There was some young men and women ( from 18-30) talking the other evening about school and how it was when 'they' were in school.
I had to laugh.. because I remember my mom and dad talking about their school days..and I sat with utter amazement about how different it was for them than for me.
So at my time in high school ..which was in the 60's and early 70's..it was my turn to tell some stories ...
When I started talking and telling them what we used to do, they sat there with the same look of amazement that I have had so many many times. :)
We thought we had it soooo bad... but now when I tell about it..compared to what goes on in the schools now.. we had it soooo good!
I remember when we had open noon hours. And we had an hour. We could leave the school and go home or up town or drive around.. or walk around.. That hour was ours to have and spend any way that we wanted. The pool hall was open from 9:00 in the morning to midnight at night...every day except Sunday. Girls back then didn't go into the pool hall. It wasn't that we couldn't.. but we didn't. Reputation you know..
But all the boys did. And some went on their noon hour to drink a pop and play a game of pitch with the old men who hung in there all day. lol
And we had the Plaza grill and Theatre. Was there anything like Freddy Rhodes hamburgers? And he made the hugest french fries.. and the price usually depended on how many sips of the "devils nectar" that he had that evening..
And what about those great big grape gum balls that he had?
There was a single feature (with 3 cartoons) on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.. The show changed and then you had a double feature with previews and 2 cartoons on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Babe Rhodes would set in the booth outside and sell the tickets, and then later haul herself up the stairs to tell us all to shut up or she was going to "kick us all out".
poor old woman.. We just gave her fits.
*sighhhh* Those were such fun memories.
Driving around "dragging main street" .. where there were so many cars in a row that people couldn't even back out of the parking spaces for the whole 2 blocks. That is when Cobb's Food Market, & West's Grocery store open till 10:00 and Winn's cafe was open until 11:00. Batson's Drug store was open until 9:00. Waldo Gray was still in his barber shop cutting hair sometimes until 10:00.
Okay.. let me see.. ( and I just got off the phone from my mom.. and she helped jog my memory on the buisness's. )
Starting at the South end of main street on the west side, moving North... to the best of my memory.
(correct me if I am wrong) there was:
Then and ( Now::::in parenthesis)
Barger's Lumber yard,( Poplar Pizza )
Hebb's Auto Supply & Ed Heck's Repair Service.( Lanning's Auto)
Brown's Feed Store ( Tiffiny's Second Hand shop )
Howard City Library ( same)
Poor Jess & Audrey's Furniture ( Daves Grocery was ..now Cookson's Pack Pro )
Cooley's Beauty & Barber Shop ( Country Corner Beauty Shop was .. now Kathy's Tax Service)
Dr Claypool ( Medical Clinic)
Dallas Roberts Shoe Shop and Saddle Repair ( empty)
Howard National Bank
*next block*
Batson's Drug Store ( same)
Waldo Gray's Barber Shop
Mertle's Coffee Shop & Cafe ( Jean Gray's handcraft items)
Western Auto Store ( Cookson's Hardware )
Hebb's Family store (empty)
Winn's Cafe ( C& O Cabinetry)
Cobb's Grocery Store (C& O)
Optometrist (empty)
County Extension Office ( empty)
Government building ( Senior Center)
On the corner was Millard Cox's Service Station ( across the street from the Cox building )
Then Gene Cookson's Electric Shop ( Hud Houses)
( across the street from that was:)
Doc Buchele's office ( back part of the old empty bank on the corner)
Kennedy's Gas & service station ( Nungessor's building)
*Around the corner (east) moving to the south..:*
Original Howard National Bank ( same but empty)
American Legion ( 2nd Hand Store)
Vicks Western Clothing and Shoe Store (gone)
West's Food Market (gone)
Grayson's Five and Dime ( ASCS office.)
