I wonder what everybody thinks about him bein allowed to "go home to die" instead of havin to serve out his sentence.
The short answer...its a crock >:( He should have been left in prison to rot!!!
I agree
I'm afraid that by releasing him to go home a can of worms has been opened that they will never be able to put the lid back on.
Guess i'll play the devil's advocate. He was tried and imprisoned in Scotland, where the victims of his crime live. I think it's up to the families of the people who died and the people of Scotland to decide his fate. If they have made the choice to let him go out of religous or cultural beliefs, that is their right.
Scotland also has a "compassionate" prison release program. I didn't pay attention to all the details, but one of them is a person is released when they have less than 3 months to live.
I don't object to the program - I think it's a viable option the United States should sometimes use.
I do disagree with the "hero" welcome he received.
I think the reason he was tried in Scotland was that was where the bomb went off.
There were 180 Americans on board the American plane and the bomb was the deadliest terror attack on Americans until 9-11.
I'm not sure what kind of welcome he got, i honestly haven't been following the story closely. The only AP article i read said that the Libyan government had taken steps to tone down the reception.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_re_af/ml_lockerbie
Quote from: Anmar on August 21, 2009, 09:03:07 AM
I'm not sure what kind of welcome he got, i honestly haven't been following the story closely. The only AP article i read said that the Libyan government had taken steps to tone down the reception.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_re_af/ml_lockerbie
I watched it on the news....there was a crowd....... cheering and slappin him on the back and wavin flags.
As for the compassionate release program....on the one hand I see the point....on the other hand he showed no compassion to the people he killed who didn't get to spend THEIR last moments with THEIR loved ones.....ain't like it was an ACCIDENT......it was cold-blooded premeditated murder........
Quote from: Anmar on August 21, 2009, 08:26:33 AM
Guess i'll play the devil's advocate. He was tried and imprisoned in Scotland, where the victims of his crime live. I think it's up to the families of the people who died and the people of Scotland to decide his fate. If they have made the choice to let him go out of religous or cultural beliefs, that is their right.
Better check again there devils advocate, the majority of the victims were Americans on that flight.
Quote from: Mom70x7 on August 21, 2009, 08:48:15 AM
Scotland also has a "compassionate" prison release program. I didn't pay attention to all the details, but one of them is a person is released when they have less than 3 months to live.
I don't object to the program - I think it's a viable option the United States should sometimes use.
I do disagree with the "hero" welcome he received.
Why be compassionate to a mass murderer? There was no compassion shown for the ones who died in that bombing
Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 21, 2009, 06:03:17 PM
Um, did any American families complain when he was tried in Scotland? Or did they accept whatever Scotland did? I really don't know. It was a terrible tragedy regardless. I wonder how that would have been handled here if the circumstances were similar.
The bombing was comitted in scottland so the trials were held there. Scottland had jurisdiction. IF it had of happened here, we would have had jurisdiction. The sad fact is this terrorist is now being heralded as a hero when he should be dying in his prison cell.
Quote from: Mom70x7 on August 21, 2009, 08:48:15 AM
Scotland also has a "compassionate" prison release program. I didn't pay attention to all the details, but one of them is a person is released when they have less than 3 months to live.
I don't object to the program - I think it's a viable option the United States should sometimes use.
You can't be serious??!!?? When should this be used in the U.S.?
Frankly, I think that son of a bitch should have been hanged.
Hangings way too quick and "compassionate"... :police:
I will have to answer to God for my feelings. Anyone that takes a life should not be allowed to live. Cold blooded murder is just that. Ask the people that jumped out of the WTC or the people on that plane. When you bomb a plane or run into a building it is thought out murder. I am so mad right now to think we should be compassionate, that person needs to think about how those people died.
Jane
Quote from: Teresa on August 22, 2009, 09:45:49 AM
Hangings way too quick and "compassionate"... :police:
You assume that I would employ the "quick drop" method. no, no, no, by hanging I meant that a rope placed around his neck and his ass hauled up the nearest tree branch so he can choke on it for awhile. >:(
Since it was Scotland, I'd like to have seen him treated the same way William Wallace was at the end of Braveheart. Now there is a deterent towards high crimes and treason.
