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#61
Politics / Re: SAD ISN'T IT ?
November 18, 2010, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: Patriot on November 18, 2010, 09:00:06 AM
Spoken in true liberal progressive form... Deflect and redirect.

No I am not deflecting nor redirecting.... if you want to cut that aid fine, I would be OK with it as long as the aid that I mentioned was cut.  It isn't deflecting, I accepted your suggestion.
#62
Politics / Re: Don't Touch My Junk..
November 17, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: kshillbillys on November 17, 2010, 08:27:19 PM
Patriot: I don't see where you were insulting to anyone but some people have to make it all about them, on any post. Keep up the good work.---Robert

P.S. Jerry: I didn't provide an argument to anything? Are you saying you like to be groped by the Canadian Mounties?  hmmm...interesting.--Mr. KsHillbilly

LOL Mounties don't grope.... you don't need to be searched to enter public buildings up to and including Parliament Hill.  A simple metal detector suffices.
#63
Politics / Re: SAD ISN'T IT ?
November 17, 2010, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Patriot on November 17, 2010, 09:20:43 AM
Or how about the 500+ million Obama & Hillary just promised the Palestinian Authority plus our continued funding of that terrorist organization started by the original 1970s terrorist airplane hijacker himself, Yassar Arafat.  And the US Congress can't figure out where to cut the budget???

Read this, then write your senator & congressman.  But put your coffee cup down first!  
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/1110/glick111610.php3

Yes, very sad.

If you are going to cut that foreign aid, then make sure to match the cut by eliminating foreign aid to Israel.  It supports just as much violence as the $500 million to the Palestinian Authority.
#64
Politics / Re: Don't Touch My Junk..
November 17, 2010, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: Teresa on November 17, 2010, 08:12:16 PM
Listen to this: "My freely chosen bedmates and doctors are the only ones allowed to see my naked body or touch my genitalia." For a sane person in a sane country that's the ultimate in "no shit, Sherlock" statement. But not where I live.

Not the United States of America. Not since 11 September 2001, when the government reacted to an attack on its citizens by lashing out against the very citizenry it claims to protect. No bureaucracy better embodies that reactionary principle than the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), whose contempt for American citizens has grown so great that they now require we submit to government agents either photographing our, to them, visibly naked bodies or groping us in molestation-style pat downs if we ever want to fly again.

I'm sick of the craven cliches TSA apologists have cited these past nine years:

"They protect us from terrorists."

No, they impose pointlessly superstitious security theater, trample Americans' constitutional rights and make foreigners feel sorry for us. TSA protected nobody with its infamous "bathroom bans" after last year's Christmas terror attempt; rules like "keep your lap empty and your hands visible at all times" only demonstrated the agency's willingness to treat ordinary citizens like serial killers in supermax prison.

"You gave up your rights when you bought an airline ticket."

I never gave up any rights. The government stole them while cowards egged them on.

Read the rest of this article...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/nov/17/tsa-patdowns-scanner

I agree to a point... I support some of the security measures for air travel, although not most but I realize that they can constitutionally regulate that travel.  I do not support many of the measures used especially the warrantless wiretaps, etc.  Those I find the most offensive.
#65
Quote from: Warph on November 17, 2010, 10:24:25 AM

Despite a devastating recession, the collective personal wealth of congressional members increased by more than 16 percent between 2008 and 2009, according to study released Wednesday by the Center for Responsive Politics.

In contrast, U.S. median household income dropped 3 percent to $50,221 in 2009, the second straight decline, according to the Census Dept.  In terms of millionaires, only about 1 percent of the overall population qualifies.

The Richest Members of Congress:  Recently, the Capitol Hill publication Roll Call analyzed the financial assets of U.S. lawmakers — annual disclosures they are required to make — to determine the members of the US Congress that have the highest approximate net worth.  Although these Congressional disclosures are not exact — they are displayed in a range of estimated value over broad categories.  http://www.cnbc.com/id/39287818/?The_Richest_Members_of_the_US_Congress_2010


Rest of Article at: http://www.cnbc.com/id/40233691

So let me get this straight... you support the campaigns of such people as Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina, who are unbelievably wealthy but those that are already elected cannot be wealthy?
#66
Politics / Re: Don't Touch My Junk..
November 17, 2010, 08:03:15 PM
Quote from: kshillbillys on November 17, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
Sodbuster: I'm assuming you're a Mister, not a Miss, so Mr. please leave your clothes on. No one wants to see that.

Teresa: When you go through the full body scan, make sure you get extra pictures to post on the forum.

Jerry: I'm sure you love getting groped by the Canadian Mounties, but seeings how you haven't been in America for a long time (quite frankly you haven't been gone long enough) we here in Elk County think we have been groped, beaten and bent over by the Government long enough. What do you think, eh hoser?

Mr. KsHillbilly

WTF ever... I have about as much use for your opinion as you do for mine, but you didn't actually provide an argument to anything.
#67
Quote from: Patriot on November 17, 2010, 06:33:05 PM

Remind me jerry.... didn't you move out of country?  Or was that just a pleasant daydream?

And that is relevant how?  I am still a citizen of the United States of America.  Teresa has never sent me a PM asking me to rescind my membership on this forum.
#68
Politics / Re: Don't Touch My Junk..
November 17, 2010, 05:56:33 PM
Quote from: Patriot on November 17, 2010, 04:43:41 PM
And then there's this....

Through the Transit Security Grant Program (TSGP), DHS has allocated $547 million to date to 60 of the Nation's mass transit and passenger rail systems in 25 states and the District of Columbia. As substantive lead for the program, TSA employs a risk-based prioritization in determining eligible passenger rail and transit agencies, funding allocations, and evaluations for award. This approach applies TSGP resources to generate the highest return on investment and, as a result, strengthen the security of the Nation's transit systems in the most effective and efficient manner.

From the TSA:  http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/mass_transit/sec_baseline.shtm

Like I said, "Coming soon to bus/train depot near you."  

What is it about closet and non-closet liberals that they jump to deny government overreach and violations of our constitutional protections. Distrust of government is one major basis of our founding.  Power corrupts, and our founders knew that all too well.

U.S Constitution

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Emphasis added for the constitutionally challenged.

Then don't fly... you have the right to walk across the country... you do not have the right to drive or fly or whatever else... they are privileges.  With those privileges come responsibilities.
#69
It is their right to assemble, including to unionize and choose to represent themselves.
#70
Quote from: Varmit on November 12, 2010, 01:32:51 PM
Its not about proving a persons worth.  It is about common decency.  People (and I use that word loosely) like the protesters and those that support them are nothing more than human boils.  They abuse the rights that REAL men fought for.  If they don't like the fact that America and her allies actually fight for freedom, then like I said, they should return to their own country.  And, sometimes violence is exactly what is called for.

As far as Right-wing terrorists...the only ones who thought of them that way are those on the left.  As for killiing those that disagree you, there have been far more vicitims of left wing groups than those on the right.  By the way, since you brought up the subject, can you name any right-wing terrorist groups??
I didn't name any right-wing group as a terrorist group, rather I referred to the likelihood of right-wing groups being referred to as potential terrorist threats.
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