Perkins Hardware ( empty)
Lynn Perkins ( same)
Slim Gray's apartment ( Flint Hills Church)
PCA ( same)
First National Bank ( same)
Pool Hall ( same)
Plaza Theatre and Grill ( gone)
Howard Courant Citizen Newspaper ( free clothing place)
Hubert Horning Attorney ( empty)
Kiner's Grocery Store ( Welfare and Farm Bureau)
Museum ( same)
On the side streets and on the highway:
Doc's Reed's Dentistry ( Donut Shop)
Odd Fellows Hall ( storage)
Laundry Mat (storage)
Elk Country Abstract ..Pauline Miller ( Same..Sue Bauder)
Noel Mullendore Attorney ( empty)
Rex Tarwater Attorney (empty)
Howard Post Office ( same)
Fornchell's Insurance ( Insurance office)
Eubanks Garage ( Signers Garage)
We also had :
Toot's Drive In ( same)
Parker's Service Station ( Criger's Car Wash)
Cooksons Service Station & Cafe ( Mickey's Welding)
Harrod's Welding Shop ( Construction offices)
Howard Locker & Ice Plant ( empty)
Crisp TV Repair & Appliance's ( residence)
Ella Maye Beauty Shop
Gray's Flower Shop
Ethel Helm's Beauty Shop
McDonald brothers Propane
Elwood Miller Plumbing ( residence)
Spurrier -Watt Funeral Home ( Zimmerman Funeral Home)
Prairie Heritage Hotel ( Tiffany's Junk Shop)
There were a lot of business's then ..and the memories are overloading me as I write and remember.
But that is for another time..
About the only correction I see is the welfare office and Farm Bureau. The Farm Bureau is in the office that SRS had for a few years and next door is the Marla Foster Ware attorney's office. Mrs. Ware also serves as the county attorney for Elk County. Mrs. Ware and her husband, Bob, own the building and Farm Bureau leases their space from them.
In Batson Drug, which used to be the old Post Office, many, many years ago, we have the pharmacy, the gift shop and the soon, (?) grocery store that will be going in. Julie Perkins and her husband, Patrick, have worked hard trying to get this grocery store business going. The freezer and walk in are in place behind the pharmacy which used to be Noel Mullendore's attorney office that Marla Ware first started out her attorney business in.
Quote from: Janet Harrington on January 11, 2006, 09:34:37 AM
About the only correction I see is the welfare office and Farm Bureau. The Farm Bureau is in the office that SRS had for a few years and next door is the Marla Foster Ware attorney's office.
This is the 1960's.
It was Kiners grocery before Gene Cookson bought it and turned it into the ASCS offices.
My sister worked down there then ..which was in the late 70's.
Teresa,
In the 1960's, wasn't Dr. Claypool's office close to where the library is today? I DEFINITELY remember that place. When I was seven, I kicked a needle out of the nurse's hand there and three of them had to hold me down to give me that shot. Of course, I was yelling my head off the entire time, but to add insult to injury, when I walked out to the waiting room, I saw a classmate sitting there. Since he heard me, he teased me about being a baby when I returned to school. Who could forget such trama? :)
-Sherry
No.. Dr Claypool's office was where the clinic is today I think.
But it wasn't remodeled then of course..
The library is the same place as it always was.
And I remember my daddy had to take me in to Dr Claypool's off ice . I needed stitches in the palm of my hand. Of course they had to "try" to give me 3 shots to deaden the pain.. ( I screamed bloody murder.. and he snapped at my dad saying,"You better get your daughter in control because I am not going to put up with this." And with that he jerked my hand around and they proceeded to hold me down and give me those damned shots!
I really don't think my dad has ever gotten over his "mad'.. at the lack of compassion or bedside manner.
Dr. Claypool was not known for his gentle mannerisms.
Dr Buchele on the other hand was as gentle as a kitten.
Bless his old heart.
What in the world would Howard have done without his dedication to this town? :)
Teresa,
Funny how perceptions are different. I always thought that Dr. Claypool was the nice one and Dr. Buchele
was the grouchy one. (Or maybe it was Dr. Buchele's wife that was grouchy - she always scared me!). But considering we have two incidences of Dr. Claypool holding children down....... maybe I should change my perception! :)
I didn't see Dr. Claypool's office on your list. Wasn't it somewhere in-between the library and the Howard National Bank? Or is my memory really clouded!
