The State of Connecticut web site states that these guns were found inside Sandy Hook Elementary School:
#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine
#2. Glock 10 mm handgun
#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun
The medical examiner stated all fatalities inside the school (with the exception of Lanza, whose autopsy had not yet been conducted at the time of the press conference I saw) were caused by the Bushmaster ("the long gun").
I've seen numerous references made recently that the shootings were committed with the handguns. Has there been an official update or retraction of some kind that I missed?
Site last modified 1/23/13:
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284
Don't believe what you see on t.v.
indygal,
It all depends on who they talk too and which report you read. The day it happened they all said the killer had two pistols and the AR-15 was still in the car. Then a couple days later that "thing" they called the coroner came out and said the 8-9 children he autopsied were all shot with a "high powered rifle" which by most definitions a .223 caliber is not consider a high powered round. Since then there have been people close to the investigation that say 4 pistols were found inside the school and no rifle. So who are we supposed to believe ?
Have you watched any videos of the coroner when he gave press interviews ? He comes across as a complete idiot and acts like he is auditioning to star in a comedy movie.
If we are to believe that web site you posted it says there was the AR and a "high capacity 30 round magazine" NOTE---not magazines--plural
Even though a magazine holds 30 rounds most people do not load them to full capacity---weakens the spring and causes more jams. So lets say he had 28 rounds in the magazine and the coroner said the children were shot 11 times per child ---then the math still doesn't add up.
I wonder if we will ever know the truth.
I'm aware of the conspiracy theory. I agree there were a lot of holes in the story (and still are), butI don't buy the entire "hoax" argument either. The site is the State of Connecticut web site.
I'm referring specifically to Robert's comment in a different thread, that states:
"WHAT CONSTITUTES AN ASSAULT RIFLE, especially one that was not used in Newtown's school shooting. That as we all know was 2 9mm pistols.---Robert"
I was questioning the "as we all know" ... because I certainly didn't. So I'm asking. :D
Thanks for posting that video, Varmit. There are so many unanswered questions. On the day of the shooting I was telling my wife how strange it was that for a city block cars were parked everywhere but it looked like to me the ambulances were at least a block away from the school. Shouldn't they have left a path for the ambulances to get closer?
Was it only two or three people that even got loaded on to ambulances to get rushed to a hospital ? Wouldn't you think that every victim would have been loaded up and taken to a trauma center to try and save their life ?
Then there was that part where the bodies of the children laid inside the school for at least 24 hours while they did their investigation. As a parent and grand parent if my baby was there they would have to kill me before I would allow that
Jar,why would you believe they left those dead kids in the school for 24 hours? That has to be wrong. Scenes just aren't worked that way, unless it's a cave in or some situation where the bodies aren't easily accessible. No family members would be expected to wait like that and there are medical reasons too. If you don't want to hear from me,I'm sure Janet could explain it.
I also heard that some of the bodies were left in place until the following week so that the scene could be processed. Lots of misinformation around, almost like the Kennedy assasination. :P
Its called a Red Flag ya'll. Fact of the matter is that we will never know exactly what happened and how. The current adminstration needs to disarm the american populace. The easiest way to do this is to have a hash of shootings that shock the public into going along with their plans. First, it'll be an assault weapons ban, then registration for all weapons, then confiscation. There is more to this than simple gun violence. Ask yourself why China would be calling for the disarming of the american population? Why, in Gods name, would the POTUS continue implenting policies that are killing this country's economy? Why would the DHS be gearing up for massive "civil unrest"? Its all part of a bigger picture. When you look at all of it combined it comes together.
Six, I heard the same thing, but didn't believe it. I know some of the injuries were incompatible with life, but between cameras and tape, there was no reason I know of professionally to leave those poor kids there for more than a few hours to make morgue arrangements for so many bodies..with the families frantically waiting. That's awful.
Varmit, you make it sound like somebody was hired to kill those kids for political purposes. If so, then why those kids?How did some one choose?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 27, 2013, 09:58:34 AM
... like somebody was hired to kill those kids for political purposes. If so, then why those kids?How did some one choose?
While I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory in this case, you're silly question deserves an answer...
The same way the attackers on 9/11 chose their victims, the same way any terrorist (political or otherwise) chooses their targets/victims... based on the softness of the target and the likelihood of producing the desired results: terror, confusion & distracting knee jerk responses. If, and only if, this were a 'planned' operation, it was a success based on those desired outcomes.
Hey, speaking as someone who is in and out of schools on a regular basis, I hardly call that question silly.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 27, 2013, 09:58:34 AM
...why those kids?How did some one choose?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on January 27, 2013, 10:19:58 AM
....I hardly call that question silly.
In the context of a planned attack... Really? Really???
Sure, I have to decide whether to start packing again.
Diane, I am not saying that anyone was hired, I am saying however, that the offical story stinks like rotten eggs! As for our gov't doing it, why does that seem so far fetched considering the actions it has taken in the past? Bear in mind that the adminstration needs a reason to push its agenda of gun control, "never waste a good crisis" remember?
Damnit Varmit---will you ask her where she has to pack to go---again ? She has spent a lot of time typing out her response to tell you where she has traveled to in this world to lend her expertise in fire fighting, school teacher, riding in an ambulance, chef, weapons expert and a host of may more things. Don't make her waste that response she so feverishly labored over. While you're at it ask her what "started riding in the ambulance in the early 70's" means. Hell, I rode in the Game wardens truck once---wonder if that made me a warden ?
Quote from: jarhead on January 27, 2013, 12:29:55 PM
Hell, I rode in the Game wardens truck once---wonder if that made me a warden ?
But did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express. too?
Nope...I started riding the Aetna ambulance in Aug.1969. (I remember that first call very well ).We only needed an advanced Red Cross card in those days. I took the new national ambulance course in 1970. I started teaching the ambulance courses for the state in 1974. It was decided that with all the trained people coming home from Viet to people at home.
The Huey pilots were offered chances to become paramedic pilots and were 'way superior to anything already available. The Delaware State Police aviation unit started shortly after that. Many other states did the same. It was a big national Dept. of Transportation program.They were trying to make an impact on vehicle accident injuries. In those days there were no Hospital ER doc specialties either. All docs took rotations,no matter what kind of doc it was. I won't bore the short attention span people with all the different kinds of training busy EMT's have to have, plus many extra hours of con ed every year. One can't help but get a lot of experience in diverse areas. If I do tell it, I'm accused of bragging. That's a real shame. I can't share, because you are the people who just want to be able to call 911 and get what ya need. Don't bother with the details.....just show up, prepared to deal with anything from farm accidents to cave ins to chemical spills and explosions ,serious burns ,uncooperative drunks, train derailments and overturned trailers loaded with pigs. And yes, I did ride in the game warden's truck one time ;) .We had an ATV accident 'way off the road in a park and he took us all to the patient in his truck. Luckily there was just a broken ankle. We splinted him up and took him in the truck to the waiting ambulance back on the hard road.