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Title: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on July 28, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
 :D  Should I start in on the Free part first..... The Longton part........ or the fair..........



Please take the fair.   I would pay someone to just take the stupid thing so that we can get over it and start working towards something positive.   

Free ..... the other fair hasn't charged since I was 12.   So get over it.  If they did charge who would pay to see it?

Longton you have a great tight nit community thriving with gogetters and have to potential to have the best fair in the state.   I think you show the rest of the state how to put on a bean feed. 


I have one question where are all the deer that you are the capitol of?   I have never hit one in the Longton area but have replace 4 radiators out west of town.  Grill guards only give them air to take out your windshield.





Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: srkruzich on July 28, 2008, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: pepelect on July 28, 2008, 06:52:02 PM


I have one question where are all the deer that you are the capitol of?   I have never hit one in the Longton area but have replace 4 radiators out west of town.  Grill guards only give them air to take out your windshield.



I was out last night driving my new 1969 pickup truck :P yeah i know its new to me and all original, and a deer decided to play kamikazi with me.  I barely missed that sucker.  Sure is hard to bring that ole truck to a stop without power steering and power brakes on one of these jagged edged graveled freshly graded including the boxes of nails for added traction in the elk county road! 
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: flo on July 28, 2008, 10:36:33 PM

Quote from: pepelect on July 28, 2008, 06:52:02 PM

jagged edged graveled freshly graded including the boxes of nails for added traction in the elk county road! 


when I worked at the Severy Co-op it was always a joke that "they must have graded the roads" cause there would be an abundance of "tire repair" tickets from the station. :-\
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: sixdogsmom on July 28, 2008, 10:49:27 PM
So how much does a hammer mill of the variety that chews up rocks of a size to protect tires cost? Maybe that could be a county option?
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Tobina+1 on July 29, 2008, 12:55:03 PM
Hmmm.  I always blamed it on David Helms!  I thought he went around the county spilling nails to increase his business.  Maybe the nails got too expensive.
But funny... my tire issues haven't decreased since he left... just ask my new best friend, Damian!
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on July 30, 2008, 09:38:44 PM
Night at the Museum I think I will go to that Tomorrow night at the grand city of Longton.   When is the bean feed?  Can you have a sample of the pork before you buy a 4-H pig? 
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Diane Amberg on July 31, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
If you haven't already seen it, it's really cute. And for the pork..can you take out a plug like we used to do to watermelon? No? Oh well.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: L Hendricks on August 01, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
Okay - we did the fair last night - OMG - it was hot... the girls of course loved looking at the animals... mom and dad still remember 20 years ago...when all the barns were full... the bingo stand seemed to be doing okay... the kiddie round robin had quite about of interest as did the adult round robin... The movie had a great location and was good... popcorn was excellent - thanks to HSB and Richard and Anna Beth Fish... unfortunately we had to leave at 11pm as bedtime is normally 9:30...most of the 4-H kids left too because they had to get up and show this am... Hubby and I discussed the fair situation on the way home... unfortunately it needs a complete face lift... there isn't much to draw the kids and parents out of the A/C and away from TV... We didn't do the foot races but at 2pm - it is too hot for me to watch kids running around... about some water activities... like Susan and the Howard Pool set up at the Moline Crazy days - have squirt gun contests or water balloon launching... water slides... a portable pool... bring back the mud volleyball

In the evening - Okay here is where I get shot... do away with the bean feed and the jamboree... have something kids like to do - an air guitar contest or do a live band - Oakleaf are you available... have a skate board contest or trick bike rally... atv rodeo - the kids in Lonton seem to love 4wheelers...

