When I became a member the first time, I thought the forum had a lot going for it and it was a great place to read and post. But as the old saying goes "All good things must come to an end." And in my opinion, the forum has been rapidly disintegrating!!! In the past couple of years, smut and trashy language seems to have infiltrated the posts, along with slamming, insults, disrespectful of others, etc.
Although the forum still does perform a public service in letting people know what is happening in the area, that's about the only thing positive I can think of to say at the moment, because I am too disgusted with the negative things that are happening on here. It's time for some folks to "clean up their act!!!" Let's try and make this site a positive and "clean" place to visit, or more folks will be quitting. (And you wonder why)
I think at times we all feel that way and sometimes we do cross the line. I think if you look at the forum as a whole and compare it to others we are way better than most. Try to let the bad roll off and embrace the good things. It is good for you to say this though and I think we will all take notice and modify some of our behavior. Speaking for myself but knowing the other good people of the forum will do the same. Stick around.You will miss us when your are gone. ;D
David
Ding Dong, If I have in any way offended you somehow, I sincerely apologize.
Ditto.
Diane, Catwoman, how could you possibly offend? I just hope that my dissatisfaction with some things hasn't been found offensive, because I am finding a lot of the posts, especially the Politics, not to my liking. Once it has been said, there is no need to say it again and that is what a lot of the posts have been doing. I have quit reading the Politics for the most part and hope that when the election is over that the Forum will go back to the friendly, informative, neighborly place that it used to be.
Ding Dong.. are you only referring to the politics board?
I see no other board that has any differences of opinion on the strong side what so ever..
Is this the board to which you are referring?
I have stated this a few times already.. If there is a board that you do not like.. and the Politics board seems to be the one that ruffles the most feathers... then do not open that door to that "room".
Do not judge the forum as a "whole" by the one board ( or room) that you do not care for. The forum is a big place ( big for our area, anyway) and there are areas I do not frequent only to check to make sure the software is running smoothly.. but I do not want to quit coming into the forum because of those couple boards.
But each one of us has to do what we have to do.. I hope you stay and post in the boards that you like being in..I for one enjoy what you have had to say.. :)
Ding. GET A LIFE. IF YOU WANT TRASH TALK> JUST GIVE ME A REASON. You haven't seen anything yet.
There is a difference between trash talk and just plain old talk. Try it for a while. Get engaged with someone. Offer a differing opinion. Debate something. It is a great way to communicate. Where else can you get input from both coasts at the same time.....
Right or wrong keep, Writing and wronging. AS far as people quitting there are over 430 reasons that you are not on target. I don't see that number getting smaller.
A city builds a bridge. The guy on the left says it is about time. The guy on the right say why are they spending my tax money on such a silly thing, there is a bridge just two miles down. The gal in the middle with the pregnate daughter says a least now I can get to a hospital before the election. Who benifits from the complaining?
Go watch tv.
I think that what is meant by "trash talk" is offensive phrases that are not considered profanity but are offensive. It has been said that if we find it offensive, leave it alone. How long do we leave it alone before this forum turns into what some of you say other forums are?
I have noticed that some of our members are not posting much anymore. I know of some that have said that they don't find the forum what it used to be. They don't enjoy it because they don't know when they are going to have to skip a post because of the language. We are not having the fun we used to have. Why should anyone quit the forum because they find some of it in bad taste? Don't they have the right to read a thread without being subjected to "trash talk"? Politics is the worse about this but don't we have the right to read the threads for the good information without having to close our ears to talk that we would never use or allow to be used in our homes? These offensive phrases do not add anything to the information or opinion, only to the reader's opinion of the writer's character. And, boy, what it does to my opinion of the writer!
There, I have said it and I didn't even mention the bad grammar or poor spelling.
Quote from: Wilma on September 04, 2008, 02:16:13 PM
I think that what is meant by "trash talk" is offensive phrases that are not considered profanity but are offensive. It has been said that if we find it offensive, leave it alone. How long do we leave it alone before this forum turns into what some of you say other forums are?
I have noticed that some of our members are not posting much anymore. I know of some that have said that they don't find the forum what it used to be. They don't enjoy it because they don't know when they are going to have to skip a post because of the language. We are not having the fun we used to have. Why should anyone quit the forum because they find some of it in bad taste? Don't they have the right to read a thread without being subjected to "trash talk"? Politics is the worse about this but don't we have the right to read the threads for the good information without having to close our ears to talk that we would never use or allow to be used in our homes? These offensive phrases do not add anything to the information or opinion, only to the reader's opinion of the writer's character. And, boy, what it does to my opinion of the writer!
There, I have said it and I didn't even mention the bad grammar or poor spelling.
