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Since it's almost the first of December....bout 45 minutes.........I'm wishin yall a Merry Christmas and bowin out of politics until after Christmas. I enjoy y'all, even the ones who rag me :D but somehow politics just don't fit with Peace on Earth Good Will Toward Men if ya know what I mean! I apologize to any I have offended, makin my amends. :)
Quote from: pamsback on November 30, 2009, 11:23:30 PM
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Since it's almost the first of December....bout 45 minutes.........I'm wishin yall a Merry Christmas and bowin out of politics until after Christmas. I enjoy y'all, even the ones who rag me :D but somehow politics just don't fit with Peace on Earth Good Will Toward Men if ya know what I mean! I apologize to any I have offended, makin my amends. :)
Too cute!
I may do the same. I need to spend way more time off the computer totally! I have a lot of baking I want to do and it sure won't get done with me sitting here.
As Mr Wagner and others have on occasion commented on in other threads in here....I will say this:
Trust me...............we have a moderator........
2 in fact.. ~~~~~~~~ myself included..
just because I am not verbally on the forum lately.. I'm checking on it...
Don't think for one minute that I don't know whats going on and who is logged on and who is hidden and who is saying and doing what. I have all the keys to all the rooms~~so once again.. I know whats being said.
It gets nasty.. then it settles for a bit.. and then emotions rise to the top again..
To want to be in this section..you have to be made of some tough stuff... You can whine about the "lack of moderating"..
But I've been on forums where censorship is high.. I left.. I hated it.. I have also been on forums where it was so out of hand that there was not ANY ounce of humanity in the posts.. I hated that too and I left.. But it was my choice on both accounts..
There are some "clashing" of personality's in here.. Along with being on different sides of the issues and each passionately believing in their own side. There will be some name calling.. some mad remarks.. some "language"..
That usually goes with the territory of believing in something so much that sometimes the frustration of others NOT seeing it leads to some shit slinging.
I could shut this whole section down... I could go in and slap hands and wash mouths out with soap.. I could turn this Political section in to the biggest socialistic little "you can't say this and you can't say that " section on the website..
((But honestly.. that wouldn't be fair either.... and you liberals wouldn't like it one bit ;D)
So~~~~~~~~~~~~as much as it pains me sometimes....
I "allow" everyone to say what they want in here~~ because in this section I don't think there needs to be a muzzle put on anyone..*on either side*... and as far as trying to monitor and adhere to "politically correct " statements and making sure no ones toes are stepped on.. I'm not going to do it! Very little censorship will be administered in here in this section......
We get enough of that in our government and liberal media.. I'm not shutting it off in this little dot on the map.
If you have the balls to dish it out.. you better have the balls to take it.
So if that bothers any of you and you can't deal with the heat .......I'd say you better stay out of the kitchen..or find a different kitchen that suits more to your way of thinking and your fancy.
Have I made myself clear enough? :)
All comments to me or about this post that you don't want posted publicly can be emailed to me at teresa@downrangemedia.com
oh yea~~ and early Merry Christmas back at ya~~ ;D
I belonged to a board once that was heavily moderated and I didn't like it either. They had a "debate" area and it was voted that there would be very little moderating and that's what they got. Sometimes it got heated......VERY heated. So, then there were people complaining about that lack of moderation and that it wasn't fair. So, heavy handed moderators were set up. "Mothers" if you will. Then nothing could be said unless it was said in such a way as to not offend anyone. Sure made the ones that complained happy, but you couldn't say anything. I left. My thoughts on it are is that we make a choice to go into certain areas and read and participate. shrug It's not like anyone is holding a gun to a persons head and telling them they MUST get into a heated thread.
I used to run BBS's back way back. Ran mine off a 286 witha 40 mb hard drive.
Maximus software with D'bridge mail tosser frontend.
We used to set up a forum/thread that was flame area. This is tame compared to those days.
kinda like comparing black pepper to habeneros
LOL
As the target of most of the classless despicable name callling, I'm of the opinion that the posters engaging in it have done so because they lack any reasonable argument to support their point and because they have too much idle time to sit around and think about how much they hate anyone who isn't like them. Frankly i chuckle to myself every time someone tries to attack me. It's a sure sign that I have gained the upper hand in the argument.
