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Title: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
I was just wondering if anybody would be interested in a thread about old time skills? It'll give me a reason to stay out of the politics room lol and I am really interested in learning them.

Shoot we may all need to know em before long!

Anyway thought it might be interestin.......tell about old time farmin skills, cooking shortcuts, making things, whatever...
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:10:30 PM
Or maybe there is one I ain't found?
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Post by: Tobina+1 on October 02, 2008, 12:17:55 PM
Very interesting subject. 
I think canning is an old time skill.  I know some people still do it, but I think it's a lost art.  Along with jelly making.  Also, yeast breads.  It's so easy to make quick breads, so not many people take the time to do yeast breads (pound it down, let it raise, pound it down, let it raise).
Also, saw mills.  I think there is someone around Howard/ Elk County that still has a saw mill that they use.  I know Chuck's been there to help make some black walnut boards for Jim, but that'd be interesting to see.
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Post by: Teresa on October 02, 2008, 12:28:20 PM
Very interesting. I do lots of things the old way.. it is a lost art..and one that should be ( and I do) pass it on to our youngins'..
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:29:39 PM
Yeah Tobina! Mom and Granma Smith taught me about cannin and makin bread when I was growin up, now that I'm home I got time to do it again lol.

There are a lot of sawmills down here, a couple of them cut logs for cabin kits and some saw their own lumber for furniture makin.

Do you remember the Foxfire books?

there are things I learned when I was a kid that I've forgot from lack of use, I think it would be interestin to relearn em :)

Dang Teresa got me agian! I definitely gotta learn to type faster :P Yeah, I do too. But I have forgot a lot too :P
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Post by: S-S on October 02, 2008, 12:30:26 PM
There is a beautiful saw mill in Elk Falls. Well, it was beautiful at one time. It's overgrown and neglected now. My step-mother owned it at one time, she still might - not sure.


I think quilting may be an old skill. My grandmother taught me and I will do it til the day I die. I also consider dressmaking an old skill. Seems like people don't want to take the time to do these things anymore.

I can. I canned a ton this year. Some of my friends tease me and say..."You act like you're 50." But, it's something I like. I also make yeast bread and rolls. Doing these "old" things soothe me.  :)
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Post by: Dale Smith on October 02, 2008, 12:42:08 PM
Oh, I love to make bread, the good old fashioned way.  It's a stress-reliever for me. 

My Mom does lots of things that I consider to be an old-time skill. She spends a lot of time, now that she's retired, on quilting.  She's also very good at alot of needlework.  One thing that she does that REALLY seems to be a lost art is Tatting.  It's amazing to watch. 
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
QuoteI think quilting may be an old skill. My grandmother taught me and I will do it til the day I die. I also consider dressmaking an old skill. Seems like people don't want to take the time to do these things anymore.

That's another one! My granma made patchwork comforters out of our old clothes, she used to let me help her cut the pieces. Mom made most of our clothes, I used to sew but didn't for years. Finally got a new machine couple years ago tho (thanks to wallyworlds handy dandy layaway plan :P)

One I would like to learn is blacksmithin! I've got my grandads anvil and some of his tools, I watch RFDtv and learned how to make a forge out of a wheelbarrow pan the other day.

RFDtv is a pretty good place to learn from by the way.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:45:13 PM
I got to admit Dale I don't know what tatting is exactly
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Post by: Lookatmeknow!! on October 02, 2008, 12:47:58 PM
I love to make yeast bread.  I usually just make the regular white, and with it I make either rolls, bread or cinamon rolls.  I also like to bake pies.  I have gotten away from making my own crust, I do if I have time, but I just love making pies.  My grandmother and mom used to make lots of pies, and people tell me all the time how my pies remind them of them.  I do make the cream pies.  Sometimes I just make them and give them to Jeff's mother and grandparents.  They love them.  
I also love to sew.  I am going to make the girl's halloween costumes, and also some pj's for christmas.  I am with you Devyn, not many people like to take the time to do these things.  I do have my girls help me.  The oldest has been sewing for the past 3 years in 4-H.  The first year I helped her, and the last two years Carol Nigh has helped her.  It is a great thing to teach kids these things.  I remember many of days going to my grandmas house and watching her make bread, sew, quilt, can and all that fun stuff.  My grandmother has made and quilted alot of quilts in her time.  She made each of us 11 grandkids quilts when we graduated from High School, and we also each got a quilt top that she had made, we just had to get it quilted.  My aunt also gave me a quilt that my grandma made when Jeff and I got married.  I have a total of 3 quilts that she made.  I like to make quilts also.  Just haven't had time.

