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#1
Quote from: Wilma on November 07, 2009, 06:38:51 PM
Yes, that is what is happening now.  I was talking about how many years students from Howard have been bussed, not just the years each student is bussed.  The first students to be bussed are almost old enough to be grandparents now and if it continues like this, their grandchildren will be bussed as they were.  I just feel that the people in Howard have had their children bussed to another town while the people in Moline and Severy have not.  Isn't it time to change this?  A centralized grade school would be the least amount of bussing.  Granted the Moline and Severy children would still be bussed, but wouldn't it be better for them to be bussed to Howard than some Moline children to Severy and some Severy children to Moline?
I moved to Moline in the fall of 1978, my senior year. Had to ride the bus to Howard everyday.
I don't know if this is correct or not but, haven't Moline 7th though 12th grade kids been bused to Howard for as long as Howard kids have been bused to Moline?
#2
Quote from: Wilma on November 07, 2009, 01:50:01 PM
Where did I post that we spend equal time on the bus.  And yes, Howard kids have been doing since the very early 70's what the Moline and Severy kids would be asked to do if the grade school were located in Howard.  What about that do you not understand?

Y'all have about got me convinced that I don't know what I'm talking about.
A Moline child stays in Moline for grades kindergarten through 6th grade(7 years) then he buses to Howard for grades 7 though 12(6 years).
A Howard child buses to Moline or Severy for grades kindergarten though 6th grade(7 years) then stays in Howard for grades 7 though 12(6 years).

Howard kids bus for 7 years
Moline kids bus for 6 years

Put the grade school in Howard
Howard kids stay in Howard for 13 years
Moline kids bus for 13 years
#3
Quote from: Wilma on November 07, 2009, 08:12:08 AM
Howard grade school kids have been riding a school bus to Severy or Moline since the very early 70's.  Severy and Moline high school kids have been riding the bus (if they don't get to drive a car) to Howard for the same length of time.  I thought it was about time that someone brought up that what Severy and Moline kids might be asked to do is only what Howard kids have been doing for so long.  Whose turn do you think it is now?   
huh? Did you not just post we each spend equal time on bus? If we move the grade school to Howard how much time will the Howard kids spend on the bus compared with everybody else?
#4
Howard kids have been taking the same bus ride I am asking your kid to ride to school for 37 years.  I fail to see your point. What burden?  If it is a burden we are bearing it currently.

Moilne and Severy kids have done the same for 37 years. With a school in Howard the Howard kids will no longer have that long bus ride.

The potential to have an accident on a school bus in greater with every mile they are on it.                                                                                So why should my kids have to take all the risk?

Your kid at the 12 miles away could possibly be at school in 25-30 minutes.
I don't think the buses go any farther east then our house. If she picks up very many kids after mine, she will never make it to Howard in less than an hour.
#5
The Coffee Shop / Re: School Changes
November 07, 2009, 07:13:14 AM
No I did not have all the information before I voted. I was under the impression that the state and federal money was not guaranteed. A $3,025,500 bond would have changed my vote.

Relocating bus parking and utilities was what was mention not bus barn. My mistake.
#6
The Coffee Shop / Re: School Changes
November 07, 2009, 12:10:29 AM

[/quote]What are you talking about moving the bus barn?  We will still save 500k closing the two grade schools tomorrow.  The yearly payment of the bond can't be determined until the bond is passes.  The bond rate is not set until you actually sell the bonds.  The thing you just voted down was exactly what you just described.  The construction of the building was a maximum of 5.55million dollars.  Our current state waiting allows for the state to pay for 29-35% of capital improvements such as school construction.  Our local bond total would have been $3,385,50.  Deduct from that the $360,000 for the hardening of the Fema room.  That would be a total of $3,025,500.


What did you think you were voting on?
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My ballot said a 5.55 million dollar bond. What did yours say?
#7
The busing issue was for angie but, since you asked
[/quote] Have you heard one word about the safety of my children driving on the highways everyday?  Why is driving north any different than driving south?  How is it better one way than the other?
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I never said anything about the safety of my children while on the bus. As a matter of fact I don't recall even hearing about anybody being injured on one of our buses.
If they move the grade school to Howard everybody but the Howard kids will spend hours on the bus. My high school daughter gets on the bus at 6:35 and gets back home at 5. Let call that 2 hours a day though its closer to 3. My granddaughter will start school soon and if she has to go to Howard kindergarten though 12th grade she will spend 6.5 months on the bus. Why shouldn't Howard kids share that burden?


[/quote]   Do you plan on your kids stopping their education at 6th grade?  If not to stay in this school system they will have to ride a bus to school.  With or without a different facility that will not change.
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They will have to ride the bus but, 6 miles to Moline doesn't take as long as the 12 miles to Howard.
#8
The Coffee Shop / Re: School Changes
November 06, 2009, 07:08:33 AM
angtown3 and ADP
there have been quite a few options posted in the 2 threads concerning this issue. They won't work, not feasible?
Almost two thirds of the voters say the bond issue won't work, is not feasible.

Lets find out why the bond didn't pass and revise it and try again.
I am a stick in the mud conservative and I don't like change. Some of my problems with the bond are
Why move the bus barn?
We will save 500k a year by closing 2 schools. How much of the 500k will go to repaying the bond?
Get the cost down to 2.5 or 3 million and I'd vote yes.

#9
Quote from: angtown3 on November 06, 2009, 06:12:21 AM
Varmit, I didn't vote for Obama and I voted for the bond to pass.  And your check goes to Elk county yes, but look at you tax statement, where does your school money go?  I think that living in Grenola your school taxes go to Cowley county.  Not sure, but would check on that. 

But what is your suggestion to do with the school?  Put yourself in the place of me who has 3 young girls in this school system.  What would you have done then?  I still say that we need to try the vote again!!  There is no way you, Varmit would bus your children an hour to school, if you lived in Howard.  I won't. So I am going to get as much information as I can by attending the School Board meeting Monday night.  I have attended several, not all, but do care what happens.  As I stated before in earlier thread, I feel that I as a parent have failed my children.  I have one in preschool, one in 1st grade and one in 6th.  So, it really does matter what happens to the school for me and my family.  I feel like I have not done everything that is possible to insure a proper education for my children.  And my children are very bright girls, with bright futures ahead of them.  I am not going to hold them down, because I can't afford it.  Money is a small price to pay, for the happiness of my childrens future!!!
If they move the school to Howard my kids will have to ride the bus for an hour. Should I have voted yes or no?
#10
Rez
That crack about Longton was "hitting below the belt".

I think its time for the Moderator to take action....and somebody get Rez some bupropion.
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