I predict: Scott Brown 57% Martha Coakley 42% Joe Kennedy 1%
Obama and ObamaCare.... both dead as Ted Kennedy! All of you democrats take heed..... 2010 & 2012 will end the democratic party as you know for years to come. The far left will die a quick death. Jimmy Carter should feel pretty good by now knowing that there is a President worse than he. Obama is too stupid to try to move to the center and work with republicans.... his ego and narcissism wont let him. He's wounded and embarrassed. Look for more Chicago backroom politics to take place on his part.
Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong. ;)
Even if scott brown wins couldn't the dems. still pass healthcare with the reconciliation process?
Warph, I hope you are right. I think if Scott Brown wins the biggest result will be the number of Democrats in the Senate and House that will no longer support the OBAMACARE mess. Massachusetts electing a Republican to the Senate would make a lot of Democrats in the Senate and the House run for cover as the voters signal would be loud and clear, "VOTE THE DEMS OUT IN 2010".
I think there will be a swing in the Majority in both the House and Senate in 2010, the Democrats will get booted.
Quote from: Varmit on January 18, 2010, 09:22:07 PM
Even if scott brown wins couldn't the dems. still pass healthcare with the reconciliation process?
Ain't going to happen.... There is too much of a difference between the house bill and the senate bill. I don't see pelosi or reid wanting to reconcile the two bills. But another possibility would be for the Democratic caucus to try to move on the bill quickly, before a victorious Brown could be sworn into office... but I doubt ol' Harry can muster 60 votes for a sneaky move like that. Too many Democrats would fear public backlash. My guess is that health care reform dies.
Hope so!
Scott Brown has just been declared the winner. This is a very significant win for the Republicans. I think it is just the beginning of what is to come.
Heh.... Heh.... Heh.....!! :laugh:
Once again Warph you called it. I think we will see some really under handed tactics from the Senate regarding the Obamacare mess.
Thank God Scott Brown won!!! ;D
Quote from: frawin on January 19, 2010, 08:47:28 PM
Once again Warph you called it. I think we will see some realy under handed tactics from the Senate regarding the Obamacare mess.
Yeah, you are probably right, Frank.... I imagine the white house will be burning the midnight oil tonight. You can bet Obama won't give up healthcare w/o a fight.
Things are about to get better. I think I can get some sleep now. Goodnight.
This wouldn't have happened if Kennedy had given up the seat in time for the General Election. At that time there would have been another Democrat elected. All the more reason for the old dogs to quit hanging on until they die. All the more reason for term limits.
Quote from: greatguns on January 19, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Things are about to get better. I think I can get some sleep now. Goodnight.
I actually agree with you on that! I said last night on fb theres hope now in America.
;D ;D ;D Let's just hope that piece of eye candy has more abilities than just posing...Like actually making a difference with his vote... ;D ;D ;D
CAT, hopefully this is just the beginning of better things to come. I was very impressed with Scot Brown's style, and ability. I think this could send a signal to the Democrats that they could very well lose control of one or both Houses in the 2010 elections. I think the two main points that I saw the voters make was that they didn't like the Obama healthcare plan and that they did not want either party controlling all 3 houses. It should be an interesting election year.
I didn't know too much about Scott Brown, so I googled him. Glad I did, his picture in Cosmopolitan in 1982 caught my eye. LOL!!! He definately has my vote for whatever he does!!! LOL!!!
Just a little tidbit I found on Scott Brown. Yes, I am glad he won because he said that he would vote against obamacare, but that doesn't mean I trust him.
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Brown supported a tax-subsidized golf course over 9/11 rescue workers in 2001
Think Progress
January 19, 2010
State Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate special election on Tuesday, voted on Oct. 17, 2001 to deny financial aid to Red Cross rescue workers who had volunteered with 9/11 recovery efforts. As a state representative at the time, Brown was one out of only three legislators who had opposed the overwhelmingly bipartisan measure. As ThinkProgress reported on Saturday, at the same time Brown was voting against the 9/11 rescue workers bill, he sponsored House Bill 4423, a measure to provide a tax-subsidized bond to build a golf course in Newport, a town in his district. Brown, earlier this weekend, told ThinkProgress that he opposed the rescue worker money because of the state's fiscal condition and because he had his own "priorities." Given the revelation that Brown fought for a golf course over the rescue worker aid, ThinkProgress again approached Brown for comment today:
TP: Mr. Brown, in 2001 when you voted against financial aid for 9/11 rescue workers, you were pushing a bill for a tax subsidized golf course in your district. Can you explain that?
BROWN: I'm not sure what you're referring to. [...]
TP: Are you going to explain that vote?
BROWN: Number two, we were in a financial difficulty and we couldn't afford it unfortunately.