There is a saw mill out Killdeer road.  It is David Evans and his fathers.  It is right in front of Rob and Kristin Hutchinson's house.  Across from our old house.  I don't know how much sawing he has done in the past two years since we moved, but he has down alot.  
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:54:32 PM
I would like to learn to make baskets too. I used to make little ones as a kid but they never held up. 

I've been tryin different varieties of heirloom vegetables the last couple years too so I can save seed.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 12:57:26 PM
Geez I gotta get off here and go do somthin constructive lol. I'm glad y'all are interested :)
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Post by: Lookatmeknow!! on October 02, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
I love RFD-TV!!  It is awesome.  I know that here in town, it is not on the cable line up, but Jeff's Grandpa loved it so much, he pays more for it.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: dnalexander on October 02, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
I love to make bread. I just started making jelly\jams. Both taste better homemade and by far better than what I can buy in the store. For those interested in breadmaking it is not as hard as you are led to believe by all the cookbooks. When I started years ago I followed everything very precisely. Now with years of experience I can tell you you can make great bread without all the work. I use SAF-Instant yeast, flour, sugar, Oil\butter, and water\milk. I mix it by hand in an old plastic coffee can for 5 minutes or less till it is smooth(no reall kneading just mixing). I then let is rise for a couple hours till it hits the top of the can. Shape it, rise for 1 hour and bake. Very easy. Sometimes after the first rise (2 hours) I will gently knead the dough and put the can in the fridge overnight for a slow rise and then shape and bake the next day for an even more flavorful bread. Also, make big batches and freeze after firs rise for later use.

David
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Post by: Tobina+1 on October 02, 2008, 01:21:16 PM
We had a great-great aunt who used to tat (not sure if it's got 2 t's?  tatt?).  She taught my sister a long time ago.  I didn't have the patience to sit and learn.  Not sure if my sister remembers or not.  Tatting is kind of like knitting.  A different type of stitch, and I think it makes more lacy appearance.
My sister also learned how to make crusts and pies from my grandma.  The old fashioned LARD kind of crust.  Again, no patience for me (I was out riding horses and teaching steers to lead).
I used to make all sorts of clothes in 4-H.  Now I mostly do craft sewing.  And repairs.  I have a stack of jeans to patch on my sewing table right now.  Maybe when it gets cold...
Some people say leather working is an old time skill.  Or boot/shoe repair.  How often do you get shoes repaired now days?
Even though it's not a physical skill, geneology is something that most people don't do a lot of these days.  Used to, everyone knew how you were related to each other (closer-knit communities, maybe?).  Now, some people don't even know their 1st cousins (or what a 2nd cousin-twice-removed is).
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Jo McDonald on October 02, 2008, 01:37:36 PM
When our girls were little, we had the office for Union LP Gas in our home - and to help with the income I baby sat with 5 other little ones, and at night after the girls were in their Daddy's care I tied fishing flies for a company based in the home of an acquaintance.  I learned to sew (some) in high school - so I started sewing for the girls and as they grew I sewed more and more and when they were in high school I made ALL of the clothes they and those that I wore - and also made a  all wool suit for Fred - all of his sport coats- and western shirts and sewed some for others as well.
Fred's Mother and sister-in-laws all crocheted -- but for the life of me, I could only make a chain stitch so I had yards of belt loops  lol  I have always cooked from scratch - pies - breads and have cooked every wild animal known to be edible.  I was born and raised poor - and Mama and Daddy did every thing the "old fashioned" way - so to me it was the only way.  Regrets???  None !!
  I have some lovely tatted things made lovingly for me by my dear late friend Helen Vinette.  What a talent that is - all those fancy little things made with a tiny shuttle and she could tat - talk to you and have a great time while sitting under the hair dryer at my beauty salon, and never mlake a mistake.
Well -- I have rattled on long enough - nice memories, however.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: S-S on October 02, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
There's still a boot repair shop in Emporia. It's in Jim's Cowboy Shop.