I do like the idea of the street dance on Sat night - I assume BK - the local bar is sponsoring it... Well again maybe we can generate some ideas that will make this event more popular... the new barn is nice - too bad it isn't a/c.... how about doing crafts things for the kids in the afternoon in the shade...
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: sixdogsmom on August 01, 2008, 05:49:20 PM
I have photos from the 125 year celebration at Longton; they had a hay scramble for the kids. Several bales were broken and tossed into a heap followed by a bunch of coins. The kids were all turned loose on it, and boy did they have a blast looking for those coins. Lots of fun for the adults also.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on August 02, 2008, 03:54:57 PM
How was the Free .....bbq at the free fair?    Any pickle jars sitting around?
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Rudy Taylor on August 03, 2008, 08:57:35 AM
The only thing "sitting around" may have been a few pickled guitar players --- but you know?  They were pretty good.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Tobina+1 on August 04, 2008, 10:09:29 AM
We went to the fair on Friday night!  It brought back many memories of hot fair days!  All the kids did so well and the projects looked great!  Congratulations to all the kids!
I was very impressed with the fairgrounds at Longton.  It was a great location and shady that time of the evening.  There were a lot of people there for the BBQ, and it looked like the swine show had a lot of people watching, too.  The new barn where the rest of the projects were displayed was very nice (although it could have benefitted from some fans in the doors).  Also, having some fans in the livestock barns would probably be good, too. 
If the public were to have a vote on whether to combine the fairs and which current location to have it at, I would vote for a combination and to have it at Longton.  The extra funds can be used to really spruce up that fair and drive traffic towards it.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Judy Harder on August 04, 2008, 10:20:05 AM
Tobina

I was hoping to see you at the fair.
I was at the bean feed, it was very good and I did eat all I could hold.

Then I went to the barn to look at exhibits and they were very nice, but it was so hot in there......after all the evening sun was shining in the door and that is what helped the heat.....
I wish I hadn't left it till late to look around, I ususally enjoy that a lot.

Anyway I went back to watch the slave auction/food auction and became almost over heated so I opted out and when home.
Then Saturday I did watch the parade with Bob and Bonnie Mustoe and Bev and a whole slate of people.

It lasted 45 minutes.......was the longest we have had in years.......Course,  a good reason was Gus Jones had several of his
oil-rigs in the parade and they are very large.

I did enjoy the fair.....and I think we do have a nice fairgrounds and ball park arrangement and it was a "GOOD THING!"
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on August 04, 2008, 11:20:55 PM
How do we approach the Howard Fair Board to not have the fair there every year?   How do we approach the Longton Fair Board to not have the fair there every year?   Why can't we just have one fair?   Are we that in love with the idea that we are unwilling to budge even a little.  How about a trial separation.   Keep the 4-H fair in Longton  for two years and see if the crowd is bigger, popcorn hotter, and 4-Hers happier if we went back to the same place twice in a row. Crowd attendance will be the litmus test.  If it doesn't improve from one year to the next then we switch back to Howard for two years?   If it does improve then leave the fair in its entirety where it fits in the best.   Howard will get over it.   

Yes, I am from Howard,  Yes I have helped at the fair for too many years not to hate it with such disdain that I will be glad to help haul the stupid HFA chairs to Longton as a gesture of good will...... Any takers?
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: L Hendricks on August 05, 2008, 06:40:09 AM
PEP - I with ya on this one - I think Longton has the nicer fair grounds and with a/c to the building it could be even better.  If we let Longton have the fair then Howard could do something really cool with their grounds... Putt putt was mentioned in another thread...I think all of these grounds are underutilitized... Elk Co Rodeo Grds, Polk Daniel Lakes, Longton Fair Grds, Howard Fair Grds, Moline City Lake... How can we improve these grounds and make them more than a one function land use...

I made it to the Parade - it was very good - of course Gus had all his equipment - but he deserved to showcase the blue machines... he and Denise survived the crappy 80-90s oil times and went from one rig that she and he worked on to the 3 rigs and pump trucks and all the employees... Congrats to a local raised guy for doing a bang up job...

The Farm Bureau Candidate forum was good - it was nice to see the Leos involved... (that's the kids).  They asked the candidates questions... Of course most of the local candidates were there, plus Jeff King and Derek Schmidt, then Lee Jones (running against Pat Roberts) and Betts (running against Tiahrt).  Good job Farm Bureau.

Came back for the livestock sale - thought the animals sold pretty well.  Have heard from 2 people that we have one of the best premium sales around... so thanks to all the local merchants and to the sale committee for getting that money.