-Sherry
Quote from: Sherry on January 12, 2006, 04:55:01 PM
(Or maybe it was Dr. Buchele's wife that was grouchy - she always scared me!).
She scared everybody.. I think even Doc. :D
Quote from: Sherry on January 12, 2006, 04:55:01 PM
I didnt see Dr. Claypools office on your list. Wasnt it somewhere in-between the library and the Howard National Bank? Or is my memory really clouded!
-Sherry
It is there now.. thanks for telling me. ;)
Teresa,
Is the swimming pool still in operations? Back in the 60's, my girlfriends and I lived there in the summertime. Our days consists of watching Let's Make a Deal at 12:30, then walking to the pool when it opened at 1:00.
And what ever happened to Solomon's bell? There was nothing more fun that having a gang of kids go and ring the bell; then run like crazy so as not to get caught by old man Solomon. It is amazing Mr. and Mrs. Solomon left the bell in their yard for all those years. I am sure we disturbed their sleep many of nights. They must have been saints!
And while we are reminiscing..... I wish Francis Perkins was still alive. I would like to thank her for what a fantastic teacher she was. She scared the bejesus out of me (and I'm sure most other kids), but thirty plus years later, I can still rattle off my multiplication facts within a snap of a finger. And snap her finger she did (until you came up with the correct answer)!
Life in Howard back the 60's was good. We didn't know how good we had it!
-Sherry
We all have teachers that we can remember. One of my favorites was Mae Roberts. She was Dallas Roberts mother and she lived here around Howard. She taught 5th grade at Severy, so she drove there everyday. When she had some kind of monumental birthday, maybe her 60th, my class was her 5th grade class and we managed to pull off a surprise party for her with the help of another teacher. I brought records to play that were from her growing up years and we had cake and kool-aid. Probably took up a collection for a gift. I can't remember. She was one of the best teachers I had. She was always so loveable and laugh alot. She taught us geography by pulling a map down, letting us stand there with our backs to the map, then she would give us some location to find such as Nevada and the first one to find it after she said go, got to go to the next round. I did learn my geography that way.
That had to be Kathryn Tarwater attorney, not Rex.
Now that really takes me back. She was our attorney and handled our family matters when Billy Denton died.
How long was Dr Buechle in practice. My stepmother Eleanor Smart Turner worked at the abstract office in Howard. I believe, when my father died in April of 1970, she took me to see Dr. Buechle because I was ill. But I seem to remember the office in a big house. I know it was busy and his wife assisted him. I remember they counted out the pills for me to take and put them in the little white envelopes and wrote the instructions on them.
He delivered me but had to do it at the old Eureka hospital because of complications. A couple years later, he delivered my sister in a house on south Wabash where Rose Nix Leo later resided.
He was still practicing in 1977 according to the Elk County history book. I was surprised to see he was a D.O.
I think that big house was just recently sold after Mrs Buchele died earlier this year or late last year. I do not recall going in the house but the practice must have been on the second floor since there is an outside stairway entrance to that part.
I bet they lived upstairs, because I think I remember walking up on the front porch and into the house.
I don't think Dr. Buchele ever practiced in a house in Howard unless it was in the early years of his practice. I only remember his office being on Washington behind the old Howard National Bank building (that would have been 1949 and after).. He and his wife, Irma, lived throughout my childhood on the second floor of Mrs. Wright's house (the house right north of the Video Store on Wabash) and didn't own it, just rented. After Mrs. Wright died and the house sold, they moved to the second floor of Gertrude Morrow's house on Pine Street and rented it. After Gertrude's death, they bought the house, and that is where they remained until their deaths.