We only pay $2.30 extra for RFDTV, and it sure is worth it. I love to watch their Dutch oven cooking show. I'd like to do that sometime.

My aunt used to make rag rugs. You take long pieces of material and braid them together or somthing like that. It was neat.

I'm sure if I thought about it I could find more old skills I like or would like to learn.

I used to think gardening was oldish, but I hear more and more about people planting different things. There was just an article in my gardening magazine this month about people who live in apartment complexes raising vegetables in "container" gardens.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Tobina+1 on October 02, 2008, 01:45:49 PM
Hey!  Maybe we can get ClubineRanch to post her Dutch oven peach cobbler recipe that she served at the table decorating contest last spring!  (Post it in the recipes section, though, Barb, so we can find it easily.)
There used to be a shoe repair shop in Eldorado, but the man passed away and it's closed now.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: flo on October 02, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
I can count the number of clothes my girls had "off the rack" when they were in grade school on one hand.  I made all their clothes.  After they got in high school seems they always had trouble finding a prom dress like they wanted so..... off to the fabric department and pattern department and I'd alter it like they wanted it.  I crochet and knit, but never mastered tatting.  It is such pretty work.  I've tried to get interested in quilting, but can't seem to get into it.  Counted cross-stitch is something else I used to enjoy.  Basket making really sounds like fun.  Pam, Elbert and Irene learned to make baskets during one winter's "snow-bird" in Texas.  They made several "gizzard" baskets that were really neat.  Now ya all have made me hanker to get out my new sewing machine.  Or could finish the two or three things I've got started knitting, or a couple of crocheted projects that have been started.  On second thought  think I'll just go have a cup of coffee (made the old fashioned way in my elec. drip coffeemaker) or I could grind some coffee beans and . . .  ::)  but gave Pam my antique coffee grinder.  NO PROBLEM, I got an elec. one.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Jo McDonald on October 02, 2008, 02:26:06 PM
Our winters spent in Texas have shown me more "skills" of all kinds than I even imagined.  One of my friends from New Mexico wove baskets of all kinds from pine needles.  Awesome !!!  She gave me the instrctions- some nice long needles that she gathered in Georgia - and got me started and I made maybe five or six inches on one.  Jeeze - I need to learn to finish when I start --- but just seem to want to try  - then go flying off to something new.  Yawnnn~ ~ ~ They were truly works of art.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: littlelamb on October 02, 2008, 02:26:50 PM
a few weeks ago i caned peaches and apple pie filling for the first time and love every minute of it i crochet and embrodery and now making a crochet pattern that looks like a quilt when you get done. my husbands mother made a butiefull hand sown butterflly quilt and made each hand embrodried butterfly and its just amazing
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 02:39:23 PM
QuoteSome people say leather working is an old time skill.

I used to tool belts and stuff when I was in 4H, it's really enjoyable. Few years ago I was making purses and medicine bags out of deerskin, I'd like to get started on that again.

What's a gizzard basket Ma?

I've seen those pine needle baskets Jo, they are really beautiful!

Granma taught me how to make rag rugs, I made a few, I have a problem with patience tho.

Somthin I used to do that I would really love to do again is beading, I used to make chokers and stuff in highschool.
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Post by: dnalexander on October 02, 2008, 03:13:18 PM
This show was on TV while I was reading the forum topic about old time skills. Here is how a man in the middle of L.A. earns a living from "farming" his lot. Even us city boys need those old time skills.