The street dance was a blast... it was up town in front of BK's (the bar)... they roped off the whole block with firetrucks and misc vehicles... Lightning J set up a stage right in front of the bar.  The little kids had a blast.  Why can't we do that in front of Penny's.  By the time the sun went down, it was actually decent outside.  Don't know how the rodeo went.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Tobina+1 on August 05, 2008, 10:31:09 AM
OK, here's the scoop.  There are basically many different groups to contend with on the Fair and 4-H Fair side.  The 3 main groups are #1)  Howard Fair Board, #2) Longton Fair Board, and #3) District Extension Executive Board. 
The 2 Fair Boards don't seem to have any offical membership, but they apparently used to.  It used to have a Board of Directors, which were also Stockholders.  Now, it's more like a volunteer program (and a get-volunteered program).  These 2 boards are in charge of the facilities and they either own or lease the grounds (i.e. at Howard they have a 99 year lease on the grounds).  The Boards donate $1,000 for ribbon premium money when the fair is at their location, and when it's not at their location they pay for all the ribbons (i.e.  Howard Fair Board will pay to purchase all the ribbons at this year's 4-H fair in Longton, since Longton is in charge of getting the facilities ready and pay for up-keep).  The local Board also pays for judges for the events, although the Extension Agent is in charge of finding the judges.
The District Extension Executive Board is now made up of 4 elected members from Elk County and 4 elected members from Chautaqua County (as of July 1).  The elections are in April and they serve a 4-year term.  This Board is in charge hiring, paying, and managing of the Extension Agent (which in Elk Co is also the 4-H agent).  They can tell the Agents what they can do and what they can't do.  Back in 1987 or 88, this board decided to only allow the Agent to conduct 1 4-H fair a year, which is why we now have the alternating fair.  Before then, the 4-H fair was in both locations and the kids had to exhibit at both.  The Exec Board decided this was too much for the Extension Agent, so they only allow the Agent to have one 4-H fair per year. 
The last 2 groups that have a stake in the 4-H fair is the county 4-H council which is made up of older 4-H kids and adult leaders.  They are elected from each club to be on the council.  They do set some policy for 4-H and for the fair, but not sure this is really their job.  The 4-H rules are dictated at the State 4-H level, and also by the Dist. Ext. Exec Board.  But some of the local policy is determined by the 4-H council, too.  The other group is the 4-H Sale committee who puts together the livestock premium sale and gets buyers and local businesses.  They can essentially set the date of the livestock sale, but they work together with the Fair Boards to determine the schedule. 
The other outside group that aids with the funding of the fairs is the County Commissioners, as Liz stated before.
Here are some other things to consider...
From an insider's view, neither location is better over the other, and both have serious facility changes that need to be made.  At Longton, the new exhibit barn and the show arena are good steps, but the layout for getting people to walk through the facilities and encouraging community involvement are lacking.  The location is shady, but is also in a hole and doesn't get much airflow.  At Howard, the exhibit barn is very bad, but the animal barns seem to be good and well located/layed out and easy for people to view the animals.  The location is out in the broad open with no shade, but the breeze helps (or hinders, depending on how hard it's blowing).
The 4-H Families that are attending these fairs and driving to/from the grounds every single day during the fair need to be considered and polled to determine which facility and location they prefer.  There also needs to be consideration for future 4-H families that will be joining in the next few years.
The Sale Committee needs to be able to work effectively with the Fair Board to be able to set the day for the livestock auction so that the animals can be shipped directly to the packing facility and/or salebarn in a timely manner after the sale.  For example, the animals that were sold on Saturday night had to be fed and maintained over the rest of the weekend so they could be loaded out Monday morning.  In the past, they've also tried a Friday night sale, but the hogs were the only animals that could be taked Saturday morning (going to a livestock auction barn that sells hogs on Saturdays). 
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Devyn-Leann on August 05, 2008, 02:21:03 PM
Number one, I agree we need to have one fair. Number two, I know both of the locations need work. I'm a born and bred Howard girl and I don't want to see the fair moved but something needs to be done.

I agree with Tobina on polling the 4-Hers and parents on their location preferences. Lane, as well as all of my future children, will participate in 4-H. I live close to Severy and if the fair was in Longton each year I would have to haul livestock and any other projects. THEN, I would have to drive back and forth everyday for however many days the fair lasts. I'm sure Oak Valley 4-Hers would feel the same if they had to come to Howard.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Wilma on August 05, 2008, 03:46:55 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again.  The best location for an Elk County Fair + 4H is the rodeo grounds at the north 99-160 junction.  It would take new buildings, but the rodeo arena is already there.  Each town could continue to have their specific celebrations at the traditional time.  The fair could be held in the middle of July, between the usual Howard date and the usual Longton date. 
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Devyn-Leann on August 05, 2008, 05:03:14 PM
I agree, Wilma. I think that would be a spectacular location.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Flintauqua on August 05, 2008, 05:15:12 PM
Why stop at combining only the two fairs.  Now that we have Elk and Chautauqua hitched as one extension district, why not add in the two Chautauqua fairs, along with the two Elk fairs and the 4th of July Rodeo.  I have just the name:

