Maybe I am just being paranoid but the release of this article so close to the swine flu thing is a little too creepy for me.
The Criminal Investigation Division at Fort Meade has been investigating USAMRIID at Fort Detrick since at least early February. Meade's CID pursues investigations of serious crimes and sensitive subjects of concern to the Army at regional bases like Detrick, which has no internal investigative arm.
A News-Post story in February reported that USAMRIID was shutting down most of its bioresearch while it tried to match its inventory to its records, citing an "overage" of BSAT, biological select agents and toxins.
Meade's CID, however, isn't concerned with overstock. Instead, agents are looking for what may have gone missing between 1987 and 2008.
"It's possible there are some viral samples missing," at USAMRIID, Fort Meade public affairs officer Chad Jones confirmed in a phone interview Monday
Read rest of story:.............
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/opinion/display_columnist.htm?StoryID=89276
I know, I know, ...everything is not a conspiracy...but still...................................
It's called "ring vaccination" or "traced vaccination" — a round 'em up and vaccinate program forced on the population by the government. DHS and FEMA have plans in place to accomplish this, as D. H. Williams wrote for the Daily Newscaster in February. An Indiana county municipal official in the vicinity of Chicago revealed a plan to "vaccinate the entire population within 48 hours" as part of a Hazard Mitigation Plan.
Rest of the story:.........................
http://www.infowars.com/government-template-for-mass-vaccination/
I realize that people will use the argument that sickness and diseases are always a real problem for everyone everywhere.. ( and I agree) . It could be with swine flu or something else. And I don't think anybody is really prepared for it... truly.
BUT................................
That's not paranoid Billy. It's a practically inevitable fact.
With people in almost every country screwing around with everything from microbes to human genes, it's inevitable that SOMETHING will get loose and wreak havoc one day. It's just a question of when and how bad.
Billy, this time I totally agree. We've already been alerted at the fire house. Unlike the last Swine Flu, there is no preventive flu shot, at least not yet, because this one is an odd blend of viruses. This could have be man made, but maybe not. CDC is working feverishly ( bad pun) on this. I'm sure you all know what to watch for. Billy, some time look up Operation Paperclip, Plum Island and Lyme Disease.
Ok, I just got an update From our Delaware State Fire school and the EMS office on the flu. Watch for body aches, coughing, fever of at around 103, possibly a nasty headache. A test must confirm that its this flu and not something similar. We just put more masks on the ambulances and will put masks on any suspected patients to contain the germs, as well as for our selves.
Diane, if some group wanted to spread an epidemic in this country, what better or more logical place to start it than Mexico. Thousands upon thousands of people cross the Mexican border into the US everyday. Another good reason we should shut our Borders down by any means possible. And even worse, not all of those that cross the Borders Illegally are Mexicans looking for work or delivering drugs. Many of them are Muslim enemies seeking our achilles heel.
I know there is consideration right now about closing the boarder crossings as it is. Yes, I agree enemies of any kind would have no problem spreading disease. I don't know if it's Muslims, "commies" or some other fashionable enemy. Maybe it's a plot by the drug company that manufactures Tamiflu. Hysterics are bound to start at any time. No ya can't get it from pork chops! :laugh:
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 29, 2009, 11:38:02 AM
Hysterics are bound to start at any time. No ya can't get it from pork chops! :laugh:
Whew...............(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/heat-2.gif)
Glad to hear that...
We had pork chops for supper last night..
And fresh asparagus and mashed potatoes .. ;D
;D ;D ;D
This reminds me so much of the Anthrax scare a few years ago, which turned out to be a lone domestic terrorist. This flu is an odd strain mix of human, pig, avian flu. It sounds definitely man made. Missing virus from the government lab. Spreading it by using the natural travel across the US-Mexico border. I think a case could be made that this is a bio-attack. Is it Muslim extremists, Donald Rumsfeld (Former Chairman of Gilead, Tamiflu manufacturer), Bilderberg Group's plan to reduce world population, lone nut, or mother nature doing what she does? So far we seem to be handling it well and are on top of things, but I see a certain hysteria and over hyping by the media that could cause more harm than the actual H1N1 virus will. Not that we should not be concerned and take practical steps to control this outbreak.