Wilma, that is saying it as good as it can be said, I think you worded it very tactfully but also made the point very clear.
Hey Teresa, I'm gettin tired of dodgin rocks the last couple days :P LOL I'm not gonna apologize for being myself so think I'm gonna move it on down the road. I hope you keep in touch :)
Wilma, fancy grammar and good spelling doesn't make somebody better or smarter or more worth knowing than somebody who can't spell for nothin and say things like ain't and tits up or whatever else y'all took offense to.
Ding-dong, same goes to you. Both of ya know exactly who I am and where I live, if your ever in my neck of the woods stop for some coffee and conversation. Be pleased to have ya. Same goes for all the people I've enjoyed talkin to.
Maybe I'm bein a little fly off the handle here, but I'm cleanin up your forum by removin myself lol I like plainspeakin too much to censur myself at this late date, took me too long to get over never sayin ANYthing :) I need to get off here and do somthin constructive any way. Peace, y'all
Let those who are without sin cast the first stone. :angel:
Whether it be grammar.. or spelling or choice of words ( to some ..a few choice juicy words are NOT the end of the world) and I have said before .. I WILL NOT police this forum with an iron hand.
Grown adults in a grown up world in a grown up forum should be able to deal with some differences of character.
This forum is so mild in all ways that I find it almost amusing that some thinks it is full of smut and insults.
It is not.. It is merely differences of opinion from many differences of "people."
I will say it again. ...................
Close knit people in small towns bicker and differ in many ways.
I will put myself on the chopping block here and say this.
Six dogs mom and I couldn't be any more opposite ""in the political field" if one of us lived on the Planet Mars.
We bicker.. we fuss at each other.. we will NEVER agree in that area. I don't dislike her at all. I do not know her.. have never met her... but I can say that just because of our verbal disagreements.. we still probably do lots of things the same way and enjoy lots of the same activities.
Another one in the political side is Stacy Howell. She is like one of my own. I love her dearly and would walk across nails if I thought she was in need of anything.
Do I think she is full of Horse poo poo in her political views? Yesssireee.. :D LOL But she thinks I am too..We both make no bones about it... but still laugh and hug and have a heck of a good time when we are all together.. So we can feel free to tell each other that in a nice way of course.. ;)
Pam and I are on the same page more than anyone knows.. even though we are on different sides of the fence.( and if push ever came to shove in real life.. I would darn sure want her in my corner)
It is the same with everyone in a way......it's just spread out with all of us here on this forum.
What I am saying is it's okay to disagree and be passionate about disagreements.. No one is calling names.. No one is talking smack or trash on anyone personally in particular that is posting.
At the end of the day.. I can bet you my kitchen stove that anyone of us who are making big speeches, waving our arms and talking strong talk could call the person who is in direct opposition of them and if that person needed ANYTHING.. the other one would be there in a minute to help. ..regardless if they had met that person or not.
So I don't think the forum has "disintegrated". I think we are getting more diverse people and personality's..and you all must keep in mind that the more comfortable you become with people .. the more you feel comfortable about being the real you. Which means being able to say some things that you might not say if the forum was a room full of strangers.
What is offensive to some is not to others... and I don't think anyone can set back and say that they are "all that" and can judge those others who they think are not up to their 'standards".
Every single one of us ( including Wilma ) makes spelling errors and doesn't use the exact correct grammar every single time they talk or write. I mean.. come one.. if you haven't said the word damn or hell or any other loose word.. then you obviously are a better person that I am.
Again.. the forum is made up of several boards.. and there is something for everyone here.
IF.. you are the one who thinks it isn't fun anymore... maybe YOU should start some fun threads.. post more in the ones you enjoy and make it fun and not depend on those around you to keep it a place where you want to be.
That's all for now............My engine is clattering and my oil is low.. and I need to shut up for awhile and refuel.. after all.. I can't run out of steam yet.. Six dogs and Pam will gather steam and hammer my candidates to flattened mush if I don't stay on top of things. LOL LOL
Have a good Thursday everyone.. ;D ;D
Pam......... I was typing when you posted.. but please.. feel free to take a break and come back in...
I take breaks ever so often.. and it does a body good.
I will respect whatever your decision is.. and I understand how you feel. I think that anyone who has very strong opinions and are not afraid to be themselves around "everyone".. well... some just don;t know how to deal with it.
I think that you have had to dodge rocks this past week. and I am proud of you for dodging and coming back strong.
I say " Don't change".. You are real and there isn't a phony bone in your body.
And that is more than I can say for lots of people I know.
Hope to see you back in the forum real soon.