You did miss on a few of these and seem to have forgotten a few. Perkins had a lumber yard that burned down in the late sixties before Cookson built his electric shop on the same site. The building that is beside the post office was orginally a ford tractor dealership and was used by my father as a shop for his sawmill and logging business in the mid to late sixties. Dont know who had the building after that but I remember the cable tv company using it as and office in the seventies. Elwood Miller had a plumbing shop in a biulding back of his house north of Kennith Smiths house. Where the Cox biulding is now was a blacksmith shop, dont know what the owners name was but I know that"s where Jerry Harrod got his start. Across the street to the north of the Cox gas startion was a feed store, dont know who owned that. That is the current site of the one room school. The gas station across from the court house was owned by a man named JIm but I dont know his last name and mom cant remmeber either. He sold that to Kennedy in the early seventies if I remember correctly. Grey's Greenhouse located east of the fairgrounds on the south side of the road, dont know what ever happened to that. And how could you forget that not only did we have a railroad with a real Santa Fe depot but also a Ford car dealership located across from the court house. After the the dealership closed Pat Crigar and another man, the same guy that bought Perkins hardware, had a mechanics shop for a few years. O yeah, dont forget the motel on the highway to the south of Harding's (JIm Stangs place) gas station. Anyway thats all I can remmeber off the top of my head this morning. Happy Thanksgiving to all.
If the one room school house that was moved is the old Union Center school, that is where my father and Uncle Teddy went during their early years. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
It is and it looks very nice.
Jim Hawkins had the filling station where Nungesser is now --- Ed Henry had the filling station and the Motel on highway 99. Brooks Bryan had a Ford Dealership in the 1950's where the First National Bank is now. We bought a 1950 Ford from him just before Teresa was born and that is the "new" ( not really, but new to us ) car we brought Teresa home from the hospital in. Cecil and Sue Allen , Pat's parents had the liquor store on the Hi way and then after their demise Pat owned it and now Vickie Crupper has her beauty salon there.
Virgil and Elva Munsinger had a plumbing shop where Cookson's Electric was on east Washington. Milinberg had a grocery store where the museum school house is now in the 40's. Of course, most all of these were before Teresa started giving her list. Years ago, Howard had many, many businesses, and actually, there are still a lot of businesses in Howard, compared to other little towns.
To add a little to this, the Blacksmith Shop, which was owned and operated by C.O. Cookie Seever wasn't where the Cox building is now , it was West of where the Cox building is. Carl Lauffer's Sinclair Station and later it was Dr Markeley's Vet clinic was where the Cox Building is now. Paul Doris Thompson had the Purina Feedstore across the Street South the Blacksmith Shop. Before that there was a bakery in the that building. In the 40s, 50s, and into the 60s Howard was a real bustling town with 4 grocery stores, 4 implement dealers, 3 car dealers, 4 barbers, 3 Doctors, (4 Doctors including Dr. Pike the Chiropractor)and the list goes on and on. Times have changed in rural America.
Frank winn
MY GOSH! How interesting.
I had to read real slow and get a visual on all of this and you know??...Howard was quite a booming little town, wasn't it?
I so wish it was like that again.. Wouldn't that be neat to wake up and suddenly we were the same as we are now.. but all the surroundings slipped back into the time capsule and we could relive those times as we are now?
My boys would just LOVE it! ( so would I)
There was also a liquor store behind what is now John Black's building. It was next to the alley, I don't know which one of the Dennetts' it was, but I think Merrit Dennet owned it. I am right Frankie, or am I wrong (again---sigh) ?
Across the alley was the fire station - then a self laundry and above that was the Oddfellow and Rebecca Lodge hall., then Kathryn Tarwater Law office.
Mr. Sievers' blacksmith shop was originally across the alley west from where the Cox Building is now. My dad (Cecil Hebb) bought that property adjoining our house and tore the building down, and Mr. S. moved his blacksmith shop east onto the land where the Cox Building is now. It was in a building right next to the Lauffer's service station/Markley's Veterinarian building. When Mr. Sievers' retired, Jerry Harrod went into business in that location and worked there until he moved to his present location. That was when that part of the block was cleared to build the Cox Building.
The Mobil gas station across the street from the courthouse was originally owned by my grandpa, Jim Hawkins, who sold it to Jim Carter probably in the 1950s. Jim Carter ran it throughout the years that I can remember. The car dealership next door on Pine Street was a Dodge dealership in the 50s/60s run by Earl Garison. After that, it was C & M Ford, I think
Howard Muilenburg had the grocery store where the one-room schoolhouse now stands until the late 50s. Russell Parsons had bought the Thompson Purina Feed Store across from the blacksmith shop, and then he relocated the feed store to Muilenburg's building.
