Doctors Exposed To Fines Under Obamacare

[Teresa]

Dr. David Janda explains rationing and why Dr. Rob Steele must defeat Dingell


A doctor's first  fine will be $100,000 and his second offense is prison. I can't imagine staying in the medical profession.


Anyone close to  being a senior, or has senior parents or grandparents will want to be aware of  this PROFOUND effect on seniors.

[Warph]

In order to achieve total control of our health care, Obumacare must control the actions of our doctors.  Last month, the White House health care clowns wrote an article that was published in "Annals of Internal Medicine"... the medical publication for internal medicine physicians.  Since most internal medicine doctors see through the lies of Obumacare and see its harmful effects on their patients, most, if not all, do not support the new law.  The Annals article was both a propaganda and threatening piece telling physicians that they will need to fall in to rank, become hospital employees, and relinquish many of their roles to less educated workers.  They were told that resisting would be "unwise and futile."  Why are these clowns so worried about the internal medicine doctors?  Because these physicians have the ability to drop out of the system, take cash payments for their services, and act outside the politically based protocols of Obumacare.  In essence, internal medicine doctors acting independently, in the best interest of patients, interferes with total government control.  

Experienced physicians are fighting this, so the HHS clowns have now set their eyes on our youth.  Witchy woman ex-gov of KS, Kathleen Sebelius... who is a lawyer   and not a physician.... steps into the picture.  One of her major roles will be to define all protocols physicians must follow in caring for patients.  She will also set up huge penalties for deviating from those protocols and since this will take some time, she apparently has taken on a few other roles.  One is to threaten any industry that resists or tells the truth about the damages we are about to see under Obumacare.  Another role is the indoctrination of medical students.... if there are any left after Obumacare takes effect!  

Patients will not have a choice on which doctor they see.  Physician quality, bedside manner, and reputation based on excellent care won't matter.  Their quality will be based on their ability to stick to protocols set up by the HHS.  They will have to follow protocols set up on political grounds instead of best clinical practice set forth by medical experts.  They may find the need at times to deviate from the protocols for the betterment of their patient's lives.  Such deviation will lead to those huge penalties from the HHS.  They no longer will follow the Hippocratic Oath and care about the sanctity of the doctor-patient relationship.  "Do no harm" will be less important than "do not deviate from the protocol."  Sounds like Hitler's Gestapo at work!

[Teresa]

[twirldoggy]

This is the reason they want computerized records.  Easier to tell if following a protocol.

[Diane Amberg]

Warph, you volunteer in a hospital, you know how much rationing is already done and has been for some time. Remember the DRGs? Suddenly women were set home after child birth the same day if there were no apparent complications. Hospital stays were cut 'way back and that was years ago. Hospital infection rates are soaring! Watchdog groups are really barking. Many insurances won't pay for a readmittance for the same problem within a certain number of days because they figure the hospital screwed up, but you will still get the hospital's bill .(They will never admit an error so get ready to sue.) Your insurance has a formulary for which drugs they will cover and they will demand you try a different tier drug despite your doc's wishes if you need something new.The doctor may have to give written approval and demand they cover a certain drug, especially if it is not a generic. Even with a fracture, the orthopod will check which insurance you have before they set you up with a "cast". It may not even be a cast any longer and is more likely going to be a support with velcro straps. Even pain meds are restricted with some plans. Just try to get proper narcotic pain control for some seniors. Narcotics are restricted because the person "might fall".
 It doesn't have to come, it's already here!The insurance companies have the reins! I just had my last pelvic exam and pap smear for two and three years because I'm on Medicare now and it has to be no less than 24 months or I have to pay. I won't be able to have another pap either, because I got one last year and I won't go back until 2012.

[Warph]

Remember the old saying about statistics and lies, Diane?  " There are lies, there are outrageous lies, and there are statistics." Once our health care system is brought under the bobble-headed statisticians of the Federal Government and the Government pays for all of our health care, we will be forced to ration care based on... get this... political influence, not sound medical science.  I think we all agree that unnecessary care must be brought under control.  Once the Government is involved, they will make all decisions for us....like it or not!  Maybe we won't ration care based on random numbers calculating peoples worth to society.  Maybe we won't ration care blindly away from the very young and the elderly.  Maybe it is just a coincidence that the two doctors Ezekial Emanuel who is an advisor on the White House health care team and Donald Berwick is in charge of Medicare.....both are part of the current health care legislative team for Obumacare.   Remember Berwick, who said a while back that, "we need to plan our healthcare system along the lines of the UK."  Look at the G-D awful mess the UK has going for them with healthcare.  Nope... no coincidence.  These two clowns both support rationing care based on your WORTH TO SOCIETY and use words such as "blindly ration care."  Under their system, a patient and his grandson stand no chance.  Rationing will start at the edges of life and for those who are disabled from medial illnesses.  What a crock!