David

http://www.californiaheartland.org/this_season/episode_908/path_to_freedom.htm

Jules Dervaes and his three adult children all live and work together on their family farm in Pasadena, CA (Los Angeles). They call themselves, "eco-pioneers." They say it's a homegrown revolution that's taking place, a way for them to get back to a more natural, organic and better way of life. Their mission? To change the world one urban backyard at a time.

California Heartland's Jennifer Quinonez visits the Dervaes' home where at the helm is Jules, a man whose vision wasn't so clear 23 years ago when he bought the 1917 California bungalow for his family. All he knew was that the cost of keeping of a green, but barely usable front yard, was a waste of money and resources. He began taking action and made a shift in the way he lives in an urban city. By clearing out the grass and planting an edible garden, the change began.

In 1991, Jules discovered a way to profit from his garden. Area teahouses were in need for his edible flowers, and that's when he realized he could make money out of his hobby. But biggest change in his life happened in 2001. When buying organic food became too expensive and difficult to find, and genetically altered food started hitting the market, Jules took matters into his own hands and began "Path to Freedom."

At this little urban homestead in the big city, the family produces 6,000 pounds of organic produce a year. It's amazing that their home is on a 1/5 acre and their garden is only on 1/10 acre! The front yard is 95% edible and the rest of the main planters are in the backyard. Every corner is used to grow food. Jules says he doesn't need more space; he just needs to be a smarter gardener. He looks to the Japanese and Europeans for guidance, those who for thousands of years have had to grow food in a small space. In his garden, or "micro-farm" as he prefers, you'll find more than 350 different vegetables, herbs, fruits, and berries.

In addition to planning crops, the family is truly living an eco friendly lifestyle. They are proud that their energy usage is only 6.5 kilowatt hours a day, and continues to decrease. They make their own biodiesel for their one truck and they also have an outdoor shower for summertime use.

This is now a full-time job for Jules and his three children, who sell their produce to area restaurants. They've also expanded into education outreach, started an online store to sell garden & eco-friendly materials and are making it their goal to get people to change their attitude about food. They say, "Food is power, the more we grow ourselves, the better."


Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Catwoman on October 02, 2008, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: dnalexander on October 02, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
I love to make bread. I just started making jelly\jams. Both taste better homemade and by far better than what I can buy in the store. For those interested in breadmaking it is not as hard as you are led to believe by all the cookbooks. When I started years ago I followed everything very precisely. Now with years of experience I can tell you you can make great bread without all the work. I use SAF-Instant yeast, flour, sugar, Oil\butter, and water\milk. I mix it by hand in an old plastic coffee can for 5 minutes or less till it is smooth(no reall kneading just mixing). I then let is rise for a couple hours till it hits the top of the can. Shape it, rise for 1 hour and bake. Very easy. Sometimes after the first rise (2 hours) I will gently knead the dough and put the can in the fridge overnight for a slow rise and then shape and bake the next day for an even more flavorful bread. Also, make big batches and freeze after firs rise for later use.

David
You're a gem, David...how do you avoid the marital trap?  You appear to be the last perfect man left on earth! ;) ;) Next thing you'll tell us is that you can what you grow...Oh, be still my foolish heart! :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: greatguns on October 02, 2008, 03:51:25 PM
I believe the one thing that I do that is becoming a lost art is dressing a chicken.  Pam, my boss at Sigma-Tek is a blacksmith.  I 've never thought canning and making jelly was lost.  I do know the women at work make fun of me for cooking from scratch.  But o well.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: dnalexander on October 02, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: greatguns on October 02, 2008, 03:51:25 PM
  I do know the women at work make fun of me for cooking from scratch.  But o well.

I'm guessing that those folks at work don't eat as well as you do.

