have.  Many times I don't agree with the "turkeys" and feel like an "eagle", and other times I have expressed an opinion and been shown that I can be the "turkey" when I thought I was the "eagle."

As stated many times on this forum, if you don't like what you see, go read another thread.  Lately, I have not been overly impressed with the Politics section and just look to see what is being discussed without actually reading the thread.  There are many other places to go on this forum that I really enjoy and those topics help make my day.  

I don't know anyone on this forum except for relatives.  The only tie I have with this forum is that my family came from Elk County and I am proud of that fact and interested in what is happening there as well as what has happened there in the past.  In the recent past I have lost the last cousin I had in Howard and that is sad.  Because of my health issues, it is a sure bet I may never see Elk County again personally, but I can see it through your eyes and others on this forum.  

I am sure you have deleted your account by now and may never see this letter, but maybe others who do know you will pass it on.  

Larryj

[Teresa]

Hmmmmm... ooooo-kayyyyy??
Big breath here.................................................................
I can already tell that this is going to be a long diatribe on my part.. I will probably get way to long and windy..but I have some things to say that maybe have needed to be said for awhile.
First off.. Robert~~!.. Man buddy~~ you kinda loaded the auto AK and just held the trigger down didn't ya.. LOL  
I know kshillbillys and they both are good people. Do anything in the world for you if you need it.. ( and yeah... even if I was a liberal and stranded on the road.. they would stop and help me.)   and he would bust his hump to help anyone in here too..even though he is fed up with the attitudes and mindsets.

Now! My decision. Robert has asked me to delete his account.. I will abide by that.IF he still wants it. .. but do I delete these postings?? or leave them here.....( They aren't pretty..   ) Then again I don't take any of the amendments lightly.. so to allow 1st amendment freedom is something that I have always honored in each and every one of you here in this forum section.  Many times I agree and many times I do not agree.. That is my right to do so.. it is also my right to comment on that or remain silent. Same as it is for you all. I have said many many times I despise censorship among adults..so I imagine I will leave them as they are.  

I can not speak for Robert..or crawl into his mind ..so I won't try.
I can only try to grab his energy of thinking remotely from my armchair. ( this is all anyone can do with anything that is written on the internet. )

I can speak for myself though.. and I understand his frustration and his decision to just say to hell with it and back out. I have been there soooo many many times..
I also see on here that "everything" it seems that is brought up is somehow contradicted in one way or another ..almost as if to pick a fight. No matter what is said, there are those that just can't say.. "you know? I understand and agree with that ..and even add something to it that is at least somewhere on the side of the person who is posting the initial thread.. But in this forum there is little of that. No camaraderie of anyone with the attitude that yeah.. we are in a world of hurt here and we all need to stand together and at least try to see what is going on and gather together. Never an " I agree.. only the "well.. he said and disagreed with me so I'm going to say and disagree with him."
I'm tired of it myself. In other forums.. it seems that at least most of the people enjoy actually talking and sharing and even getting down with some pretty heavy political views without nitpicking someone to death all of the time. No matter what is said..and in the manner it is said.. it is twisted and turned and there are times that I KNOW the person who is jabbing and poking actually agrees with  the subject ..but would prefer to stir the pot and twist it around making it a sandbox fight all of the time, and making it sound like to everyone else that they do not agree and will not agree and is NEVER going to agree..
Sometimes that is the case. I know it is with me. I will step out here and say that once in while there is very very very slim times that even I will see something that Anmar or Jerry say that is "somewhat a little teeny bit "with what I "might".."possibly" agree with.. hahahahaha   ***sorry guys***
Now understand that this occasion is on the Not Too Often list.. .. but sometimes.
And you know...I probably should actually comment on that and say that I see their point and understand what they are saying ..but instead of that I stay silent...
I actually don't know think that is better ( we wouldn't have an active forum if everyone did that) ..but I don't also think that if you don't agree with someone 98% of the time.. that it might be nice to at least try to acknowledge the 2% that you do.. Might at least show people that we all CAN get a long a play together.

