This is encouraging for the 2010 elections, hopefully the Republicans can win back control of one or both houses.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090731/pl_politico/25646
This is not the place to start this thread but Maxine and I are old and been around for a life time and we just have to say. We do not mean this as a personal attact but we have never seen anyone like Diane Amberg. She has done everything, been every where and can give you information on anything that someone writes about on the forum. Maxine and I wish we had all that information in our heads. Not only that she lives back east not even in the area.
AS far as Democrat and Republicans if one does not do it the other will. On Obama, he is not our president but is has nothing to do with color. Everything he does gives the goverment more and more control. Also he is the only president that has bowed to the wrong people told the other countries what bad people we are. Maxine and I could go on and on about this but it is wine time and we never miss that.
Maxine and Maude, living life to the limit and hopeing we see 100.(just had to get this off our chest)
Ouch! :o :o
It's okay, Diane, they just forgot to put the smiley in there.
Larryj
Diane, don't you dare! I love to hear from you and it doesn't make a darn where you choose to live. We all can use more information in our lives instead of nasty digs. Old doesn't always mean wise! I didn't read where you had to live in Elk County to be on this forum. Lived a lifetime? Some people live a lifetime in 15 years. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Maxine and Maude, you post the least and say the most of anyone on the Forum. We look forward to your wisdom, wit and humor more than anyone else's posts.
Quote from: ELK@KC on July 31, 2009, 07:05:33 AM
This is encouraging for the 2010 elections, hopefully the Republicans can win back control of one or both houses.
I have to disagree on that. I my humble opinion I hope that an Origanialist party will control the houses. I have lost faith in both the Dem.s and Repub.'s. I would like to see a party formed that holds the same principles and ideals of our founders.
Maude, I couldn't agree more with your post, well, except for the wine, I prefer Rum.
If you are totaly informed, you do tend to sound more intelligent. It truly is hard to debate with ignorance. ;D ;D ;D
Tell me about it, I have been debating with it since I have joined this forum.
That's all it takes to make a good horserace, a difference of opinion. I'm done!
Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on August 01, 2009, 08:39:08 AM
Tell me about it, I have been debating with it since I have joined this forum.
Quote from: Maude on July 31, 2009, 04:39:01 PM
Not only that she lives back east not even in the area.
Ignorance depends on which side of the "debate" (and I use that term loosley to describe some of the crap that's been goin on in here lately)a person thinks is "right" .
As for whether or NOT DIane lives in the "area" I was under the impression most of the topics in here deal with NATIONAL politics NOT Elk county or any OTHER "locality".
When I joined about a year ago there were MANY diverse discussions goin on and some intelligent things were posted AND argued,discussed and people agreed to disagree without bein a**holes about it. I hate to break it to you all but you just keep repeatin the same tired bitchfests and the same tired insults to try to run off anybody who doesn't agree with your close-minded view of the "way things are supposed to be". Have you noticed that FEW people post ANYthing anymore?
We got it or at least I do, all you want is somebody to agree with you and tell you how "right " you are and pat your heads and say good little conservative. Well you seem to be in the right place for that. I see people complaining on here about how elk county is so far behind and has none of the progress to make it a more competitive place, well, you have nothin to blame but the same closed-minded "well that's the way we always did it" attitudes you all reveal in your posts.
Guess what..."the way we always did it ain't gonna work anymore. Nothin has changed for the BETTER in greenwood or elk county either one in the last 50 years. Severy was a great town when I was growin up, "the way we always did it" people killed it. Now it's a friggin ghost town.
So you all just keep on bein smug and judgmental and then wonder why tryin to get anything better is not happenin. A lot of good people who could have done those things either left out of frustration or disgust with "the way we always did things" or just gave up, then listen to people bitch and shake their heads cause they KNOW.
Darn all you people and your "facts" coming in here and trying to use your "facts" to make "arguments." Pshhhh.
With regard to ignorance, it's here, we have it. I'm not going to point fingers, but I'll just say that a lot of people get misinformed by the media, and then post that misinformation here on these forums. Either the posters of this information knowingly pass on false information, or the do so unintentionally, which happens out of ignorance.