The only complaint i have with regard to the forum moderation is that the person you have left in charge should be an example to the posting community. Although he has since gone back and deleted his post, he left a spectacular example of how not to act on a forum by laying down a pretty lame cheap shot.
that being said, merry christmas Pam, hope to see you back soon.
Quote from: Anmar on December 01, 2009, 09:22:48 AM
As the target of most of the classless despicable name callling, I'm of the opinion that the posters engaging in it have done so because they lack any reasonable argument to support their point and because they have too much idle time to sit around and think about how much they hate anyone who isn't like them. Frankly i chuckle to myself every time someone tries to attack me. It's a sure sign that I have gained the upper hand in the argument.
The only complaint i have with regard to the forum moderation is that the person you have left in charge should be an example to the posting community. Although he has since gone back and deleted his post, he left a spectacular example of how not to act on a forum by laying down a pretty lame cheap shot.
that being said, merry christmas Pam, hope to see you back soon.
I'm sorry Anmar that you have that mislead notion about why people don't care for you... or for the way you have so eloquently ( in your own eyes) have set yourself up on this golden throne towering high above us mere mortals that dwell beneath you. I don't think that is the reason..
People who actually have narcissistic behavior patterns usually don't see .. will never admit...or really ever understand when the main problem starts shining a less than bright light on the image that they have of themselves..
The person I have left in charge while I am unavailable is someone who I know and trust... enough said.
Quote from: Teresa on December 01, 2009, 06:19:06 PM
I'm sorry Anmar that you have that mislead notion about why people don't care for you... or for the way you have so eloquently ( in your own eyes) have set yourself up on this golden throne towering high above us mere mortals that dwell beneath you. I don't think that is the reason..
People who actually have narcissistic behavior patterns usually don't see .. will never admit...or really ever understand when the main problem starts shining a less than bright light on the image that they have of themselves..
ROTFLMBO Eloquence at its best!
Really? how would you explain the inability of any of the people in your group to formulate legitimate arguments based on facts to discuss positions. Do you think you're telling me something new when you say that I'm full of myself? I've already posted that i know its true. So what? Someone called me a whippersnapper a few months ago. I'll gladly accept that title too. If it weren't for a bunch of whippersnappers bucking the conventional thinking 230 years ago, we'd all be British subjects.
Quote from: Anmar on December 01, 2009, 09:22:48 AM
As the target of most of the classless despicable name callling, I'm of the opinion that the posters engaging in it have done so because they lack any reasonable argument to support their point and because they have too much idle time to sit around and think about how much they hate anyone who isn't like them. Frankly i chuckle to myself every time someone tries to attack me. It's a sure sign that I have gained the upper hand in the argument.
The only complaint i have with regard to the forum moderation is that the person you have left in charge should be an example to the posting community. Although he has since gone back and deleted his post, he left a spectacular example of how not to act on a forum by laying down a pretty lame cheap shot.
that being said, merry christmas Pam, hope to see you back soon.
Quote from: Anmar on December 01, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Really? how would you explain the inability of any of the people in your group to formulate legitimate arguments based on facts to discuss positions. Do you think you're telling me something new when you say that I'm full of myself? I've already posted that i know its true. So what? Someone called me a whippersnapper a few months ago. I'll gladly accept that title too. If it weren't for a bunch of whippersnappers bucking the conventional thinking 230 years ago, we'd all be British subjects.
Interesting that you should bring up facts. Unless I am mistaken a "fact" is something that is true. You say that the people in Teresas "group" (whatever the hell that is supposed to mean?) lack the ability to base arguments on facts. Yet you accuse me of deleting a post, something I have never done. I fully admit that I went back and edited the original post in the interest of trying to make amends, I DID NOT DELETE IT. I explained this in the thread "message to all forum members". Perhaps it is not Teresas "group" that need check its facts.
Pam, sorry. What started out as a nice thread turned into something political.
Anmar...
My dear~~~ I have to talk to you in my gentle Mothers voice...
What I think you need right now is someone who you can care about more than you do yourself..You are young and full of high ideals about yourself.. .. You are not stupid by a long shot.. but neither are you the brightest shiniest tack in the box.. even though you believe that you are.. You have a long way to go and many many things to learn in the process that you will not find in all the books you have surrounded yourself with.
Bless your heart~~~ you absolutely really DO believe that you are the only one in here that gives relevant informative posts don't you~~?
amazing...... just totally amazing.........
