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Title: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Mom70x7 on February 16, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
Ouch!

Kansas suspends income tax refunds, may miss payroll as GOP leaders block borrowing

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6890766
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Teresa on February 16, 2009, 05:31:48 PM
You are frickin' kidding me!!   >:(
Wish we could just decide to do that with people we owe money to.
I guess we can, but WE face consequences of that kind of decision, unlike the thieving crooked corrupt slime ball of a government.
Mad? Not just yes.. but hell yes..   

(http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/angry.gif)

Another article on it.

The Kansas budget crisis has taken on a starker tenor as agencies reportedly are considering suspending income tax refunds to manage budgetary shortfalls.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/2009/02/16/daily8.html


(Read the comments at the end of the article.. you know.........I think people are just about getting their belly full......)



Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Dee Gee on February 16, 2009, 06:28:15 PM
Even worse is the fact that they can't make payroll, what are the state employees's supposed to do without their pay. They won't even be able to shop for food and medicines.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Dee Gee on February 16, 2009, 06:28:15 PM
Even worse is the fact that they can't make payroll, what are the state employees's supposed to do without their pay. They won't even be able to shop for food and medicines.
Send a letter to the Governor and tell her to get off her ass and sign the budget that the legislatures have prepared.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: jerry wagner on February 16, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Dee Gee on February 16, 2009, 06:28:15 PM
Even worse is the fact that they can't make payroll, what are the state employees's supposed to do without their pay. They won't even be able to shop for food and medicines.
Send a letter to the Governor and tell her to get off her ass and sign the budget that the legislatures have prepared.


Ummmmm...... it is her prerogative not to sign it.  Should the legislature possess a sufficient majority to overturn the perspective veto, so be it, otherwise create a better compromise.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 09:08:04 PM
Quote from: jerry wagner on February 16, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Dee Gee on February 16, 2009, 06:28:15 PM
Even worse is the fact that they can't make payroll, what are the state employees's supposed to do without their pay. They won't even be able to shop for food and medicines.
Send a letter to the Governor and tell her to get off her ass and sign the budget that the legislatures have prepared.


Ummmmm...... it is her prerogative not to sign it.  Should the legislature possess a sufficient majority to overturn the perspective veto, so be it, otherwise create a better compromise.
Well then its my perogative as well as everyone elses to give her as much hell as we can until she does.  Life can become miserable for her you know. 
GOing to be hard to run the programs she won't cut the budget on when her employees tell her to kiss off when they don't have a paycheck
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
got a email from knox,

Steve,

Thanks for the email. I agree with you 100%. This is the governor's doing. When we
in the legislature make her obey the law, she pulls this game. We need leadership in
the governor's office. We can only hope that Obama sweeps her away from Kansas.

Forrest

Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: pam on February 16, 2009, 10:10:08 PM
  Was interested in this because the company Joe works for is headquartered in Kansas so we pay Kansas income tax. So I read the whole thing and been listening to the news about it.

The last paragraph....."GOP leaders are hoping to pressure Sebelius into signing a bill making $326 million in adjustments to the budget for the fiscal year that ends June 30. Almost half of the adjustments are spending cuts.

Legislators approved that bill last week, but it has not reached the governor's desk. Sebelius hasn't said whether she will sign it."

Can't sign it if it hasn't got to her yet.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: DanCookson on February 17, 2009, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: srkruzich on February 16, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
got a email from knox,

Steve,

Thanks for the email. I agree with you 100%. This is the governor's doing. When we
in the legislature make her obey the law, she pulls this game. We need leadership in
the governor's office. We can only hope that Obama sweeps her away from Kansas.

Forrest





Hopefully she will go to Washington to serve on the great one's cabinet and not as a senate candidate.

Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Teresa on February 17, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
You know........It's not about the taxes....it's about the spending. >:(
We have a governor that supports illegals and the Chamber or Commerce owns most of the Rino Republicans, we will be a 3rd world state before long with all the illegals having jobs and Kansan will be out of work.
Pelosi,  Reid and the Obama White House were absolutely certain about one thing for the House/Senate negotiating committee on the Stimulus Bill:
There was to be no special restriction to keep illegal aliens from getting new jobs created by the bill at a cost of $250,000 to $500,000 each.

I had someone e-mail me this article.. and added this comment...
"I wonder how long before other states begin to go broke.  I am a state employee in Colorado, we have already given up a cost of living increase this year, any performance bonuses or incentive awards, are now facing forced furloughs, and in the position that I am in will most likely loose my housing allowance, which will be a hit of $500/month.  I commute in a van pool 180 miles a day and that pool will also most likely go a way which means my expense to commute.  That will entail a much reduced net income.
But the gas fields are shutting down, and no other real jobs here on Western Slope....and now we have a government which is endebting our grand kids....just great.
Are things starting to look like a depression yet?"


Way back in the mid 70's I had a teacher that pointed out the only difference between a recession and a depression was the spelling.  His claim was that the choice of words was the financial sector's influence just like the Chamber of Commerce trying to influence bad weather forecasts prior to big weekends.

I wonder if those of us who are self-employed and due a refund, if we could just use the IOU against their 2009 tax payments?