Take Varmits post in the religious section. I mean.. this was an honest question and concern of his stated and put out there in a very well directed way. I would have loved to get in there and talk religion ( even though my beliefs and spiritual areas vastly differ from his and maybe the norm.. but when it immediately became a Wilma and Diane cat spitting contest, I backed off.. I didn't want to take sides..nor after all of that did I feel like I wanted to share my personal thoughts with anyone when it was at that level.
I just wanted to voice that I really did understand parts of what he was saying and actually agreed to some of it.. but I also had my take on it.. He thinks he is right.. I think I am right.. but does it matter? I mean actually matter in the long run? Maybe.. maybe not.. but that is not my call. I am merely a human here in this world stumbling along and trying to  do the best I can.  
( I'm just warming up here so click out now or set back and read the whole bit )

I know Pam.. and I'm going to use her in this instance as I know she won't cry baby about it later..
Pam and I  ..believe it or not..  are a whole lot alike.  We just have a totally different way of voicing our beliefs and opinions.
Now you all think I am a hard nosed Conservative where black is black and white is white.
and my attitude is shoot them all and let God sort them out. (and I am that way in certain areas)
I also know some of you think she is a peace loving flower child type person.... and never agrees with anything that the hard nosed Conservatives think. (and she is that way in certain areas)
but sometimes just has a no nonsense argumentative combative way of pointing out that there are other ways to look at it..
But actually she and I have a combination of both. We just have different ways of expressing our opinions. Believe me.. if push comes to shove..and I had to pick a female person to call to stand with me side by side to help with a tactical crisis.. Pam would be top on my list. The woman understand spirit and nature... but knows how to protect what is dear to her in any manner it calls for with no hesitation.
So everyone can be misjudged and name called and picked and jabbed to death until they finally do just what kshillbilly did..and that was to just say what he thought in no uncertain terms. Doesn't make it right.. Doesn't make it wrong.. It just makes him human I guess.

One more thing.. example on posting in here. ..........
Diane.. your post in this thread .. Part of it was really good. You upheld what you said and why you thought the way you thought. That is what forum talk is about..
Then you have to add the kindergarten stuff..

He started it! What a grouch!

in my opinion it is throwing fuel on the fire...

Sorry pal. I'm not a Democrat. Ya can sling it and not take it huh, that's a shame.Take a vacation you'll feel better. Wow, what a bunch of venom. Most of that was never said by anyone on here. Whew. I'm sorry you allow yourself to be suckered into believing every bad thing that comes down the pike, but so be it.

once again..What was all of that? Why did you think you needed to add gas to an already burning fire? while I'm on it.. let me ask you this?  Can you take it? I hear a lot of "poor me" coming from you lately when the heat gets a little to close to you.   I'm just saying....Think about it honestly.

Larry...I agree with you.  Your post was well thought out and had many good points about why the forum is important to many in and around the area. It is sad when it gets so bad that you finally have to leave to gain any sanity. I actually have had to do that. I backed off the politics thread cause I was at the place that kshillibilly is at several times. I know that Pam has been there.. and  I know that Varmit has been there.. good to take a breather..and then maybe come back later on after you get another mindset. You will still think everyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot..  .. but it is just easier to deal with them.  

I think that we all need to stop with the name calling and actually TRY to gather together on some issues. I don't know if that is possible. Maybe it isn't.. There isn't a lot of like minded people in here it seems in more than a few areas.. and maybe that is just the way it is, and nothing can be done..
I know I am no different than all of you in the hodge podge of areas.. but I for one hope that that wild redneck man who calls him kshillbilly will reconsider and stay on the forum.
I'll leave him as a member for a week.. if he still wants to leave I will honor his request..

I'm done yacking.. Don't know if it made a hill of beans difference..but hopefully we all can sit back and really take a look at the way we act.. and maybe change just a wee bit. Lets laugh more.. Lighten up just a tad. its not going to turn Liberals into Conservatives..but it will be a little easier to enjoy the company of both.
Thanks.........
Teresa

[Mom70x7]

whispering very quietly in my corner . . . I agree. 

[Roma Jean Turner]

Well stated Teresa. Sometimes a person just wants to say what they feel or share some info and leave it at that......not have to go to the mat.

[pamagain]

2 thumbs up!!!

[Anmar]

I hate when an ignorant person calls me ignorant (two bank bailouts by Obama?  are you kidding?), or when someone who is responsible for some of the most inflammatory posts on these forums complains about inflammatory posts.

I don't agree with the nitpicking complaints.  A lot of people post a lot of inaccurate statements here on these forums.  Correcting them and speaking the truth is the duty of everyone.  Some of us come here to learn things that are not normally reported in the media.  There is a lot of lying going on in the media on all sides, and its important to get the truth. 

For example, KS in his post, said that Obama is responsible for two bank bailouts.  This is not true.  Bush bailed out the banks and the auto industry, then Obama gave a smaller bailout.  Then he wants to talk about Gore's little massage girl problem.  The charges were dropped and the woman is now under investigation for filing a false report.  It's not his fault he doesn't know.  Maybe he doesn't have time to look em up.  He definitely has Internet access, so he can, but he doesn't.

Furthermore, and the bottom line really.  If you can't handle debate, if you can't abide by the forum rules, then you've made the correct decision to leave.