David

Catwoman, I am far from perfect. I just like to eat well. My mom had three boys and all are very good cooks.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: flo on October 02, 2008, 03:56:38 PM
a "gizzard basket" has a reed around the middle from side to side that kinda pulls the middle up.  Each side looks like the two sides of a gizzard or perhaps (whispering very quietly  ;) two large buttocks)
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Catwoman on October 02, 2008, 04:45:55 PM
Well, speaking of gizzards, like was previously stated, the art of scalding/plucking chickens is a fast dying art...there are those with weak constitutions who moan and groan about the smell making them sick but I've never found it that objectionable.  A few of my friends raise chickens...I am given eggs in exchange for my being willing to help them get their culls 'processed'...and I'm given my choice of parts to take home and enjoy...there's nothing better than home-raised chicken! :laugh:
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: srkruzich on October 02, 2008, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: dnalexander on October 02, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
I love to make bread. I just started making jelly\jams. Both taste better homemade and by far better than what I can buy in the store. For those interested in breadmaking it is not as hard as you are led to believe by all the cookbooks. When I started years ago I followed everything very precisely. Now with years of experience I can tell you you can make great bread without all the work. I use SAF-Instant yeast, flour, sugar, Oil\butter, and water\milk. I mix it by hand in an old plastic coffee can for 5 minutes or less till it is smooth(no reall kneading just mixing). I then let is rise for a couple hours till it hits the top of the can. Shape it, rise for 1 hour and bake. Very easy. Sometimes after the first rise (2 hours) I will gently knead the dough and put the can in the fridge overnight for a slow rise and then shape and bake the next day for an even more flavorful bread. Also, make big batches and freeze after firs rise for later use.

David

I just made elderberry jelly a couple weeks ago, making apple jelly, apple butter, and still have some strawberry jam and blackberry jam from last year i made :)

Got a whole pot of home made home grown chicken noodle soup in the kitchen, I made noodles from scratch too. :)

Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Catwoman on October 02, 2008, 05:04:04 PM
I love to make homemade egg noodles, too...they taste so much better than the store variety. 
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Post by: pam on October 02, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: flo on October 02, 2008, 03:56:38 PM
a "gizzard basket" has a reed around the middle from side to side that kinda pulls the middle up.  Each side looks like the two sides of a gizzard or perhaps (whispering very quietly  ;) two large buttocks)

Oh, Ok I've seen those before. I'd like to know how to make em.

Greatguns, My favorite thing about Silver Dollar City was watchin the blacksmith...I learned how to weld in jucco and really enjoy makin stuff , would really like to have the knowledge to do it on the forge. Would come in pretty handy too, not to mention I could make all that stuff I can't afford lol
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Post by: gmaof3 on October 02, 2008, 05:33:37 PM
I remember bein at g'ma and g'pa smith's and butcherin chickens.  The whole family would come and it was an all day affair.  I don't know how many they butchered in a day but to me it seemed like hundreds.  LOL  of course it was us kid's job to pluck em after they dunked em.  Remember them also butchering their meat, and the smell of the hams and bacon curing.  Much nicer smell than that of the chickens!!!!!
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 03, 2008, 07:41:50 AM
QuoteI don't know how many they butchered in a day but to me it seemed like hundreds.

I remember one time it WAS like 150 or 200 or em wasn't it?lol Those ones with all the black pin feathers!

Yeah Grandpa could cure a mean ham and bacon!
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: DanCookson on October 03, 2008, 08:21:54 AM
Something I have always wanted to learn to do was tan and treat fur hides. 

I have friends that have tanned some cowhides and they are awesome.  I have another friend who had a beaver tanned and have seen and felt things like deer hides, bobcat, coyote, and raccoon hides tanned and they are awesome.

Leather working interests me as well, as I know many of the local cowboys make much of their own tack.  I think Tobina even put a picture of one of Chucks saddles on here once.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: dnalexander on October 03, 2008, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: DanCookson on October 03, 2008, 08:21:54 AM
Something I have always wanted to learn to do was tan and treat fur hides. 

