Time to change how we spell wurdz? From MSN

[Janet Harrington]

Time to change how we spell wurdz?
Group wants Americans to adopt phonetic spelling
The Associated Press


Updated: 10:34 a.m. CT July 5, 2006
WASHINGTON - When "say," "they" and "weigh" rhyme, but "bomb," "comb" and "tomb" don't, wuudn't it maek mor sens to spel wurdz the wae thae sound?

Those in favor of simplified spelling say children would learn faster and illiteracy rates would drop. Opponents say a new system would make spelling even more confusing.

Eether wae, the consept has yet to capcher th publix imajinaeshun.

It's been 100 years since Andrew Carnegie helped create the Simplified Spelling Board to promote a retooling of written English and President Theodore Roosevelt tried to force the government to use simplified spelling in its publications. But advocates aren't giving up.

They even picket the national spelling bee finals, held every year in Washington, costumed as bumble bees and hoisting signs that say "Enuf is enuf but enough is too much" or "I'm thru with through."

Thae sae th bee selebraets th ability of a fue stoodents to master a dificult sistem that stumps meny utherz hoo cuud do just as wel if speling were simpler.

"It's a very difficult thing to get something accepted like this," acknowledges Alan Mole, president of the American Literacy Council, which favors an end to "illogical spelling." The group says English has 42 sounds spelled in a bewildering 400 ways.

Americans doen't aulwaez go for whut's eezy — witnes th faeluer of th metric sistem to cach on. But propoenents of simpler speling noet that a smatering of aulterd spelingz hav maed th leep into evrydae ues.

Doughnut also is donut; colour, honour and labour long ago lost the British "u" and the similarly derived theatre and centre have been replaced by the easier-to-sound-out theater and center.

"The kinds of progress that we're seeing are that someone will spell night 'nite' and someone will spell through 'thru,"' Mole said. "We try to show where these spellings are used and to show dictionary makers that they are used so they will include them as alternate spellings."

Lurning English reqierz roet memory rather than lojic, he sed.

In languages with phonetically spelled words, like German or Spanish, children learn to spell in weeks instead of months or years as is sometimes the case with English, Mole said.


Simpler is harder?
But education professor Donald Bear said to simplify spelling would probably make it more difficult because words get meaning from their prefixes, suffixes and roots.

"Students come to understand how meaning is preserved in the way words are spelled," said Bear, director of the E.L. Cord Foundation Center for Learning and Literacy at the University of Nevada, Reno.

Th cuntry's larjest teecherz uennyon, wuns a suporter, aulso objects.

Michael Marks, a member of the National Education Association's executive committee, said learning would be disrupted if children had to switch to a different spelling system. "It may be more trouble than it's worth," said Marks, a debate and theater teacher at Hattiesburg High School in Mississippi.

E-mail and text messages are exerting a similar tug on the language, sharing some elements with the simplified spelling movement while differing in other ways. Electronic communications stress shortcuts like "u" more than phonetics. Simplified spelling is not always shorter than regular spelling — sistem instead of system, hoep instead of hope.

Carnegie tried to moov thingz along in 1906 when he helpt establish and fund th speling bord. He aulso uezd simplified speling in his correspondens, and askt enywun hoo reported to him to do the saem.

A filanthropist, he becaem pashunet about th ishoo after speeking with Melvil Dewey, a speling reform activist and Dewey Desimal sistem inventor hoo simplified his furst naem bi droping "le" frum Melville.

Roosevelt tried to get the government to adopt simpler spellings for 300 words but Congress blocked him. He used simple spellings in all White House memos, pressing forward his effort to "make our spelling a little less foolish and fantastic."

Newspaper's 40-year experiment
The Chicago Tribune aulso got into th act, uezing simpler spelingz in th nuezpaeper for about 40 years, ending in 1975. Plae-riet George Bernard Shaw, hoo roet moest of his mateerial in shorthand, left muny in his wil for th development of a nue English alfabet.

Carnegie, Dewey, Roosevelt and Shaw's work followed attempts by Benjamin Franklin, Daniel Webster and Mark Twain to advance simpler spelling. Twain lobbied The Associated Press at its 1906 annual meeting to "adopt and use our simplified forms and spread them to the ends of the earth." AP declined.

But for aul th hi-proefiel and skolarly eforts, the iedeea of funy-luuking but simpler spelingz didn't captivaet the masez then — or now.

"I think that the average person simply did not see this as a needed change or a necessary change or something that was ... going to change their lives for the better," said Marilyn Cocchiola Holt, manager of the Pennsylvania department of the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh.

Carnegie, hoo embraest teknolojy, died in in 1919, wel befor sel foenz went maenstreem. Had he livd, he probably wuud hav bin pleezd to no that milyonz of peepl send text and instant mesejez evry dae uezing thair oen formz of simplified speling: "Hav a gr8 day!"

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"I think that the average person simply did not see this as a needed change or a necessary change or something that was ... going to change their lives for the better," said Marilyn Cocchiola Holt, manager of the Pennsylvania department of the Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh.

I agree. 

Spelling will adapt and change, just not as fast as some of the other people quoted in the article want it to change.

Some of those paragraphs were too hard for me to read! 

[Janet Harrington]

The way to read them was very fast, just pronouncing what was there instead of trying to figure what was written.  I didn't have any problem, but I am against changing the way that we do things.  Just because another country does it that way, does not mean we have to.  Just because all your friends were going to jump off a cliff doesn't mean that you have to.  ha ha

[Teresa]

Just because all your friends were going to jump off a cliff doesn't mean that you have to.  ha ha

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Lord help me.. If I ever hear that statement again it will be too soon..
And I actually think I said it to my kids..
Wonder if they hated it as much as when my mother used to say it to me?

[Jody]

my grandfather was ahead of his  time! {james crismas]     HE CHANGED OUR NAME FROM CHRISTMAS TO CRISMAS  HIS MOTHER WROTE HIM ANASKED HIM IF HE  HAD FORGOTTEN  HOW TO SPELL HIS NAME.  I  GUESS HE THOUGHT IF THE LETTERS ARE SILENT YOU DONOT NEED THEM!           

[Joanna]

   I think for that to work, you'd have to have a whole generation of folks that learned to spell both ways.  Think of the teacher's nightmare!  I still remember arguing with my teacher that there was no reason to put that extra 'e' in the word money.  A teacher would never win with a whole classroom arguing about how to spell things they each pronounce differently!

wash & warsh, crick & creek, sheep & range maggot (Just kidding!)

   I suppose it wouldn't be any harder than learning a whole new language; but the only foreign words I've ever bothered to learn are the ones that I have to use to order my favorite mexican or chinese food!
   I imagine it will happen anyway.  The short cuts used for text messages and license plates are sometimes a puzzle, but the ones used on emails and chat rooms are mostly pretty easy to figure out and adopt.  It will probably creep up on us all, whether we like it or not.  I have used "thru" and "donut" for years, and I'm sure there are dozens of other words I use like that without even considering the spelling.  Thank goodness I don't get graded on it anymore!

[Wilma]

I shorten words, too, but my spell check catches me everytime.  Not that I change it, but I am made aware of it.