OK Maxine and I will put a happy face on :)Now what we need to do is look at how Obama got in office. The east coast and the west coast. As far as Severy going to Shit, Pamsback did you stay in Severy to help the town from going to pot? And how can someone in Delware help Howard. Max and I live close and we went to the Longton Fair. Maxine and I have given to the fireworks in Howard and the clock in the court house. What have you done for Severy?
Yes we all have the power of freedom of speech and Max and I are ones to use it, only when we feel we have something to say. Not just to voice our opinion but when we feel someone has stepped on the toes of people in Howard.
Thank you ELk@KC We only want to give our thoughts as Howard is full of good people and we hate to see it as depressed as it is.
Max and I are to old to do anything but maybe there are some youngins will take the lead and carry on.
Maude and Maxine to old to care and to young to give up.
QuoteAs far as Severy going to Shit, Pamsback did you stay in Severy to help the town from going to pot?
Yes actually we stayed until 1999. Then we left. AM I sorry? Yes AND no. Would I go back? Even tho it would mean being broke, yes, if it was still home. It's not. It's where I came from. What we do for Severy is visit relatives on a regular basis and spend money there.
I post to get other peoples ideas and to find out how they think. I don't give a shit if they agree with me or not. Not agreeing with somebody is how you LEARN NEW THINGS...a revolutionary concept I realize......
I didn't see anybody steppin on toes...specially Diane. If you think what I said was steppin on toes..read it again. There are good people there who would do anything to get things movin again but they get tired......
This is me..... young enough to care...old enough to know WHEN it's time to move on.
Welcome back Pam! FYI M&M, Diane has roots in Howard and I do believe that she has donated to the fireworks fund etc, etc in the name of her family. I have never known her to be nasty in her posts nor is she disrespectful. Yes, she is an intelligent outspoken woman; much like our own Pam. God bless 'em both! I too enjoy hearing multiple views and because I take a view from the democratic party viewpoint, I have often been villified. That's okay since nobody forced me to express my views; but I often get a peek at the narrow minds here, and a lack of education. Too bad, especially these days when education is just a google away. Some think that education means subscribing to a few newsletters that fall along the lines of their narrow viewpoint. How sad for them, for they are easily led. If it is far right it is alright, right?
"lack of education"----Sixdogsmom
I don't have a LACK of Education. WHO are YOU to call ME stupid? Or ANYONE on this forum stupid...AND before you jump, I know you didn't call ME stupid directly. I am sick and tired of everytime no one has anything better to come back with, they scream "LACK of Education!" I don't see Ph.D. behind YOUR name. I don't see you as being given the award for Most Brilliant Person on Earth either (me neither). So, since you don't know me and I don't know you, YOU can't possibly call ME stupid. Lack of education has been brought up at least 2 times that I can remember. In this thread and directly to me in another thread. If you're so smart why aren't you CEO of Citibank or GM? Why aren't YOU President?
Narrow mind? Maybe if that's what you want to call me. Passionate about certain things I CAN'T change? HELL YES! STUPID? Definitely NOT! Opinionated? Damned straight! Gonna sit idly by and allow people (including myself) to be picked on? HELL NO! Going to sit idly by while my country gets run down by the foreigner in the White House? NOPE.
All I can say to some of you who have been more than catty and crappy to everyone on here lately (including to Teresa) is that you better be glad I don't moderate this site. You wouldn't be getting shitty with anyone anymore. Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one. No one's opinion is ANY BETTER than ANY ONE else's. So, having an opinion that disagrees with others on this forum does NOT make you STUPID!
I guess that's enough for now. I've been in the sun at the fair today and I'm just SICK of the useless BS that goes on on here and haven't been posting lately because of it! SO now let the bitching begin again!
Hang in here Maude and Maxine I totally agree with what you have to say.