I have friends that have tanned some cowhides and they are awesome.  I have another friend who had a beaver tanned and have seen and felt things like deer hides, bobcat, coyote, and raccoon hides tanned and they are awesome.

Leather working interests me as well, as I know many of the local cowboys make much of their own tack.  I think Tobina even put a picture of one of Chucks saddles on here once.

I would love to learn how to make cowboy boots and work leather. Seems like it might be a little expensive to start, but boy the satisfaction would be fantastic. I love seeing Chucks saddles they are definitely a work of art. Tobina any more pictures of Chuck's art?

David

David
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 03, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
QuoteI have friends that have tanned some cowhides and they are awesome.  I have another friend who had a beaver tanned and have seen and felt things like deer hides, bobcat, coyote, and raccoon hides tanned and they are awesome.

there's a store over in Commerce where they have all kinds of cured skins, that's where I get the deerskin to make my bags. Curin em is one of those things that I know how to do it I just never have :P
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Clubine Ranch on October 03, 2008, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: Tobina on October 02, 2008, 01:45:49 PM
QuoteHey!  Maybe we can get ClubineRanch to post her Dutch oven peach cobbler recipe that she served at the table decorating contest last spring!  (Post it in the recipes section, though, Barb, so we can find it easily.)



Thanks, looked it up and posted it in the recipe section.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Catwoman on October 03, 2008, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: pam on October 03, 2008, 02:42:32 PM
QuoteI have friends that have tanned some cowhides and they are awesome.  I have another friend who had a beaver tanned and have seen and felt things like deer hides, bobcat, coyote, and raccoon hides tanned and they are awesome.

there's a store over in Commerce where they have all kinds of cured skins, that's where I get the deerskin to make my bags. Curin em is one of those things that I know how to do it I just never have :P
Along with leatherworking is the craft of making furniture.  I absolutely love heavy wood furniture, carved with embellishments.  I have long wanted to learn how to create furniture but have never had the time to do it...it takes too much time to chase kids!
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Post by: pam on October 04, 2008, 07:11:36 AM
This kinda goes along with the leather and tack, I've always wanted to learn to hitch horsehair. I've tried to teach myself but needless to say I ain't come up with anything to brag about lol. Everytime I thin my one horses mane I look at the pile of hair and think if I just knew how to do that I could make some really cool stuff:P My one mare has the thickest waviest mane I've ever seen, it turns into a big bush if I don't do somthin to it.

My Dad built furniture Catwoman, for years him and ma refinished and fixed antique furniture and he would take a big pile of busted up stuff and by the time he was done you would never believe it had been in a box when he started lol. He started teachin Josh before he got sick, I have an oak cabinet they built together, means more to me than anything else I have. He also built my round oak table out of parts of parts. It's a good skill to have!
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: pam on October 06, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
Was just readin back and there is a LOT of knowledge on this forum!

Lot of ya talkin about havin to pay extra for RFDtv, I'm lucky it's part of the line-up on our cable thru the phone company! Think if you had never seen a horse before you could train one just from watchin all the different guys on there. The campfire cookin shows are really good too, and Rural Heritage, And Texas country reporter.........lol, they are just all pretty good shows.
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Post by: Tobina+1 on October 06, 2008, 09:40:09 PM
Here is Saddle #2 for Chuck, which he finished in May.  We just got back from the Boot and Saddlemaker's Tradeshow this weekend down in Wichita Falls, TX (that's why I've been away from here), and it was really fun!  Boot making is a lost art, I think.  And not something you can get into very cheaply, either!  Just like saddlemaking, I suppose.  Luckily, Chuck has made a lot of his own benches and tools, so that helped with the startup cost.  Over the summer, he made a lot of tack for other people.  Smaller projects when the evenings and nights were shorter.  Now he plans to get started on Saddle #3 very soon (over the winter when he has more time).  The saddles he makes are "working" saddles, and nothing too fancy.  He wants to get into a little more tooling, but that takes a LOT of time and patience!  You should have seen some of the saddles at the tradeshow that were in the saddle contest... simply breathtaking carving/stamping!
Chuck has a DVD of how hides are tanned and turned into leather, so if anyone wants to borrow it to watch just let us know!  Again, I don't think it's a cheap (or chemical-free) process to get into, though.
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: dnalexander on October 06, 2008, 09:48:28 PM
Fancy things are pretty, but there is a beauty in  a working saddle. I think the one in the picture is a good example. That saddle is beautiful and a work of art.

