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Title: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 27, 2008, 01:00:01 PM
The Latest Scam: Robbing Females Using the Bathrooms at Shopping
Malls.

      The way the scam works is, a man slips into the women's rest-room and
sneaks into a stall. He waits until there is only one woman in the rest-room
in a neighboring stall. The criminal then stands on the toilet and points a
hand gun into the next stall, demanding the woman's valuables. After
getting her  cash and jewelry, he demands that she remove all of her clothing and
kick them out of the stall. The thief tosses the clothing into a shopping
bag,  hangs an out of order sign on the rest-room door, and slips back into
the  mall. The out of order sign ensures no one will soon come to the
woman's  rescue. It usually takes an hour or two for the woman to work up the
nerve  to leave the rest- room in the nude, giving the criminal ample time to
make his get away. Th e woman is left naked and humiliated in a mall full
of strangers. The best defense, says police, is to never go into a
shopping mall rest-room alone, as only women who are by themselves are
targeted.
   
This has so far been a nearly perfect crime, as none of the perpetrators have been caught.

      Don't let this happen to you.  Please tell your wife and friends.


I don't know if this is true or not.. but it is a very real possiblity.. and we as women need to start becoming aware and to be able to be on the defensive end when we are out and about . This is the real world... And sometimes not a nice world. Chances are, nothing in your lifetime will happen to you in this area, and I hope it doesn't. But we must be mentally prepared if it does.

I'm afraid that he would be in for a bit of surprise if he tried that with me. As I was reaching into my purse for my "valuables, I would grab a hold of my Conceal / Carry "friend" and at least get in one shot. This would have to be done fast and without much reaction. ( sometimes you only have one chance) Bet he would run like his ass was on fire. .. IF he was lucky, he would still be able to see , unless part of his face was gone.
And if I didn't have a CC permit and was defenseless? Well I think I would stand and scream and take that split second of the startle effect and try to get out of the bathroom door.
Or............take out  my billfold , which has ALL of my identification /credit cards  etc  and give a quick sling of my purse over head towards him. Then I would run like hell with my billfold in hand.
The kicker is keeping your wits about you and getting the dang door open from the stall.
And the worst case scenario......................... Give him my stuff... and as soon as I heard the door shut.. to hell with being naked and frightening little kids and teenagers..  ;D  run out of there screaming for someone to try  to catch or stop  him..

I would like to say that I wouldn't surrender easily.. but you never know. Too many X&Y factors.. 
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: archeobabe on January 27, 2008, 01:14:15 PM
Here, Here.  But a woman is cautious enough a pair of 15 would look out of place in the women restroom.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Jo McDonald on January 27, 2008, 02:32:53 PM
This may classify me as "nosey"  --- but I always check under the stall doors and "view the shoes".  Now ---- as a lighter note to this statement, Our friends (two couples) were out of town, and were shopping, and of course the men went one way, and the ladies went the other, and after a while, the ladies decided they were going to the rest room, and one went ahead of the other, and the shoes that were visible under the first stall, were Her Husbands' !!  So she quickly turned around to her friend,and very quietly said "Do you recognize those shoes?"  and then both turned and walked out - and soon after so did he...and never knew that he had been discovered in the wrong restroom.  To this day, I don't think he knows this.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 27, 2008, 02:40:50 PM
Here is another tidbit. but not as violent.. but still It needs to be said.

Something everyone including men should know just in case your are carrying your wife or girlfriend's handbag.


 

 
  HANDBAGS...

Have you  ever noticed gals who sit their handbags on public toilet floors, then go directly to their dining tables and set it on the table? Happens a lot!

It's not always the 'restaurant food' that causes stomach distress. Sometimes 'what you don't know will hurt you'!
Read on...

Mom got so upset when guests came in the door and plopped their handbags down on the counter where she was cooking or setting up food. She always said that handbags are really dirty, because of where they have been.

It's something just about every woman carries with them. While we may know what's inside our handbags, do you have any idea what's on the outside? Women carry handbags everywhere; from the office to public toilets to the floor of the car. Most women won't be caught without their handbags, but did you ever stop to think about where your handbag goes during the  day.

'I drive a school bus, so my handbag has been on the floor of the bus a lot,' says one woman. 'On the floor of my car, and in toilets.'

'I put my handbag in grocery shopping carts and on the floor of the toilet,' says another woman 'and of course in my home which should be clean.'