Same here, I thought I had given you some good planters advise Jane. Too bad. :'( :'(
here I go again and I said I was not going to post anything else in Politics, but by damn this has gone far enough. Yes, KsHillbilly, opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one, however some are bigger than others. Diane, you just keep on being on. I, for one, do appreciate all your donations to causes in Elk County that will not benefit you personally, but knowing you helped someone else means a lot ( to most of us anyhow ). Name calling, be-littleing someone, or making snide and hateful comments has no place in our society, or on this forum. We must respect each other and the opinions of others. I don't think I have read anywhere on this forum that we are all to agree on any particular thing. Like a**holes, we each have our opinions and are free to express them, but that doesn't mean that we all have to jump into the same pot. Now, "our country being led by a foreigner in the white house" is more fiction - Those that don't like Obama need to get over it. LIke it or not, he is our President, duly elected by the majority, and is here to stay until his term is up. So now, sling all the shit at me you want cause I'm a good ducker. And I just might be the one that comes out smelling like a rose. :-* :angel:
1. "kshillbilly, when it's time for you to be judged, may God have mercy on your hate-infested soul."--Flo ( :o )
2. "Name calling, be-littleing someone, or making snide and hateful comments has no place in our society, or on this forum. We must respect each other and the opinions of others. I don't think I have read anywhere on this forum that we are all to agree on any particular thing"--Flo ( :angel: )
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Bush was duly elected by the majority for TWO terms so maybe those that hated him need to "get over it". I will jump on the birth certificate bandwagon. If he's a LEGAL citizen, show me the certificate. If not, get out of the White House.
This has gone just about far enough. >:(
Quote2. "Name calling, be-littleing someone, or making snide and hateful comments has no place in our society, or on this forum. We must respect each other and the opinions of others. I don't think I have read anywhere on this forum that we are all to agree on any particular thing"--Flo by kshillbilly
Ks, I don't know if you and Mom ever talked it out like you and I did BUT the fact she made one comment that was harsh does not diminish the MERIT of THIS one. No truer words are on here. Mom has a temper just like the rest of yall, she's ALSO NOT stupid. SHe speaks her mind.....shes my Mom....I'm here for her.
I don't know WHY yall started attackin Diane and SDM........Diane is always askin as many things as she tells. SDM is just of another political preference than the ones of you that have been most VOCAL lately. Yall seriously need to step back and see whats goin on here.
As for this deal about Obamas birth certificate that is causin all this hate and discontent on here, THINK, in this world of ours in THIS day and age do you REALLY think that if there was a piece of paper out there that said Obama was NOT an American citizen that the people who wanted it could not GET it?!? GIVE me a friggin break!! There would be people LINED up with COPIES of it OR the ORIGINAL if they had enough money to bribe somebody to give it to them at the WHITEHOUSE front door with PITCHFORKS and TORCHES for Christs sakes.
IF you want to think that there is a big enough conspiracy that somethin like that could be HIDDEN in this day and age...KNOCK yourselves OUT but show the people who DON't the SAME respect you expect THEM to show YOUall (as in EVERYbody on EITHER side )
I seriously don't give a shit if anybody likes what I say...I've resigned my membership 3 times now today but have been signin back in to defend people I think are gettin a raw deal. Somethin YALL don't realize is that I would be just as likely to defend any ONE of you for the SAME reason. I probly WON"T resign again...they may throw me out for speakin my mind on this but se la vi whatever happens happens.
I've been quittin instead of standin up and I ain't proud of that. I also am not stupid enough to butt my head against a brick wall more than 50 or 60 times lol. So I may post I may not...but when I do it will because I mean what I say and will say what I mean.
Quote from: kshillbillys on August 01, 2009, 09:52:18 PM
Bush was duly elected by the majority for TWO terms so maybe those that hated him need to "get over it". I will jump on the birth certificate bandwagon. If he's a LEGAL citizen, show me the certificate. If not, get out of the White House.
Which other president's have you demanded for a birth certificate? The supreme court has thrown out challenge after challenge on this subject. State officials from Hawaii have confirmed NUMEROUS times that they have his cert on file but state law doesn't allow them to release it. A certificate of live birth has been issued. A newspaper clipping announcing his birth has been released. He has given plenty of proof that he is a legal citizen, yet people still demand more proof. It's there, its all over the place.
Stick to real issues ::)
Ohhh Pluuuease... ::) ::) ::)
I think I'm gonna be sick!
And now Back to our regular programming!
You know, I think it is kinda funny that conservatives get accused of being "narrow minded" when they disagree with others. Whatever happened to that diversity and tolerance the left is always talking about?? For those of you who think that all "we" want on this forum is people patting us on the head and telling us what good little conservatives we are, I urge you to look at the threads that covered topics like abortion, religion, the bible. You'll find that we "conservatives" have varying opinions on those.