The Republicans  need to Repeal the health care law and they need to Replace it with a system that is more consumer friendly... which puts the patient in charge, and reduces costs.... none of which exist in Obumacare.  We need a system where medical experts make recommendations based on sound medical science.  Simple common sense!

Remember, Obuma campaigned on health care reform.  He was elected in part because the democrats, independents and the uninformed believed his promises to drive down costs, to preserve what was good with our system, and to allow people to keep the plans and doctors if they liked.  None of these are true under Obumacare.  It is all a lie!  All Obumacare is... is a new tax law... a destruction of the private system.... and a guarantee for socialized medicine in a few years.  Remember that!  What it does is guarantee that doctors will have to follow protocols set forth by government appointed bobble-headed statisticians.  Any deviation from these protocols, even for the betterment of their patients, will result in financial penalties and other punishments.... and believe me... they wont be small.  Watch the video that Teresa has provided on this thread.  You can pretend it's false if you want, but I bet if you talk to any physican groups about what is said in the video, you'll change your mind quickly.

Here is something that most people... and business consumers alike... don't realize is, as of next year, any change in a companies health plan will remove its "grandfathered" status.  I did not know this: most companies change their health plan yearly.  The first time this happens....likely next year, 2011 for those of you with employer sponsored health insurance....  the loss of the grandfathered status will shunt everyone into a Government controlled insurance plan.  Wheeeee!  But there is this...there is also evidence that most companies will drop insurance coverage for employees under Obumacare.... which has been in the news lately.... McDonalds being one.  What does this mean to YOU, the consumer?  Will guess what, Mr. Gump... You will be forced to buy a government plan on your own and, therefore, it will cost you even more... alot more!

I see what you're saying, Diane.  All healthcare today is scared about what might come with Obumacare.  Heck... you need to ask some of the doctors you come in contact about how bad they think Obumacare is.  And another thing, the insurance companies can be handled by the consumers... the doctors... the voters... and (help me) the honest politican, which hopefully there are a few out there.  But I know one thing for sure, if the Democrats retain control of the House of Representatives and the Senate, we are doomed to socialized medicine.  We will see a huge rise in health care costs and loss  of patient autonomy.  How anyone can truefully say that Obumacare is the best way to go, has to be losing most of their marbles.  Look, I am willing to give the Republicans a shot as the alternative... because they are the only hope against Obumacare.  But to go with the democrats, Pelosi, Reid, and the bobble-headed far-left liberals on Obumacare is the certain death of the best health care system in the world!

[Diane Amberg]

Actually, I buy my supplemental insurance ( Blue Cross) through New Castle County. I go turn in my paperwork tomorrow for a plan change for next year which will save me some money over last years plan. Not sure how they did it, but they negotiated a change to a different prescription program with no cap, a much larger formulary and lower copays.

[srkruzich]

Actually, I buy my supplemental insurance ( Blue Cross) through New Castle County. I go turn in my paperwork tomorrow for a plan change for next year which will save me some money over last years plan. Not sure how they did it, but they negotiated a change to a different prescription program with no cap, a much larger formulary and lower copays.

Enjoy it while you can, you can bet if they don't defund obamacare and repeal it you will lose that supplimental.  Medicare has started refusing to fill prescriptions if there is a over the counter drug.  Thats the start of it. Thank God i have a doctor that told them the OTC will not work on me so i need the med that i get.

Took some fighting to get it though.

[jprxmkt]

Actually, I buy my supplemental insurance ( Blue Cross) through New Castle County. I go turn in my paperwork tomorrow for a plan change for next year which will save me some money over last years plan. Not sure how they did it, but they negotiated a change to a different prescription program with no cap, a much larger formulary and lower copays.

More than likely forced mail order and/or lower reimbursment to the pharmacy.

[Diane Amberg]

 I just came back from the meeting. Mail order is optional, but it's what I do now and I like it. 90 days. Reminders, automatic refills for maintaince drugs if I want to do it and no more cap on amounts. I usually just jump on line. It's going to make me lazy. So far NCC has no plan to stop offering the supplemental insurance but I agree,I'll bet they will, just not next year.The open enrollment and plan change time is right now.