Perkins Hardware had the lumber storage part of their business on the corner of Washington and Pine where the HUD houses are now. I don't ever remember it burning--wasn't it just torn down? The Cookson Building that burned was next to it (which side of the alley???) and had been used as a plumbing shop by the Munsingers before the Cooksons took it over, I think.
Golly, now I'm second guessing myself about some of this. Isn't it strange how easy it is to forget where these places used to be? Maybe with all of our minds working together, we can get it right. Anyone else have any recollections?
Hello Jo, you are correct it was Merritt Dennett that had that liquor store which was right behind Hottinger's. When I went to Junior college in Independence, Merritt's Nephew , Charles and I drove back and forth together. Charles ran the Liquor store at night and he and I studied together almost every night in the back of the liquor store. Patryn, Garrison Farm Supl;y was the Dodge/Plymouth and Allis Chalmers Dealership in the late 40s, 50s, and in the early 60s Garrisons changed to the Ford dealership, which they took over from "BIG"Charley Harlowe. Your Grandpa Jim used to let me fill the oil bottles , sweep out the station, empty the trash, he gave me pocket money and often a coke and pennies to put peanuts in it. Jim was a super guy and always gave me lots of good advice and guidance. Jo, wasn't the location where Howard Mullenberg's store was , previously the old skating rink, and next to it on the North I think was Lee Roberts New/Used Furniture Store? It sure would be neat to go back to the 40s and 50s in Howard for a day. The best and most unforgettable people in my life were from Howard.
Frank Winn
Frank...I remember that the skating rink was where Brownie had his feed store, on So. Wabash - then Curt and Louise Morgan bought it from Bunny after Brownie passed away - and then Kelly Zellner bought the building and put in a hardware store and now Dorothy Tiffany owns it.
Was it Mullenberg - or Millenburg ?? I thought Millenberg --but what do I know? On the north of it was a feed store, wasn't it? and didn't Russell Parson's own that?
We need Jim Criger on here to set us straight. I don't remember if the skating rink was there before it was on south Wabash or not. I was a Longton girl -- and I know where we had our skating rink, :laugh: :laugh: at the north end of main street on the west side. A skating rink and a dance floor. Week nights was skating, Saturday night was dancing. Wooo Hooo
AND would I like to step back into the 40's, 50's and 60's YES INDEEDY !!! I SURELY WOULD. but not to be, and I don't have any photos to go by. Wish I did.
And what's sad to me now is that I was here in the 50s and 60s and didn't pay any attention. :(
It's the older but wiser thing again! :D
Boy, do I feel dumb !!!! I don't know how I missed Patryn's post -- guess she answered all the "stuff" I was yakking about.
If I had read that, I wouldn't have gone on and on like I did. Sorry, Patryn...will try to wake up next time before I start typing.
Guess I'll go sit in the corner for a while. lol lol
You're okay, Jo. That area of town was where I grew up, so most of it is pretty familiar to me. Howard Muilenburg (pronounced MY-LIN-BERG) and his wife, Beth, and son, Ted, went to our church, so I remember their family. Beth was connected to the Elk County Superintendent of Schools office, I think, and when they left Howard and moved to Emporia, she taughtr at KSTC there.
George Criger had a weekly auction, furniture, tools, and anything else anyone wanted to bring to sell. It was either in the old Lee Roberts building or next to it where Howard Muilnburg's Grocery was I am not sure which. In the early days those buildings were nearly always occupied.
Frank Winn
Beth Muilenberg was County Superintendent. They lived in Emporia they same time we did when Frank was finishing his college. I used to see them once in awhile.
Myrna
Jeese.... a skating rink... how cool.
I wish there were more pictures.
THAT is why I wish I could go back in time.. ( with my camera and camcorder of course) to record history...
( like I am doing now :) )
And also to invest in a few things.. LOL