We decided to find out if handbags harbor a lot of bacteria. We learned how to test them at Nelson Laboratories in Salt Lake, and then we set out to test the average woman's handbag.

Most women told us they didn't stop to think about what was on the bottom of their handbag. Most said at home  they usually set their handbags on top of kitchen tables and counters where food is prepared.

Most of the ladies we talked to told us they wouldn't be surprised if their handbags were at least a little bit dirty.

It turns out handbags are so surprisingly dirty, even the microbiologist who tested them was shocked.

Microbiologist Amy Karen of Nelson Labs says nearly all of the handbags tested were not only high in bacteria, but high in harmful kinds of bacteria. Pseudomonas can cause eye infections, staphylococcus aurous can cause serious skin infections, and salmonella and e-coli found on the handbags could make people very sick.

In one sampling, four of five handbags tested positive for salmonella, and that's not the worst of it. 'There is fecal contamination on the handbags' says Amy. Leather or vinyl handbags tended to be cleaner than cloth handbags, and lifestyle seemed to play a role. People with kids tended to have dirtier handbags than those without,  with one exception.

The handbag of one single woman who frequented nightclubs had one of the worst contaminations of all. 'Some type of feces, or possibly vomit' says Amy.

So the moral of this story is that your handbag won't kill you, but it does have the potential to make you very sick if you keep it on places where you eat.

Use hooks to hang your handbag at home and in toilets, and don't put it on your desk, a restaurant table, or on your kitchen countertop.

Experts say you should think of your handbag the same way you would a pair of shoes.

'If you think about putting a pair of shoes onto your countertops, that's the same thing you're doing when you put your handbag on the countertops' -  Your handbag has gone where individuals before you have sneezed, coughed, spat, urinated, emptied bowels, etc!

Do you really want to bring that home with you?

The microbiologists at Nelson also said cleaning a handbag will help. Wash cloth handbags and use leather cleaner to clean the bottom of leather handbags
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: T. Sackett on January 27, 2008, 06:18:52 PM
     This is in regards to the previous posting of being robbed in the restrooms:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/restroom.asp
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 28, 2008, 11:19:50 AM
I knew that.. I already checked it out after I posted. But it didn't matter.. It is STILL a possibility and should be a heads up that things happen.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Diane Amberg on January 28, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
As far as dirty purses go, most of our grocery stores have alcohol wipes at the front door. They work on purse bottoms as well as hands and carts. Of course hand washing is best. As convienent as they are, I don't care for hand blow dryers because then I don't have a paper towel to use on the restroom door as I leave.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 28, 2008, 11:43:51 PM
If I have a sweatshirt on, I pull the sleeve down a bit and use that.  :-\
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: sixdogsmom on January 28, 2008, 11:49:24 PM
We could all just stay home and email it! Sometimes we can just get TOOO paranoid!! Being careful is one thing, but I sure don't pull down my sleeve to open a door??? Hellooo??? They tell us now that we should be exposed to a certain amount of germs so we can build a healthy immune system. I don't picnic in the bathroom, nor do I linger, however I would never pull down my sleeve to exit.  :P :P 
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 28, 2008, 11:55:22 PM
It's just the end of it..( the cuff)  Better than grabbing the handle after my hands are washed .. to grabbing it after someone has wiped themselves and NOT washed.
No thank you.
Trust me, I get enough germs to stay healthy. I don't need to add to it. And I am far from paranoid.. but public bathrooms are just usually nasty.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: sixdogsmom on January 29, 2008, 12:07:37 AM
Not trying to argue here, but we go out, then grab a cart, shop, touching all kind of things. Do we then use our cuff? Should Typhoid Mary sneeze, look at a pair of shoes and we come along and look at the same pair of shoes, what then?? How do we know? We don't, and take our chances whenever we have contact with the outside world. There is no harm in taking precautions; I use alcohol hand cleaner A LOT; I live with an immuno suppressed person. It can just become an obsession, and isn't worth it. Every one of us harbor deadly germs, and I think it is more likely to contract food born illness these days than off the bathroom door handle. It isn't Friday, so I will descend from the soap box now. LOL!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Dale Smith on January 29, 2008, 05:58:58 AM
I have to agree with Teresa and Diane on this... I don't want to touch anything in a public restroom that I don't have to.  I use the papertowels as much as possible.  After all, I think in general, Men's rooms are probably even nastier than Women's restrooms.  YUCK!!!
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: frawin on January 29, 2008, 06:43:04 AM
I completely agree with Teresa and Diane.  I have even been known to use my shirttail to open a door.  I do not like public restrooms, but glad they are available when needed.