TP: But you could afford a tax-subsidized bond for a golf course?
BROWN: We had to obviously take care of the people of Massachusetts who needed to stay employed.
Watch it:
Brown's golf course bill passed on November 30, 2001, a few weeks after he voted to kill the 9/11 rescue worker financial aid. While the golf course construction certainly kept people employed, Brown's self-professed interest in protecting the American homeland doesn't extend to the rescue workers who rushed to the site of the twin towers after the attacks of 9/11.
That's happening to firefighters all over the country now. Fire houses are being closed and people are being let go. Might as well turn off the water while they're at it.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 24, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
That's happening to firefighters all over the country now. Fire houses are being closed and people are being let go. Might as well turn off the water while they're at it.
I don't understand what the big deal is. I've never lived in a area that had a firehouse. The closest thing to a firehouse was the volenteer and that was just a bunch of us folks from the town that went and made sure that folks were ok. Never got paid for it either. Shrug
As far as fire was concerend, if we could put it out we did. But most of the time the VFD just made sure it didn't move from the structure on fire and catch anything else on fire.
I'm talking about cities! Ya wanna burn down Chicago again? AZ just cut off all funding for certified classes for fire fighters. They will have to train their own with what they've got.That's fine for some things, but not all.
You ever actually rescue anybody? We do. Exterior attacks are great, but it's kinda nice to get the people out! Barns and such, I agree, why risk the firefighters? But when a barn full of race horses burns, it's awful .Ya ever hear a burning horse scream? Tears your heart out. Downstate here they get chicken house fires...sounds funny, but chicken fat burns weird and can get the fire fighters hurt. Trains? Ever see a BLEVE? Surround and drown sounds good, but they still have to know what they are doing. I was never paid either, but it's a bit more than just a bunch of people who happened to figure out how to turn the hose on. ;D
You are right on, Diane. Firemen are in danger every time they go out. Our two Grandsons are volunteer firemen plus all the rest of the crew here in Howard,. Every time the fire whistle blows, I get sick to my stomach.
I can't praise firemen enough!!!
There is a firebarn in Piedmont. And yes they are volunteers. I have seen them save more than one house from completely burning down and I can't imagine anyone being so ungrateful. I have never seen the volunteers just stand around and let it burn.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 25, 2010, 01:04:11 PM
I'm talking about cities! Ya wanna burn down Chicago again?
Nahh they should have done it before the last election! :P
QuoteAZ just cut off all funding for certified classes for fire fighters. They will have to train their own with what they've got.That's fine for some things, but not all.
You ever actually rescue anybody?
yes couple of times.
QuoteWe do. Exterior attacks are great, but it's kinda nice to get the people out! Barns and such, I agree, why risk the firefighters? But when a barn full of race horses burns, it's awful .Ya ever hear a burning horse scream? Tears your heart out.
Thats true. But i wouldn't risk human life to save them. If you can get them out without anyone getting hurt thats fine.
Quote from: greatguns on January 25, 2010, 04:54:25 PM
There is a firebarn in Piedmont. And yes they are volunteers. I have seen them save more than one house from completely burning down and I can't imagine anyone being so ungrateful. I have never seen the volunteers just stand around and let it burn.
Well just hang around long enough and you will. There is no house worth losing one person by trying to save it.
I can tell ya that there is a point where if the house is fully engulfed its better to let it burn and control the burn so it doesn't get away.
And just because you haven't seen it done doesn't mean it isn't done. I've seen many a house burn to the ground in volenteer departments because they either do not have a watersource or they aren't going to risk life in trying to put it out. Besides as old as these houses are in this area, if one catches fire, you probably got 12 minutes before its burned to the ground.
Well, no shit! I did not say or even imply that a house was worth someone's life. But to say that they stand around and just watch it burn isn't what they do. If this is place is so bad why don't you go back south?
Quote from: greatguns on January 25, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
Well, no shit! I did not say or even imply that a house was worth someone's life. But to say that they stand around and just watch it burn isn't what they do. If this is place is so bad why don't you go back south?
I never said that. Why would i go back south? If i did that then you wouldn't have anything to bitch about
You've been riding my ass ever since i got here, and you still haven't run me off. So get over it. I'm not going anywhere, so deal with it.
Quote from: greatguns on January 25, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
But to say that they stand around and just watch it burn isn't what they do.
Oh...Really??....Although I wasn't there, I know for a fact (having been told by a fireman that was there) that the little house fire in Longton not long ago (the one across from the gas station) wasn't put out, nor was there any effort to put it out.
I do not know what the Longton Fire Department does or does not do as I do not live there. As for you, Steve, don't flatter yourself. I haven't done anything with you since you got here.