David
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Teresa on October 06, 2008, 10:04:34 PM
I like roughed out rawhide in my saddle seat..
Keeps me glued better when my horse decides to give everyone a free rodeo..  ;D
Title: Re: Old time skills....
Post by: Tobina+1 on October 06, 2008, 10:15:30 PM
Well... put your order in and you can custom design your saddle seat anyway you see "fit"!  Chuck hasn't done any roughout yet, but we saw one saddle in the competition this weekend that was all roughout.  It was kind of a gray-ish brown leather, too, so it looked "old".
Thanks, David!  I'll keep everyone supplied with picts of all the new leather projects.  He's got an order for chaps and a few other things, along with the saddle.

Back to the other skills... how about wicker weaving?  You know, like putting in seats to chairs and such.  Or willow furniture?  I admire people who have the skills and patience to do that!
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Post by: pam on October 07, 2008, 06:43:10 AM
I'm with DN I like plain workin saddles better too. That ones nice Tobina :) I have one that's all roughout, my granpa bought it out of a guys barn like 40 years ago or so and it's still useable. He had Pete Frost go thru it when he brought it home and fix what needed fixin. I don't know if anybody even remembers Pete or not.

Y'know I think Mom can do that seat caning Tobina, seems like I remember her doin some chairs before.
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Post by: Rudy Taylor on October 07, 2008, 06:50:23 AM
I just wish I could still swing up into a saddle. I spent lots of my youth riding, even into my 20s and 30s, but I'm afraid I'd have to use a footstool to get aboard today.

Beautiful work, Tobina and Chuck!
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Post by: Tobina+1 on October 07, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
No worries, Rudy... "gentlemen" and "ladies" used to use stepstools or attendants to get upon their horses.  Or we can just find you a shorter horse.  ;D

Thank you, Pam.  "Caning" is the word I was looking for.  My mom has an old rocking chair that I have fond memories of, but it needs a new caned seat and back.  I thought about doing it in leather.  It might not have the same "squeak", though.

Braiding horsehair is another lost art.  We went to the Cowboy Museum in OKC on the way home on Saturday, and they had a special exhibit there of saddles, horsehair braiding, and silversmithing.  Talk about works of art!  Everything was for sale, but the cheapest thing was a set of spur straps for about $800.  There was a pair of silver etched spurs there for over $34,000!  Some of the horsehair braided bozels and other tack was well over $10K.
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Post by: pam on October 07, 2008, 11:45:53 AM

QuoteBraiding horsehair is another lost art.  We went to the Cowboy Museum in OKC on the way home on Saturday, and they had a special exhibit there of saddles, horsehair braiding, and silversmithing.  Talk about works of art!  Everything was for sale, but the cheapest thing was a set of spur straps for about $800.  There was a pair of silver etched spurs there for over $34,000!  Some of the horsehair braided bozels and other tack was well over $10K.

