John Holdren (aka Dr. Josef Mengele) Obama's Science Czar

[Warph]

Forget the three clownish Communist Czars, Van Jones, Mark Lloyd and Carol Browner that Obama has appointed.

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, is yet another window into the Obama mindset.  Holdren is a truly dark visionary.  Holdren obsesses about population control, surrendering national sovereignty, forced sterilization of women and forced abortions (think China).

Holdren is a true progressive eugenicist.  This guy approaches Dr. Josef Mengele status.  His positions and theories would have been right at home in Berlin circa 1930.  So far he has been flying under the radar screen because Van Jones has been hogging the spotlight.  This is one scary dude!


Meet John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar:  http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=34198

[pamsback]

Forced sterilization is not an Obama crew idea, the first time it was brought up in the US was in the 1840's by a guy in Texas as a way to prevent "defective" people from breedin, and it was used in Canada and the US to try to control the population of the indigenous people. The Nazis took it to a new level but they got the idea from us........there are a LOT of sad chapters in the history of this country and this country AIN'T the innocent angel it presents itself to be. A LOT of the things we bitch about other countries for doin is basically the pot callin the kettle black.

A poster from a 1921 eugenics conference displays which U.S. states had by then implemented sterilization legislation.The United States was the first country to concertedly undertake compulsory sterilization programs for the purpose of eugenics. The heads of the program were avid believers in eugenics and frequently argued for their program. They were devastated when it was shut down due to ethical problems. The principal targets of the American program were the mentally retarded and the mentally ill, but also targeted under many state laws were the deaf, the blind, people with epilepsy, and the physically deformed. Native Americans, as well as African-American women, were sterilized against their will in many states, often without their knowledge, while they were in a hospital for other reasons (e.g. childbirth). Some sterilizations also took place in prisons and other penal institutions, targeting criminality, but they were in the relative minority. In the end, over 65,000 individuals were sterilized in 33 states under state compulsory sterilization programs in the United States.

The first state to introduce a compulsory sterilization bill was Michigan, in 1897 but the proposed law failed to garner enough votes by legislators to be adopted. Eight years later Pennsylvania's state legislators passed a sterilization bill that was vetoed by the governor. Indiana became the first state to enact sterilization legislation in 1907, followed closely by Washington and California in 1909. Sterilization rates across the country were relatively low (California being the sole exception) until the 1927 Supreme Court case Buck v. Bell which legitimized the forced sterilization of patients at a Virginia home for the mentally retarded. The number of sterilizations performed per year increased until another Supreme Court case, Skinner v. Oklahoma, 1942, complicated the legal situation by ruling against sterilization of criminals if the equal protection clause of the constitution was violated. That is, if sterilization was to be performed, then it could not exempt white-collar criminals.

Most sterilization laws could be divided into three main categories of motivations: eugenic (concerned with heredity), therapeutic (part of an even-then obscure medical theory that sterilization would lead to vitality), or punitive (as a punishment for criminals), though of course these motivations could be combined in practice and theory (sterilization of criminals could be both punitive and eugenic, for example). Buck v. Bell asserted only that eugenic sterilization was constitutional, whereas Skinner v. Oklahoma ruled specifically against punitive sterilization. Most operations only worked to prevent reproduction (such as severing the vas deferens in males), though some states (Oregon and North Dakota in particular) had laws which called for the use of castration. In general, most sterilizations were performed under eugenic statutes, in state-run psychiatric hospitals and homes for the mentally disabled. There was never a federal sterilization statute, though eugenicist Harry H. Laughlin, whose state-level "Model Eugenical Sterilization Law" was the basis of the statute affirmed in Buck v. Bell, proposed the structure of one in 1922.

After World War II, public opinion towards eugenics and sterilization programs became more negative in the light of the connection with the genocidal policies of Nazi Germany, though a significant number of sterilizations continued in a few states until the early 1960s. The Oregon Board of Eugenics, later renamed the Board of Social Protection, existed until 1983, with the last forcible sterilization occurring in 1981. Other forcible sterilizations in Oregon, operating outside of Eugenics law, still continue to this date[citation needed]. The U.S. commonwealth Puerto Rico had a sterilization program as well. Some states continued to have sterilization laws on the books for much longer after that, though they were rarely if ever used. California sterilized more than any other state by a wide margin, and was responsible for over a third of all sterilization operations. Information about the California sterilization program was produced into book form and widely disseminated by eugenicists E.S. Gosney and Paul B. Popenoe, which was said by the government of Adolf Hitler to be of key importance in proving that large-scale compulsory sterilization programs were feasible. In recent years, the governors of many states have made public apologies for their past programs beginning with Virginia and followed by Oregon and California. None have offered to compensate those sterilized, however, citing that few are likely still living (and would of course have no affected offspring) and that inadequate records remain by which to verify them. At least one compensation case, Poe v. Lynchburg Training School & Hospital (1981), was filed in the courts on the grounds that the sterilization law was unconstitutional. It was rejected because the law was no longer in effect at the time of the filing. However, the petitioners were granted some compensation as the stipulations of the law itself, which required informing the patients about their operations, had not been carried out in many cases.

The 27 states where sterilization laws remained on the books (though not all were still in use) in 1956 were: Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah,Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin


In 1936 Nazi propaganda defended Germany's forced sterilization program by citing the United States as an ally in the eugenic movement, and its laws as proof of its status as same. World War II, and the atrocities committed by the Nazi government, would rapidly change U.S. attitudes towards eugenics.

[Varmit]

I don't care who started it, it is wrong.  John Holdren, like Van Jones, needs to be removed from his position in our government.  So does obama for that matter. 

Pam, just curious, where did you get that article you posted?

[pamsback]

never said it was right, was just postin a little perspective. I got it at about.com

[pamsback]

The history of eugenics in America is no longer a well kept secret. We ALL have black marks on our countries histories for allowing such things to happen.

[Varmit]

You might have the black mark, I wasn't born yet

[pamsback]

smart ass   I was only 10 or 15 in the 1840s  

[Varmit]

Seriously, Warph, excellent post, keep it up.