FANTASTIC FOURTH of july FLINTAUQUA FAIR
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 05, 2008, 06:02:21 PM
Ya just might have something there! ;D
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Dale Smith on August 05, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
You know, that really is not a bad idea.  Living in Atlanta, Georgia, where a fifty mile drive doesn't even get you to the other side of town, I think the distance between Sedan, Howard, Moline, Longton, etc. is not that significant.  Banding together for one big fair would make for one heck of a fair.  Might even be able to get carnival rides!   :-)
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: L Hendricks on August 05, 2008, 09:09:49 PM
okay - as we have seen from the Howard City Council meeting - how do we get ideas generated from here to real life.... How can we bring the stakeholders together to have a serious conversation and everyone wins... if we don't start working together we will have no more volunteers...
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on August 05, 2008, 10:32:53 PM
You will still have volunteers but they will just get loader and more opinionated.    Combining with CQ would not hurt my feelings any.  What is the internal struggle that caused them to have two fairs this year?  Were they trying to out fair us.   We could have three if Moline would get off its butt and have one also....Then we could all go to that one and have a great time.

Why do we have the fair in the hottest busiest time of the year?

What is wrong with the first of June?   

Does CQ have a fair board that we can communicate with or is it one of those insider backroom organizations?

Could we call it the HOWARD COUNTY FAIR.....!?

Don't they have a swat team down there?   Teresa they have guns.   Gun showmanship at the new and improved Howard County Fair.  Trick shooting.  Fancy hotel window shootout?  Million dollar bounty.....


Some one call Bill see if we can use the Red Buffalo Stage to have a real stage line from to EK KONNECTED to CQ.  Meander down by the Quivera Lake, gallop over by the outhouses festival grounds , through the ELK ranch, and finally rondeveous at EAGLE HEAD.  We could even take side trips to the Little house on the Praire..... but that is MG.   They are not ELK KONNECTED>........they have one of those evil "W" stores.

Big store. No Cattle......


Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: W. Gray on August 05, 2008, 11:00:39 PM
Calling it a Howard County Fair might not be so far fetched.

After all, Sedan has the Howard County Players.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Lookatmeknow!! on August 06, 2008, 06:48:58 AM
The Extention Councils have combine as of July 1.  The Elk County and Ch. County have that is.  It is now called Rolling Plains Extention Council.  Some of the 4-H events have been combined, the Favorite Foods Show is one, and I think in the future we will be combining more.  This year at the Elk County 4-H Horse show there were only 7 contestants.  They were all Junior showman, or girls I should say.  I think we have more younger 4-Hers that will be taking horses next year.  But it was really sad not to see more kids at this event.  Even the Favorite Foods Show there was only 4 or 5 kids with the combination of the two counties.  I think more kids need to get involved in 4-H.  It is a wonderful thing for these kids.  My oldest has been in 4-H for 4 years now.  We don't play summer ball or do many other extra activities.  We give her a choice to choose between different things to do and she picks 4-H.  I loved 4-H.  I feel that the things that I learned in 4-H has helped me to be a better person.  I learned to cook, sew, run a mean meeting the right way, and learned also that you can't always win but you try you best at all times. 

I wouldn't think that combining the fairs would hurt.  We used to enter items at both fairs in Elk County.  But this year, with the price of gas and being so busy, we only entered in the 4-H fair.  My younger girls enter things and the oldest does her 4-H projects.  This year they even had a younger kids showmanship contest.  The kids that participated loved it!  It made them feel like they were really special.

But I am with you guys on getting more to attract the families.  But with rising gas prices and inflation, what is there??   I personally don't really like carnival rides, and don't really like for my kids to ride them.  It makes me to nervous!!  I don't like the thought of putting my child on rides that are put up and taken down in hours.  But that is just me.  I think more family games and events for them.  The movie was GREAT!!  We had to leave early because Parker had the sheep show the next day, but my kids loved it!!  It gave them memories of watching a movie outside.