Teresa
Pam...Please, please don't leave completely. I have so enjoyed listening to you and getting to read your posts...you are exactly the type of person that I would normally go out and get a beer with...and I really regret never getting to know you while I lived in Elk County. I have a feeling that we would have been friends. You are entitled to say your piece, just as much as anyone else is...and those who are being judgemental need to lighten up. Of all the things there are to be REALLY worried about in this world, this isn't one that even makes a half-way good blip on a radar screen. I sure hope you return soon...you add the colors to this white page that makes it interesting!!!!!!!!
I don't think that you should leave either Pam. I am kinda the type of person unless you really offend me or upset me, I just sit back and read. But you leaving kinda upsets me. I think that like Teresa said, we are all entitled to our opinions. If you don't like what someone says, just skip it. That's my opinion. I really don't like the threads about Palin's daughter being pregnant. I just skipped them. I didn't even look at them. It just upsets me thinking about it. But don't leave this forum Pam because you have never offended me, I don't think that you offended anyone. So, we all slip and say bad words once in a while. I always think this way, people can judge me if they want, but the true one judge is in heaven. And if they don't like what someone has to say, they don't have to read it. RIGHT PEP!!! By the way, I think that PEP post are so funny and off the wall!! Sometimes, I even laugh!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Whatever makes Pam think that rocks are being thrown at her? I don't find her name mentioned, but if the shoe fits....
Pam--I've enjoyed your posts. I don't always agree, but that's what makes it so interesting. Hope you reconsider.
I hate to see anyone leave the forum for any reason. Agree or disagree with the persons opinions I hope we all do our best to keep people from leaving the forum. If we all agreed it would be very boring and we would never expand our knowledge. Whatever we can do to keep all voices I hope we do. Listen to all and change what you can.
Pam take a break and come back. The forum is less without you or any of our members.
David
Ding-Dong hang in with us too. Listen to all and do what you can to keep all voices. We all benefit.
David
This is for those forum people that think everying posted should be according to their guidelines. Please remember that there has only been one perfect person to walk this earth and they crucified Him and to my knowledge no-one has been appointed to take his place.
I find our Coffee Shop posts to be fun, informative and relaxing.
I've never once seen anything I considered to be trashy. In fact, it's not unusual at all to see prayer requests or posts about friends who are experiencing illness or other challenges.
I recently made the comment that the forum has been a positive influence on Elk County communities, helping to pull them together and allowing its citizens to vent their frustrations. But at the same time, they are proposing ideas that will help keep it a viable place to live and work.
I personally don't visit the Politics and Religions categories, but that's my personal choice. I like to read the Coffee Shop, sometimes post, then feel good when I turn off my computer.
Hang in there, everybody.
We're a good "us."
Whatever set off this little flurry, I'll just say what my late mother would have said, "Lets all come back and sit down at the table and finish dinner. We'll all feel better later."
Quote from: Ding-Dong on September 03, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
When I became a member the first time, I thought the forum had a lot going for it and it was a great place to read and post. But as the old saying goes "All good things must come to an end." And in my opinion, the forum has been rapidly disintegrating!!! In the past couple of years, smut and trashy language seems to have infiltrated the posts, along with slamming, insults, disrespectful of others, etc.
Although the forum still does perform a public service in letting people know what is happening in the area, that's about the only thing positive I can think of to say at the moment, because I am too disgusted with the negative things that are happening on here. It's time for some folks to "clean up their act!!!" Let's try and make this site a positive and "clean" place to visit, or more folks will be quitting. (And you wonder why)
Since you have only been a member for about a month, please give the forum a little more time and keep an open mind. I don't see the trash talk or for that matter any bad language. I do see people kid around with each other because they are or have been close friends in the past. Take PEP and Flint. Known each other since they were kids and love barbing each other. Many are like that.
The politics thread should only be entered with the thickest of skin!!!
Hang with us a while and get the feel for it and I think you will find it an excellent place to get information, help, or just to exchange ideas.
Dan
Oh hell. I got mad yesterday, few people got under my skin, figured I better get out of dodge or I was gonna tell somebody what I thought for real lol. Ma and dad taught me to be polite even when I'd just as soon tell somebody exactly what I think, I'm a straight out person if I have a problem with ya I'll either avoid you or tell you. My posts are basically me thinkin out loud. I don't sweat grammar,spelling or slightly off color. Personally I don't sweat outright cussin, bluer the better, best stress relief they ever invented in my opinion. I'm not worried about what my manner of speech does to anybodies opinion of me, either you like me or you don't. Still gonna take a vacation, got about ten thousand projects needin my attention, I was truly shocked by the response to this, I truly appreciate everybodies thoughts. Peace, Pam