mlw
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Wilma on January 29, 2008, 08:08:28 AM
I started carrying a small bottle of Germ-X while my mother was in the nursing home.  My husband and I would clean our hands before we went in, then again after we left.  We never contracted any of the illnesses typical of a nursing home.  I still carry it and use it often when out.  And at home I wash my hands a lot.  The hand wheels on my chair are not metal and they leave my hands feeling dirty even though the wheels never touch the floor.  Even cleaning the wheels doesn't make them feel clean like the metal wheels did.  Can you imagine what the wheels that touch the floor must be like after shopping?  Of course, getting back to Elk county and rolling across the yard and up the ramp cleans a lot of the big city gunk off.
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: T. Sackett on January 29, 2008, 08:42:15 AM
     Not that my opinions and thoughts are worth diddly squat, but I am going to throw my two cents worth in here anyway.  I have either read or seen on TV (can't remember which) but in the report it stated that the grocery cart carried the most germs.  And like many other views expressed on this forum, public restrooms are repulsive when it comes to nasty germs, I always grab either a paper towel, or use my shirtail, or like Teresa, I use my sleeve cuff if nothing else is available, to open the restroom doors.  A person would be amazed at how unsanitary others can be, just be observing people that go into the restrooms, that don't bother to wash their hands, after using the facility, blowing their nose, picking their noses, changing a baby's messy diaper, or whatever. Faucet handles also carry lots of germs, plus all that has already been
mentioned. is how so many people can catch virusus or colds, hepititus (not spelled right)etc. So I use a paper towel, if I can, to turn the faucet off. and using misc. preventative measures for other things, to keep from catching some unwanted "bug."

     It grosses me out on how some people just don't seem to care if they aren't sanitary.

     I always carry several Wet Ones with me, use them when needed, and so far I haven't had a cold all winter!  Now that's something!!
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: T. Sackett on January 29, 2008, 11:51:44 AM
    Whenever a person spends the day shopping and decides to grab a bite to eat at some shoppe, cafe/restaurant etc., have you ever wondered just how clean or sanitary the food personnel might be?  I heard of and witnessed some of these things happening.............band-aid in the food, hair in the food, the cook spitting on the hamburger, sweat running off of a person into the food, etc.   It makes me leery of eating out much.

Can you just visualize a person going into some establishment and saying "Hey!  I wanna eyeball your cook, before I order?"  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  A person wouldn't be considered as a preferred patron, that's for sure.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: sixdogsmom on January 29, 2008, 11:55:49 AM
Wilma, you need some of those cool fingerless gloves, like the ones they wear when racing wheelchairs! You'd probably look stunning in some electric blue ones with white lightening bolts on the backs!!
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: sixdogsmom on January 29, 2008, 11:58:59 AM
I think the secret to not having a cold is frequent hand washing and or sanitizing and refraining from touching your face; mouth, nose and eyes. I don't think anyone realizes how often we touch ourselves on the face, at least not till we try to keep from it. We haven't had colds all winter either, knock on wood!
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: T. Sackett on January 29, 2008, 01:01:36 PM
     This is quite a coincidence that Paul Harvey had this on his newscast today, but he was telling that paper money had nasty germs on it that would last for a long time. 

     And some patient that was in a hospital (I don't remember where) found a mouse head in her steamed vegetables!  Who would dream of a hospital of all places, as one thinks of a hospital as being "a sterile environment."
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: sixdogsmom on January 29, 2008, 02:01:06 PM
Maybe it was a sterile mouse head??  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Tobina+1 on January 29, 2008, 05:58:17 PM
Maybe it was a lab mouse that was being used to test vaccines for the flu... so eating it may have actually helped her get better!
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Joanna on January 29, 2008, 06:17:21 PM
And here I was just thinking...  I wonder where the rest of the mouse ended up???
Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: Teresa on January 29, 2008, 09:12:40 PM
All this talk about mouse parts in the soup...
I think I am going to be sick.

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Title: Re: Careful when shopping
Post by: flo on January 29, 2008, 09:20:55 PM
hospital? Sterile? If you aren't sick when you go in, you dang sure will be when you leave.  Not a better place around to get a very serious infection.  Keep your hand sanitizer close and make sure your nurse uses hers and wears rubber gloves.  And whoever mentioned the mouse head first, I have one comment.  GROSS