I mean I've meant people that are so self absorbed that they absolutely can't see anything but their own glorious aura that they have surrounded themselves with. You are right up there at the top of the book list titled..
" I Love Anmar Becasue He Is So Smart And Wonderful".
written by.....who else??
Anmar
So sad~~~ it must get lonely sitting up there so high on your throne... all alone.. admiring only yourself.
If it wasn't so pathetic.. it would be funny....But I'm not laughing... I AM smiling dear boy.. but it is totally out of pity..
Whats more sad to me is that you don't really see what others see do you? You say you don't care if anyone likes you ??
Oh yes you do.. or you wouldn't act the way you do.. Like a child always needing to be the center of attention .. Always cutting everyone and whatever they say down so you feel better and smarter inside about yourself..
As far as 'bucking the conventional thinking"... ? There are many in this small meeting place that buck the system..They have stood on the battlefields and on enemy front lines bucking the system so people like you and me
can say what we want to in the manner we want without fear of repercussion..
It would do you good to chill out and actually listen to what they say on occasion.
Quote from: Varmit on December 01, 2009, 09:13:43 PM
Pam, sorry. What started out as a nice thread turned into something political.
It turned political Billy because it was posted in the politics thread.. with a hint of politics attached to it..
Nice post yes.. but political undertones non the less..
If you don't want your posts to take on a political theme.. then post them in other sections.. :)
Went back and re-read it, I see what you mean. I must've been blinded by my glorious aura the 1st time. ;D
Quote from: Teresa on December 01, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
Anmar...
My dear~~~ I have to talk to you in my gentle Mothers voice...
What I think you need right now is someone who you can care about more than you do yourself..You are young and full of high ideals about yourself.. .. You are not stupid by a long shot.. but neither are you the brightest shiniest tack in the box.. even though you believe that you are.. You have a long way to go and many many things to learn in the process that you will not find in all the books you have surrounded yourself with.
Bless your heart~~~ you absolutely really DO believe that you are the only one in here that gives relevant informative posts don't you~~?
amazing...... just totally amazing.........
I mean I've meant people that are so self absorbed that they absolutely can't see anything but their own glorious aura that they have surrounded themselves with. You are right up there at the top of the book list titled..
" I Love Anmar Becasue He Is So Smart And Wonderful".
written by.....who else??
Anmar
So sad~~~ it must get lonely sitting up there so high on your throne... all alone.. admiring only yourself.
If it wasn't so pathetic.. it would be funny....But I'm not laughing... I AM smiling dear boy.. but it is totally out of pity..
Whats more sad to me is that you don't really see what others see do you? You say you don't care if anyone likes you ??
Oh yes you do.. or you wouldn't act the way you do.. Like a child always needing to be the center of attention .. Always cutting everyone and whatever they say down so you feel better and smarter inside about yourself..
As far as 'bucking the conventional thinking"... ? There are many in this small meeting place that buck the system..They have stood on the battlefields and on enemy front lines bucking the system so people like you and me
can say what we want to in the manner we want without fear of repercussion..
It would do you good to chill out and actually listen to what they say on occasion.
Sounds like he hoisted himself with his own petard.
ROTFL Oh I do get a kick out of this section of the board!! ;D ;D
You are so right, Sarah. Sadly, though, what started out as a nice card and a nice Christmas wish (making amends) from a very nice young lady turned into something I think is a terrible shame.
Larryj
Thanks Larry :)
I put this in here because the hard feelins are in this room although MOST of the people I argue with, we don't carry it over and can talk about other stuff just fine. Arguing can be a good hobby if you stick to issues and don't carry it to the derogatory personal level it has got to lately and I wanted to apologize for my part in lettin that happen. There are some pretty smart people in here whether we all agree with each other or not. Different opinions don't mean stupid :) OR wrong for that matter.
Just leave it at that and I'll probly jump right back in the deep end after Christmas...or maybe I won't! Who knows? ;D Miracles DO happen y'know LOL
I agree and I'll leave it at that.
Pam, have a wonderful Christmas and we'll chat later. :)
Thanks Teresa, well said. This portion of the forum does get heated but I have not seen anything that would make my hair curl. But I do have to add I do get tired of the people "that have been there done that" on every thread on the forum. With that said I will quit for now. ;D