OK, that is more than my 2 cents!!!
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Tobina+1 on August 06, 2008, 12:03:11 PM
Well, that is part of the problem is that we need a 4-H Fair to showcase the 4-H projects, but each town also has the "Free Fair" part, too. 
One reason that the 4-H fair is in the hottest part of the summer is that traditionally allows the kids to get out of school before really starting on 4-H projects.  They can still break a steer to lead in 2 months after school gets out.  Also, most of the harvest is over so the parents can be at the fair sweating it out with the kids.  Family sweat is good.  Also, the KS State Fair is in September, and a lot of the 4-H projects at the county level can be taken to the State Fair if they qualify.  So, I'm not really how much we can really rock the 4-H boat and change that part of the fair to be in a different part of the year. 
It has been suggested that there are a few possible ways to change having multiple county fairs.  One is something Liz already noted has been tried (and failed), and that is the County Commish pulling funds.  Or only giving funds to one fair, forcing the other to try and operate with no funds.  (Note:  1 county commish is also on 1 of the fair boards).  Another thing that could happen is that the Extension District could force the 4-H agent to only have the 4-H fair at one specific location instead of allowing him to have the fair in 2 different places.  This might not force the other community to stop having a fair, but it would at least make the 4-H fair be constant and may help the betterment of the facilities at that location.  The last suggestion would be that a petition go out to put a vote on the ballot.  I have no idea if that would actually be able to "disband" the Fair Boards or make them combine into one?  Unless they are a state/county funded group, that'd be like voting to disband the Cookson card club or something, I'd think.  I don't know much about the Fair Boards.  Maybe we start another one that is the Elk County Fair Board (or the EK/CH Fair Board), and go to the county commish's for funds and go to the Dist Extension Council for letting us host the 4-H fair at X location and just take the other 2 Fair boards out of the picture for the 4-H fair?  And if they want to try and continue to have a free fair in their town, then they'll have to do so on their own?  I'd like to think of a more ammicable agreement, though.
Like maybe, just maybe, the 2 Fair Boards have a joint meeting and realize they can't continue to go it alone and agree to join forces?  Maybe I'm just an optimist.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Dale Smith on August 06, 2008, 04:32:55 PM
Tobina, as always, you have a very well thought-out and articulate posting.  I would agree that yes, you are an optimist.  But, you are also a realist!
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on August 06, 2008, 09:52:14 PM
How do you get the two fair boards together in one place to have the meeting?  What would the fairs gain by doing so?   How can two depressed communities not try to work together to share resources and labor?  Have any board member said anything about what the tone is at both boards? 

Would a larger more evolved event draw more people?  Wouldn't each board only have to do half the work?  If you are using the same amount of resources and getting more bang for you buck by involving more people who loses?

Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Tobina+1 on August 07, 2008, 07:50:30 AM
Thanks, Dale!  I visited with someone who knows a lot more than me about the suggestions for how to combine the fairs, but I tried to expand on each point.
Patrick; these are very good questions.  Anyone have any answers?  I'm not sure I even know who is on either of the boards.  Maybe someone should invite them to a central location to visit about the situation?  Who would have that authority or even just enough ranking for them to take it seriously?  Do we start visiting with some of the 4-H parents and get them to start a petition for a meeting?  There's a few on this forum who might have some insight.  Does any of the Elk Konnected action groups have enough clout yet to call for a meeting?  Does the County Commission have the authority?  Does anyone just know the Board Presidents and can just make a suggestion?
I think it needs to come from within; the 4-H clubs/parents.  They have the most stake in the game and they're the majority of the reason these fairs occur.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: L Hendricks on August 07, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
Some of the board members of Longton - Lawrence Jontra, Velra & Jack Hoyt, Bill & Carol Barnaby, Elmer Cook, Richard Cook -A little history - the Barnabys were one of the founders of this fair and the Jontra, Hoyts and Barnabys are all direct descents from these founders... a lot of history there and family pride...

The Ext board is also made up of some of these families - mainly to keep the tradition alive. 

I believe I mentioned earlier that when the Longton Fair bldg burned, I mentioned combining... I probably won't do that again - but at that time, it was to combine at Howard since Howard had the building. 

I don't know if Christy Tyler, Ernie Small, Don Perkins, Carl Morgan are on the Howard Fair... it rotates more than the Longton one does. 