At times a debate does get heated, but no one is trying to run any one off of here. As for name calling, most of that has come from left of center. My advise...don't be so thin skinned.
As for the Birth Certificate...yes, it is a dead issue. obama has seen to that by spending a huge amount of money to seal those records. Frankly, I think that it is a ruse, a smoke screen to keep folks occupied so they don't notice what else is going on. At one point, I was a "birther" myself. However, he is not going to be stopped with that issue. Instead, I like the idea that Glenn Beck came up with. That is, look at the people obama has surrounded himself with, look at the structure he is setting up with his plethora (I love that word) of czars. Not just how many he has but who these people are and what they stand for. Talk about them with your neighbors, coworkers, children...anyone who will listen. Start writing your congressmen, state legislators, and let them know that if they continue to back this tyrant, they will be replaced. Don't get caught up in trying to keep tabs on every little thing this administration puts out. Remember how they work. They try and throw so much at you that it is impossible to keep up. Get together with your neighbors and friends, talk about what is going on and what is coming. I don't mean just this forum or through emails, but physical "get togethers". I'm not talking about forming "overthrow the government militia" groups, but rather just ordinary citizens that are concerned about this country. I am kinda getting off topic here (like that has never happened before ;)) but I just think that we are focusing on too many individual trees and not noticing the underbrush that is choking out the forest.
This is a great post, Billy, I couldn't have said it better. I agree with you 100%. Name calling and insults don't belong here and they always cloud the issue anyway. Thanks again.
Larryj
QuoteFor those of you who think that all "we" want on this forum is people patting us on the head and telling us what good little conservatives we are, I urge you to look at the threads that covered topics like abortion, religion, the bible. You'll find that us "conservatives" have varying opinions on those.
That was a rhetorical observation. For those of you who group every person who has a "liberal" idea as big government loving, abortion supportin, far left commie radical.........the same thing applies.
Quotebut I just think that we are focusing on too many individual trees and not noticing the underbrush that is choking out the forest.
EXACTLY!
QuoteI think I'm gonna be sick!
this subject makes me a little nauseaus myself.
I think people need to wake up to the fact that this country is deep in debt and gettin DEEPER in debt everyday to places like CHina! You barely get a blip of a report about all the "reassurances" OUR government has to keep making to China that their "investment" in America is still solid to keep them from deMANDing their money or the SECURITY for that money. You want to worry about America becoming a communist country THAT's what we need to be paying closer attention to and gettin out from under because if China calls in our note that's what we will be in about 30 seconds Obama or NO obama.
I didn't vote for Obama...I don't like him...I didn't vote for Bush EITHER time...I didn't like HIM.... his Moms kinda cool tho....I didn't vote for the FIRST Bush.....I have just kept on keepin on thru every one of them tho and I will KEEP on keepin on just like a billion OTHER people who didn't vote for any of the above...may have learn to speak chinese now but I'll STILL keep on keepin on....I always vote for the UNLIKELY ones who never even make it to the final ballot most of the time but I do make my preference known. LOL, the very first time I ever voted when I turned 18..I voted for Hubert Humphrey LOL because he seemed to me like he had common sense. There is no point for this ramble....just ramblin and rememberin out loud.....guess I'll get off here and go find a chinese phrase book just in case :P Yall have a good Sunday now yhear?
Pamsback, that means you were born in 1947 as I voted for Nixon in 1968 :)
No Lol I was born in 1959. Humphrey ran for the nomination right after I got old enough to vote and never even made it on the final ballot.
Pamsback,
If we talking about the same Hubert Humphery, he ran for president in 1968 and lost to Nixon, died in 1978. So you were able to vote when you were nine years old???
God I have alzheimers or somthin...I been thinkin about this ever since you said that about Nixon :P It was a mock election in school! I remember my dad wantin to know who I voted for and when I told him askin what my reason was :P How ate up is that!
:DThanks I could not get the dates to add up correct.