Quote from: flintauqua on August 23, 2009, 08:55:38 AM
Since it was Scotland, I'd like to have seen him treated the same way William Wallace was at the end of Braveheart. Now there is a deterent towards high crimes and treason.
William Wallace was NOT a criminal or a terrorist. He was a Patriot.
Quote from: srkruzich on August 21, 2009, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: Diane Amberg on August 21, 2009, 06:03:17 PM
Um, did any American families complain when he was tried in Scotland? Or did they accept whatever Scotland did? I really don't know. It was a terrible tragedy regardless. I wonder how that would have been handled here if the circumstances were similar.
The bombing was comitted in scottland so the trials were held there. Scottland had jurisdiction. IF it had of happened here, we would have had jurisdiction. The sad fact is this terrorist is now being heralded as a hero when he should be dying in his prison cell.
srkruzich: Where did you get the quote from Diane? I can't find it.
Quote from: pamsback on August 23, 2009, 09:07:00 AM
Quote from: flintauqua on August 23, 2009, 08:55:38 AM
Since it was Scotland, I'd like to have seen him treated the same way William Wallace was at the end of Braveheart. Now there is a deterent towards high crimes and treason.
William Wallace was NOT a criminal or a terrorist. He was a Patriot.
I started to add that I didn't believe Wallace deserved what was done to him, only that I do believe the bomber deserved said treatment. But I didn't know how to say it without someone on here twisting the words back upon myself.
I agree with your statement of William Wallace being a Patriot. But what he did was considered a high crime and treason by his opponent, the English, just as what our nations founding fathers did.
I'm sure that somewhere in there I said something that offended someone in someway, and I'm sure I'll be chastised for it forthwith.
Sorry Wilma, I deleted it and a lot more. I'm starting over. :-X :'(
No chastiseing from here...your first post just wasn't clear on that part!
I talk clearer than I write. Inflextion, tone, nuance just don't translate in my quick-draw writings. For me to write clearly, say in college, would require at least five revisions, with at least a day between each draft.
If I have to write a speech, I do the same even now. The shorter the talk is to be, the more time and rewrites I have to do.
Isn't that the honest way to do it? Then you get to say exactly what you mean without leaving in something that could be construed other than what you intend. Does that make sense?
I'd like to think so, but as poorly as I type on here, the thread would have moved on through 5 other people and when I finally posted it wouldn't make any sense at all, so I'm going to keep most of my comments to myself. Just CMA.
Quote from: flintauqua on August 23, 2009, 08:55:38 AM
Since it was Scotland, I'd like to have seen him treated the same way William Wallace was at the end of Braveheart. Now there is a deterent towards high crimes and treason.
Flint, I like the way you think...sometimes ;)
LONDON (Reuters) – Britain agreed to include Lockerbie bomber Abdel Basset al-Megrahi in a prisoner transfer deal with Libya because of "overwhelming interests" shortly before an oil deal was sealed with Tripoli, a newspaper reported on Sunday.
The Sunday Times said leaked letters from Justice Secretary Jack Straw undermined government denials of a link between the former Libyan agent's freedom and British trade interests.
(Full article http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090830/ts_nm/us_britain_libya_3 )
Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on August 23, 2009, 07:47:24 AM
Quote from: Teresa on August 22, 2009, 09:45:49 AM
Hangings way too quick and "compassionate"... :police:
You assume that I would employ the "quick drop" method. no, no, no, by hanging I meant that a rope placed around his neck and his ass hauled up the nearest tree branch so he can choke on it for awhile. >:(
Naw.... y'all have it wrong. Take the bastard up to 20,000 ft. and throw his ass out. Let him experience what those poor souls did on the plane when it blew. Let the Punishment Fit the Crime!
Quote from: Warph on August 31, 2009, 01:19:53 AM
Naw.... y'all have it wrong. Take the bastard up to 20,000 ft. and throw his ass out. Let him experience what those poor souls did on the plane when it blew. Let the Punishment Fit the Crime!
Ok.. I'll fuel the plane............
Somebody bring popcorn..... this will be good to watch ;D