In case anyone is interested I just listed Chub Anderson's personal saddle on ebay for sale which we purchased from him "Jack Evert" on Sept 15, 2005 exactly 8 months before he was arrested in Montana. It is very well documented including a purchase reciept signed by 'Jack Evert'. If interested go to http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200662469978 or search ebay.com for item # 200662469978