Holy cow! Maybe I better get a little more serious about learnin how!
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Post by: pam on October 07, 2008, 01:24:54 PM
seein Dales recipe for acorn muffins on another thread brought to mind another skill. Wild food! I know a few but would like to know MUCH more! That is truly a skill that would be very handy to have.
I've been mushroom huntin and I've eaten poke and dandelions, used wild garlic to cook with, have recipes for sumac lemonade although I've never actually made any, gathered wild sage,wild rose hips, don't have much knowledge compared to what's out there to know.
I have heard it said that God put a cure for every disease on the earth, just not very many people who remember or try to learn anymore.
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Post by: Tobina+1 on October 07, 2008, 02:18:23 PM
Traditional Cowboy Artist Association is the exhibit at the Cowboy museum.  Here's the link to the pictures of all the items this year. 
http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org/events/tcaa/onlinecatalog/Catalog.aspx (http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org/events/tcaa/onlinecatalog/Catalog.aspx)
If you click on any of the names, you can see more detailed information about each piece, including the sale price.
Most of the braiding is rawhide braiding, not horsehair.  For some reason, I thought there is a guy somewhere around here who does horsehair braiding?  Chuck made a bridle for someone who brought us some tassles (bobbers) to put on it that this man had braided.
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Post by: frawin on October 07, 2008, 02:24:38 PM
Yes, I remember Pete Frost, his daughter's name was Jessie.  She is a little younger than I. 
Myrna
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Post by: pam on October 07, 2008, 03:00:08 PM
Yeah Frank, I didn't know if anybody remembered him or not. My grandad and him were friends. he was an old cowboy just like grandad.

Thanks for the link Tobina!
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Post by: pam on October 07, 2008, 03:05:11 PM
 
QuoteI thought there is a guy somewhere around here who does horsehair braiding?

I don't know, think there used to be a guy up around Cassoday but don't remember for sure.

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Post by: pam on October 08, 2008, 09:35:27 AM
Talkin about this in the coffee thread....a skill worth havin is makin campfire coffee, there ain't nothin better lol
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Post by: Catwoman on October 10, 2008, 07:52:23 PM
Oh yes, there is...roasting marshmallows over the fire, too! :laugh:
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Post by: srkruzich on October 16, 2008, 03:45:25 PM
Yall ever built a post and beam building using mortise and tenon joints and other types of joints and only wooden pegs to hold it all together?  :) Built a couple sheds and barns that way.

Make your own milkpaint, all kinds of preservation of things.
:)
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Post by: pam on October 16, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on October 16, 2008, 03:45:25 PM
Yall ever built a post and beam building using mortise and tenon joints and other types of joints and only wooden pegs to hold it all together?  :) Built a couple sheds and barns that way.

Make your own milkpaint, all kinds of preservation of things.
:)


Nope, Srk, I've watched it bein done but never done it myself. Milkpaint was makin a comeback a few years ago but haven't heard much about it lately. Bet you got lots of stuff stored up there in your head you could teach people  :)
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Post by: srkruzich on October 16, 2008, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: pam on October 16, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on October 16, 2008, 03:45:25 PM
Yall ever built a post and beam building using mortise and tenon joints and other types of joints and only wooden pegs to hold it all together?  :) Built a couple sheds and barns that way.

Make your own milkpaint, all kinds of preservation of things.
:)


Nope, Srk, I've watched it bein done but never done it myself. Milkpaint was makin a comeback a few years ago but haven't heard much about it lately. Bet you got lots of stuff stored up there in your head you could teach people  :)
Oh a few things but i also have dvd full of books from the 1800's that show how it was done back then. 
Heck i can even make my own fireworks with the recipes that are in there. :)

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Post by: pam on October 16, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
Cool, I bet you read countryside/small stock journal huh? I have checked out some of the books they list...lot of stuff you can use!
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Post by: srkruzich on October 16, 2008, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: pam on October 16, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
Cool, I bet you read countryside/small stock journal huh? I have checked out some of the books they list...lot of stuff you can use!
Hmm haven't read them.  I get a lot of my information from the mennonite librum in bluemont Virginia.  :)
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Post by: Lookatmeknow!! on October 17, 2008, 06:28:23 AM
Milk painting how interesting! Never heard of it.  It probably didn't make a come back because the price of milk has gone up so.  And not to many people have milk animals around here to try!!
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Post by: flo on October 17, 2008, 06:49:57 AM
 :-\ :-\ :-\ you paint anything with milkbase paint, don't ask me to strip it - been there, done that, and OMG what a slimey mess to get off.
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Post by: Joanna on October 17, 2008, 07:07:03 AM
also it stinks...