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General Category => The Good Old Days => Topic started by: Marcia Moore on July 23, 2008, 04:57:16 PM

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Post by: Marcia Moore on July 23, 2008, 04:57:16 PM
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Post by: patyrn on July 23, 2008, 05:07:22 PM
Marcia,

I THINK, but am not certain, that Mr. Bartlett's name was George and his wife was Molly.  It just sounds right to me, but maybe someone else can remember more definitely.

KRI
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Post by: frawin on July 23, 2008, 05:10:47 PM
Marcia, I can shed some light on No. 5, George and Molly Bartlett operated the Jewelry Store. Prior to putting in the jewelry store the building had a grocery in it. My dad had a grocery store their from around 1930 to late 1940 and then he sold it to Bartletts. Bartletts operated the grocery store their until sometime in the mid-40s and then they put in the Jewelry store.
I will look back in my old elk county clippings and see if I can find more.
Frank
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Post by: Marcia Moore on July 23, 2008, 05:15:48 PM
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Post by: frawin on July 23, 2008, 05:15:59 PM
Marcia, on item No 4, the first I remember that Building, it had Innes Cafe in it, Bud Innes ran it. I don't go back that far but as I seem to recall it was always the ODD Fellows Buliding.
Frank
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Post by: frawin on July 23, 2008, 05:18:07 PM
Marcia, the Bartlett Store was where Waldo's Barber shop was and that is now being integrated into Batson's Drugstore.
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Post by: Jo McDonald on July 23, 2008, 06:00:34 PM
Marcia, the Oddfellow Lodge and the Rebecca Lodge was on the top floor - and there was a coin operated laundry on the ground level as well as the Tarwater Law office, and Pauline Miller had the Elk County Abstract office there also.  I can't remember what was in the west end by the alley before it was used by the Firemen to store the truck in.  I'm not much help - but I do remember those occupants.
  Jo
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Post by: Marcia Moore on July 23, 2008, 06:06:58 PM
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Post by: frawin on July 23, 2008, 06:07:27 PM
On the West end was the city fire truck and the city jail cells. Where the laundry was that Jo mentioned was Innes Cafe before the laundry.
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Post by: W. Gray on July 24, 2008, 09:04:18 AM
Howard National Bank building was finished in 1887.

From 1877 to 1886 the bank was known as the Elk County Bank.

In 1886, the bank became the Elk County State Bank.

The name was changed to Howard National Bank by the time the building opened.
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Post by: Jo McDonald on July 24, 2008, 09:49:02 AM
Frank, I am glad to know about the Innes Cafe.  We left Howard in 1954 and moved to Yates Center and from there in 1956 to Welch, Ok. and then back to Kansas in 1957 to Pittsburg, then returned to Howard in May 1963. So I did not know that a cafe was in that building.  You know the old saying ??? "A bad penny always returns"  lol  and that is true in this case, I guess.

I just love hearing things of long ago and  the Now Things too.

  Jo
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Post by: W. Gray on July 24, 2008, 09:58:06 AM
I was in that cafe one time.

But I thought it would have been before 1954.

My grandmother Gray took me in there one afternoon and bought me a slice of lemon pie.

I recall we set at a counter with stool seating and the man behind the counter wore a white "soda jerk" hat.

I thought it was cool.
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Post by: Jo McDonald on July 24, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
You may be right, Waldo, but  Fred and I were married in May 1947 and moved to Howard in September.1947.  I worked for Earl Allen in the drug store, but I don't remember an Innes'  cafe there.  There was a liquor store on the west side of the alley, behind the office building that John Black now owns.  Brooks Bryan had the Ford dealership on the corner that is now the 1st Nat'l Bank. 
  Help --- someone jump in here, this has got my interest piqued.
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Post by: frawin on July 24, 2008, 10:21:25 AM
Jo, Innes was there in 1946, I used to walk by it walking to my brother's store when I started to school. I don't know what year it went out. I remember  Bud Innes, he always called me little Winn boy.
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Post by: frawin on July 24, 2008, 10:25:49 AM
The building that John Black is in was Hottinger's Drugstore and later the PCA Office. The Liquor store was owned by Merritt Dennett. I am not sure who had it before Merritt. Pop and Sue Allen put one in out just South of Toots in the late 40s or early 50s.
Frank
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Post by: frawin on July 24, 2008, 10:31:21 AM
I think that after Innes closed, Dallas Roberts put a Shoe Repair store in that building, then after Dallas moved to the Old  Pete Hubbell and Lee Shell Appliance store just South of the now Howard State Bank, Junior Perkins put a self serve laundry in the Odd Fellows building where Dallas had been.
Frank
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Post by: W. Gray on July 24, 2008, 10:37:38 AM
Jo,

I would have guessed late forties because I was a small guy.

It was usually my aunts and uncles that took me anywhere for a treat and they did lots of times, mainly on my mother's side.

On this one day, my Grandmother Gray told me we were going somewhere but she would not tell me the destination. Apparently, everyone else was out somewhere.

She took me out their back door and down the long stairs where they lived above McKees Dime Store. Then we turned right down the alley and walked to the "fire department" and turned left going to the end of the building.

It was a treat that she took me for a treat and that was the only time that ever happened.

By 1954, I would have been too old and too ornery for her to even consider buying me something.
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Post by: W. Gray on July 24, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
The stone and masonry on that building appears to be in very good shape to this day.

The doors and windows do not look that good but the building appears to be holding up well.

The material appears to be the same or similar as the 1887 Howard National Bank.

The stonework on that building looks like a good size ocean wave on the south side.

Someone sells speciality soap out of that building now.
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Post by: patyrn on July 24, 2008, 01:41:16 PM
Sue Bauder now has her Red Barn Soap Store there.  George Sharp had the Abstract Office in that location before Pauline Miller took it over, followed by Sue. 
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Post by: Marcia Moore on July 24, 2008, 03:16:13 PM
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Post by: Jane on July 29, 2008, 08:54:20 AM
The Red Barn soap building was once owned by Rex Tarwater. Katheryn Vinette Tarwater and Darrel Vinette had their law offices in that building.
Army Mom
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Post by: Jody on July 29, 2008, 12:55:46 PM
Didn't BARTLETS HAVE A GROCERY STORE BEFORE  THEY WEN T IN THE JEWERY  BUISNESS?
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Post by: kate31701 on July 29, 2008, 01:20:15 PM
Jody, they bought Winn's Grocery in 1940. I saw that in an earlier post.