WOW. Can't begin to believe some of the posts on here...First, attacks because someone might possess an IQ of more than 95? Secondly...Why on earth would anyone ask someone who doesn't live in Elk County if they've done anything to support Elk County? I don't care how many posts someone has or has not placed here on this Forum...I think we need to progress beyond a seventh grade playground mentality and get on with the real issues at hand...Leave the bullying off of this Forum.
Quote from: Catwoman on August 02, 2009, 08:47:53 PM
I think we need to progress beyond a seventh grade playground mentality and get on with the real issues at hand...Leave the bullying off of this Forum.
Yeah, well, they started it... ;)
LOL...You are too funny, Billy... ;)...But I'm going to quote a far better woman than I..."They might have started it but it's up to you to finish it!"
Quote from: Catwoman on August 02, 2009, 09:26:58 PM
LOL...You are too funny, Billy... ;)...But I'm going to quote a far better woman than I..."They might have started it but it's up to you to finish it!"
Well back when i was in school, when someone started something and i had ot finish it, that left the one who started it laying down on the ground usually.
This is really getting out of hand and I have been trying to stay out of all the personal attacks on my fellow forum members. I find it all just so against what I learned from my Kansas roots. If my Mom were reading this we would all be grounded in our room. That being said I will remind you this is not the real world it is a virtual world and you can't take this all too seriously it is not the real world it is the internet forum. This thread reminds me of the Rodney King beating. All I can do is quote Rodney's second most famous quote. His most famous quote was " Can't we all get along"? The one this thread makes me think of is:
Ouch, AHHHHHHH, don't hit me, Ouuch, Ahhhhhh. Very Disturbing. I expect better out of Kansas blood.
David
It seems to me everyone got very thinned skinned over this thread. After I read everything I see no personal attack just personal opinions. :-X
Quote from: Jane on August 03, 2009, 03:32:23 PM
It seems to me everyone got very thinned skinned over this thread. After I read everything I see no personal attack just personal opinions. :-X
I will admit to being thin skinned when it comes to seeing fault with personal attacks by fellow forum members against another forum member. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder. It would not hurt anyone on here to be more considerate of what they say towards their fellow forum members. You can never be too polite or have too many manners. If something you say hurts another what do you have to lose by saying you are sorry?
David
Quote from: kshillbillys on August 01, 2009, 09:52:18 PM
1. "kshillbilly, when it's time for you to be judged, may God have mercy on your hate-infested soul."--Flo ( :o )
and now the rest of the story. When I wrote that, and I do not apologize, you were ranting and cheering about how wonderful the person was that shot George Tiller. Sorry, but murder is murder regardless of who does it and why they done it, PERIOD.
I don't believe I ever came out and said that the man that killed Tiller was wonderful. I said I was glad he couldn't do anymore abortions and that I hoped no one stepped in to fill his shoes. I also said that I hoped he burned in hell. All my opinions...and yes I said I'd hire the guy a good lawyer if I was rich, not that it would do the guy one bit of good, he's still going to prison or will die for what he did.
I was told to fight the lawmakers, not the providers, which I do try. I've sent countless letters and emails about the subject of abortion to my lawmakers. It hasn't done any good yet, but maybe someday.
So Flo, in your opinion of murder is murder regardless of who does it and why they done it, the man that murdered Tiller is bad. AND in my opinion of murder is murder regardless of who does it and why they do it, Tiller committed murder every time he performed his "service". You say tomato, I say tomato...everyone has their own opinons on the matter.
NOW, I'm completely done with Dr. George Tiller and his killer.
how come its murder if someone kills a doctor murdering people and its not murder if we kill a dictator killing people.
Oh, lordy...here we go again. ::) I believe this dead dog has been kicked repeatedly and still refuses to hunt...Enough already.
Quote from: srkruzich on August 04, 2009, 08:32:27 PM
how come its murder if someone kills a doctor murdering people and its not murder if we kill a dictator killing people.
Steve both are murder and wrong. I also, do not support abortion or capital punishment. That being said if someone killed someone I loved I might change my mind and be willing to suffer the consequences.
David
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Too funny, Pam!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: pamsback on August 04, 2009, 10:09:25 PM
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Pam, PETA has been trying to get a hold of you. ALPO and PURINA have also been calling.
:o ;D Bring em on lol