HA! 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 17, 2009, 05:40:52 PM
Quote from: Teresa on February 17, 2009, 05:15:04 PM
You know........It's not about the taxes....it's about the spending. >:(
We have a governor that supports illegals and the Chamber or Commerce owns most of the Rino Republicans, we will be a 3rd world state before long with all the illegals having jobs and Kansan will be out of work.
Pelosi,  Reid and the Obama White House were absolutely certain about one thing for the House/Senate negotiating committee on the Stimulus Bill:
There was to be no special restriction to keep illegal aliens from getting new jobs created by the bill at a cost of $250,000 to $500,000 each.

I had someone e-mail me this article.. and added this comment...
"I wonder how long before other states begin to go broke.  I am a state employee in Colorado, we have already given up a cost of living increase this year, any performance bonuses or incentive awards, are now facing forced furloughs, and in the position that I am in will most likely loose my housing allowance, which will be a hit of $500/month.  I commute in a van pool 180 miles a day and that pool will also most likely go a way which means my expense to commute.  That will entail a much reduced net income.
But the gas fields are shutting down, and no other real jobs here on Western Slope....and now we have a government which is endebting our grand kids....just great.
Are things starting to look like a depression yet?"


Way back in the mid 70's I had a teacher that pointed out the only difference between a recession and a depression was the spelling.  His claim was that the choice of words was the financial sector's influence just like the Chamber of Commerce trying to influence bad weather forecasts prior to big weekends.

I wonder if those of us who are self-employed and due a refund, if we could just use the IOU against their 2009 tax payments?

HA! 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count!  >:( >:(


Go to a cash and carry operation.  Cash leaves no paper trail.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Wilma on February 17, 2009, 05:44:55 PM
Any income tax refund can be applied to the next year's taxes.  There is a line that designates that if you want to do it.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 17, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
Well your right wilma but i think the state ought to get their * together and cut the budget so that they can meet their obligations with what they get.   This reckless spending that is being done is just criminal.   IF theres a 350 million dollar deficit, then theres 350 million dollars that is being spent recklessly.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Jane on February 17, 2009, 06:51:23 PM
Our great Gov. is in Washington sniffing everyones bottom to make sure they know she wants that job. I say take her, she has not helped us. Kansas was in the black when she took office and look at Kansas now. I hope she goes because they were talking about her becoming the next Chancellor at Kansas University. If that happened we would not go to another football game.
Jane
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Wilma on February 17, 2009, 07:31:26 PM
Even though it is possible to apply your tax refund to next year's taxes, I wouldn't do it.  You'd be better off taking the refund and putting it on interest till next year's tax time.  The state doesn't pay interest on your surplus of taxes paid.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: srkruzich on February 17, 2009, 07:44:09 PM
Quote from: Jane Vinette on February 17, 2009, 06:51:23 PM
Our great Gov. is in Washington sniffing everyones bottom to make sure they know she wants that job. I say take her, she has not helped us. Kansas was in the black when she took office and look at Kansas now. I hope she goes because they were talking about her becoming the next Chancellor at Kansas University. If that happened we would not go to another football game.
Jane
Hmm no wonder she hasn't signed the budget.  She's off getting her jollies
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: greatguns on February 17, 2009, 08:55:31 PM
Sounds to me like you are going to get your BIG checks.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Teresa on February 18, 2009, 01:33:32 AM
Well jeepers... you don't have to sound so happy about it..  ::)

Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Warph on February 18, 2009, 02:28:37 AM
Sebelius signs bill to end budget impasse; GOP leaders say they'll release funds

TOPEKA, Kan. - An impasse that held up Kansas income tax refunds and threatened to delay state employees' next paychecks ended Tuesday when Gov. Kathleen Sebelius signed a budget-balancing bill.

From the Wichita Eagle.... Full story: http://www.kansas.com/735/story/702509.html?pageNum=9&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Teresa on February 18, 2009, 11:51:08 AM
First.. how about cutting back on all the political fat cats pensions.. giving them the pay checks that 3/4 of the American population live on and make them totally accountable for all the horrendous wasteful spending that they do..THAT would be a huge help in the debt problem.

I believe those who receive undue welfare...those who are perfectly capable of working and being a productive member of society who CHOOSE out of laziness not to...

I believe it is all the money spent of free health care for for illegal immigrants, the money spent ensuring that those who come to our country NEVER have to adapt to our language, our culture...that we must conform to theirs...

Take all the money spent on those two worthless causes...and you can pay your state EMPLOYEES ( yes they ARE just our employees)  who go to WORK to EARN that paycheck that you TAXPAYERS so eagerly throw in their faces that you pay.

I suppose all the private sector employees should give up their jobs, go to work for the state, to insure that the state can still function safely, to insure that our next generation is still being educated...and by the way, you should do it all for FREE!

Socialism works until you run out of other people's money.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: redcliffsw on February 18, 2009, 11:59:33 AM

Teresa-

Amen to all that.  Stay right in there.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: greatguns on February 18, 2009, 10:22:11 PM
Well, I am happy that anyone who overpaid their taxes and has a refund coming is going to get it in a timely fashion.  I did not mean for it to sound wrong.
Title: Re: Kanas Suspends Income Tax Refunds
Post by: Warph on February 18, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
You may get rid of Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius yet.... Check this out:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius is a leading contender to become the next secretary of the Health and Human Services department, two senior administration officials told CNN. However, the officials stressed that President Obama is still checking out several other potential nominees for the critical job of shepherding his health-care reform plan through Congress.

Rest of story at:  http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/cabinet.sebelius/index.html