Right now, not sure the EK group has enough clout yet.  Don't really know if it is a county comm subject or not.  Since the ext. district was formed, the county does have a budget authority over them.  We still do fund the fair though.

I don't know if it would be possible to have a meeting with the Howard Fair, Longton Fair and Elk Co Rodeo assn... there are some strong families ties on the Elk Co Rodeo Assn too. 

Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Lookatmeknow!! on August 07, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
That is so hard when you have strong family ties that bing the boards.  Not sure if any of them would consider combining.  I think around here, each community feels that they are there own.  They do there own thing and change just isn't a possibility to them.  I for one don't mind change, but know that the people that you mentioned, and each board work really hard to make each and every fair enjoyable.  I do have to say that this year at the 4-H fair I did see more of each different 4-H club working together.  Not that they haven't in the past, but I know that if it wasn't for the help of Anthony Beitz, Charlie Ellis, and Cale Ellis Parker wouldn't have gotten her sheep to look so nice.  ( I helped but didn't really know that much about what I was doing.  1st time for her to take sheep, and things have changed since I was in 4-H.)  I really enjoyed the fair in Longton this year.  The people are all really nice and really like to help out.  Not that Howard isn't the same, but didn't do much at the Howard Fair, to busy.

I have to say, I think that alot more of the 4-H things might be combined with Chautaqua County next year and the years to come.  Not for sure, but I know that the Flinthill Booster has around 26 to 30 members and that is double of the two other clubs in the county.

As for a 4-H parents view, I don't think we will ever combine the fairs.  I don't mind if we did.  But, I did drive about 200 miles last week back and forth to Longton.  I put alot of money in the van!!  That is what you have to think about when you think about combining.  If you have it in Longton, the Howard people have to drive back and forth, such does the Longton people if you have it in Howard.  Poor Grenola people, they have to drive no matter where you have it.  We have members that are from Severy, so it is that much further for them if the fair is in Longton.  It's a no win situation if you ask me  :(  !!!!!
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: pepelect on August 07, 2008, 07:52:28 PM
You would drive farther that that to go to a movie.  You would drive farther than that to buy clothes.  You would drive farther than that to look at a used car.  You would drive farther than that to go to the hospital.  You would drive farther than that to find a water park.  You would drive farther than that to stop at a stoplight.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: lola330 on August 07, 2008, 08:55:03 PM
I agree with pepelect,  almost everyone leaves Moline, Severy, Howard etc  to spend money on all manner of shopping, dining, and entertainment on a daily or weekly basis.

I would love one big fair that ran about 5 days with rides, cotton candy, big 4h barn, corn dogs on a stick, fried dough, vendors etc.  I have traveled to Coffeyville and Sedan just to go to a "larger" local fair, and we go to the State fair every other year or so.

On one hand we cry about wanting things to stay the same.  On the other hand we moan about how to get more people to move here or even just show up with some cash to spend in our towns. 

On another post there have been facts posted that show the steady and alarming decline in population in Elk Co.  I have only one thing left to say, and this applies to the whole grade school situation as well.

United we stand, divided we fall.  It's time to unite. 

<----------------stepping of the soap box now   :)

Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 08, 2008, 01:12:46 PM
Yea! Clap, clap, clap, clap! Getter done before it's too late. You all can't lose too much more population before you are all too small to do anything. Don't compete...complete. Get together and save your best for the future.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Mom70x7 on August 09, 2008, 12:51:57 PM
QuoteDon't compete...complete.

I like that - should be a mega-slogan for something!

Don't compete . . . complete.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Diane Amberg on August 09, 2008, 01:46:17 PM
Use it with my blessings. ;) :-*
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: srkruzich on August 09, 2008, 01:53:19 PM
You know if you want people to show up and spend money the answer is hold a festival.

Heres a festival from the town of dahlonega Ga where i moved here from.  They only have 2500 residents.  :)


(http://www.dahlonega.org/images/stories/goldrush%20crowd%20(200%20x%20140).jpg)

The Grand Daddy of Georgia's Mountain Festivals!
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Gold Rush Days are held the third weekend in October (the 18th and 19tH for 2008), when thousands come to see fall colors peaking and celebrate Dahlonega's 1828 discovery of gold. Over 300 art and craft exhibitors gather around the Public Square and Historic District in support of this annual event, and it is estimated that a crowd of over 200,000 visit over the weekend to join in the fun and excitement!