David
David, I don't know if the media is over or under hyping this. The number of cases in the U.S. went up from just 65 this morning to 91 by 1o'clock this afternoon and still counting.
Also, think about this...
In 2004, the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, along with ten county health departments, organized a series of exercises designed to assist local health department officials to exercise plans to mass vaccinate entire communities.
In 2009 Kansas was chosen for the site of a new Bio-lab
also, in 2009 Kansas govenor Katherin Sebileous was chosen as the new Health Secertary...
Maybe I am just connecting dots that aren't there, but it just seems odd to me.
Quote from: BillyakaVarmit on April 29, 2009, 12:32:23 PM
David, I don't know if the media is over or under hyping this. The number of cases in the U.S. went up from just 65 this morning to 91 by 1o'clock this afternoon and still counting.
Billy you won't get a vigorous argument from me on this one. I just have a gut feeling that this is going to turn out like the Anthrax scare and the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing. It is definitely something to be concerned about and I think it is being handled well right now. It is still too new to really make any hard and fast statements on. We shall see. Just my gut feeling.
David
Billy as a matter of fact I was well aware of those facts. I just listened to Alex Jones and Steve Quayle on my favorite radio show Coast to Coast AM. (You posted a link to infowars.com which is one of Jones websites along with prisonplanet.com) .
David
I think you would find the radio show and the websites interesting.
www.coasttocoastam.com
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
I love Coast to Coast. :D
Meanwhile, I am going to stay at home as much as possible, stay away from other people, wash my hands and carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer with me and use it. That small bottle of hand sanitizer kept us from picking up all the things that were going around the nursing home during the 7 years that my mother was there. We used it before we went in and again when we left. I think that I can escape this, too.
Might not be a bad idea to have two or three weeks of canned goods on the shelf. I wouldn't exhort anyone to hoard ....but you may want to have enough if you need to stay home a while....you know, just doing the ant thing lettin' the grasshopper have all the fun....and exposure.
CDC have not determined how easily the virus spreads between people.
But says that there will possibly be a vaccine by the end of next week.. ( we can only hope it works)
http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm
Back to basic Health classes that we used to get in school. I know I am preaching to the choir, mostly, but most of the Country isn't in the choir. ::)
Herd Immunity - An idea applied to humans coming out of animal husbandry where you don't go in other's barns, keep them out of yours, and don't mix your livestock. This is a disease coming up from the south, so if you are in the midst of it you will need to take more precautions, but those of us at a distance need to stay within our own and take more precautions before mixing with you down there;
Personal Hygiene - This has been touched on before, but wash your hands, and your whole body for that matter on a regular basis. Most pathogens are removed by 20 seconds of brisk washing with basic soap;
Proper Nutrition - Eat healthy and balanced meals to keep yourself well fueled to fight off disease and injury;
Regular Exercise - Regular exercise and activity puts our body in a mode of being able to fight off attacks. Something as basic as a thirty minute walk every other day has been shown to help, but a regular walk daily is better;
Rest - Pace yourself, take a short break during the day, and get restful sleep every night. Rest is another one of those things that helps your immune system fight.
Add all this to basic food preparation rules and good housekeeping, and we should have nothing to worry about.
I still live "Prepared." I keep mouse traps out, and that is how I find out I have mice (rather than waiting for them to invade and eat the food first), I fight bugs before they invade, I use "deet" as needed to prevent West Nile rather than fighting West Nile .. I use precautions concerning ticks to stop Lymes Disease before I get it ...
Basic life skills take the panic out of things like this. Don't ignore it, but it is just another pebble in the path of life!
Interesting find.............
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=22.22809,-111.357422&spn=35.796953,63.896484&z=4
flu tracker
Tersa, I will have you know that I DO wash regularly, once every saturday. Twice if I have a hot date! :)
Well then you have nothing to worry about. Germs will be afraid to get on you.......... ;D ;D
In case you didn't already catch it, we are at a level 5, which means a pandemic is eminent. Ya might want to get masks right quick if you don't have any. It's airborne.
Here is a government website for all things flu. There is a ton of info on here.
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/index.html
For your local information check:
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/whereyoulive/index.html
David