Gold Rush Days has been voted one of the Top 20 Events in the southeast by the Southeast Tourism Society.

Included in the two day event are a parade, children's activities, a fashion show, gold panning contest, wheelbarrow race, King and Queen Coronation, hog calling, buck dancing contest, gospel singing and other live entertainment, wrist wrestling, and last but not least – some delicious food!
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Dale Smith on August 09, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
Hey Steve, I didn't know that you moved there from Georgia.   I love going to Dahlongega.

Maybe what the town of Howard should do is something like Helen, GA did.  Helen was in a rapid decline and decided to come up with a theme or gimmick to draw tourists.  Being up in the North Georgia Mountains, they created an Alpine Village.  And, as you know Steve, the tourists flock to Helen.   I was thinking that maybe Howard should do something like that... maybe turn it into an old western style town, or ghost town type of thing.  Cover the fronts of buildings so that they appear to be out of the wild west, etc. 

You know the old song.. "You gotta have a gimmick"
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: srkruzich on August 09, 2008, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: Dale Smith on August 09, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
Hey Steve, I didn't know that you moved there from Georgia.   I love going to Dahlongega.

Maybe what the town of Howard should do is something like Helen, GA did.  Helen was in a rapid decline and decided to come up with a theme or gimmick to draw tourists.  Being up in the North Georgia Mountains, they created an Alpine Village.  And, as you know Steve, the tourists flock to Helen.   I was thinking that maybe Howard should do something like that... maybe turn it into an old western style town, or ghost town type of thing.  Cover the fronts of buildings so that they appear to be out of the wild west, etc. 

You know the old song.. "You gotta have a gimmick"

:) yeah i am from dahlonega :D my sons graduated from dahlonega high school.  I am always teasing my friend Sarah when she says theres mountains around here.  :P  I say nnnoooooo those aren't mountains, their mole hills :D

Yeah helen was in a grand spiral downwards to obscurity til they decided to turn it into a barvarian village and hold octoberfest every year.  Now days it is packed with people at anytime of the year.  Lots of money flows into that town bigtime and most of the businesses there are restaurants and bars. :)

Western town maybe will work. Not sure.  Hmmmm 
Dahlonega's gold rush is set up to attract people who go around the country to sell things.  They pack up after its done and go to the next event.  IF you promoted a theme like lets say a land rush or cattle drive or something like that.  Don't know what would attract people these days.  But take main street and rent out spaces for vendors to setup.

I know that dahlonega originally set up for local artisans and businesses and when it grew they muscled out the locals with high fees on the space rentals.   SHoot they even charge 10 dollars now to park at the event and the jaycees rack up on that bigtime. 200,000 people and a estimated 50,000 vehicles that get parked.  Not a bad take on parking.

hmm could turn the old bank everyone is talking about to a western bank and have a bank robbery and show.  Get a old stagecoach and offer transports from parking at the fairground to mainstreet, and charge 5 bucks to park including a ride to town.

:D
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: srkruzich on August 09, 2008, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: Dale Smith on August 09, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
Hey Steve, I didn't know that you moved there from Georgia.   I love going to Dahlongega.


LOL what took you from howard to atlanta! :P LOL

Uhmm where do you work at in Atlanta??  I worked down there for 20 years.  I was sys admin for cox, at&t, bellsouth, promina health systems, NSA technolgies, and a few other corps. 

Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: Dale Smith on August 09, 2008, 06:51:42 PM
I have worked at Emory University for 18 years.  I originally left Howard when I joined the U.S. Coast Guard.  I spent 3 years in Tokyo, Japan, followed by three years at the Coast Guard Institute in Oklahoma City, and then came to Atlanta as a Recruiter for the Coast Guard.
Title: Re: Longton Free Fair
Post by: srkruzich on August 09, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: Dale Smith on August 09, 2008, 06:51:42 PM
I have worked at Emory University for 18 years.  I originally left Howard when I joined the U.S. Coast Guard.  I spent 3 years in Tokyo, Japan, followed by three years at the Coast Guard Institute in Oklahoma City, and then came to Atlanta as a Recruiter for the Coast Guard.

Ohh my sister used to work at emory for a doctor there. don't remember his name. radiology transcription.