I went to Academy today to buy a different gun I wanted and some more 223 ammo. The lines for people filling out papers to purchase guns was so long I finally give up and left. Everyone I talked to was deeply saddened over the terrible tragedy in Connecticut and the senseless killing of children. Being a parent and Grandparent I cannot imagine the pain that those parents are feeling.
Frank,
People are buying up guns because they are scared---as they should be. There are just too many crazies out there. The left is already gearing up, using this tragedy, to dis-arm us. That crazy SOB didn't need a gun to kill all those children. He could of used a machete or baseball bat and killed just as many. If he didn't want to see the carnage up close and personal, he could have loaded his car with as many full gas cans as it could hold---get a good run at the school and bash into it. Death toll would probably been higher than what it was.
http://anarchistsoccermom.blogspot.com/2012/12/thinking-unthinkable.html
This lady has nailed it as to what is wrong. Not guns.
Ron, I agree 100%. In China last week a nut stabbed 22 children to death. People have no clue how bad it will be if guns were outlawed. The blackmarket in guns would be huge. Given the great success our government has had in controlling Meth, Cocaine, and Marijuana, every criminal mind in America would have an aresenal.
Ron, it seems to me the idiot in Connecticut's Mother should have had her guns locked in a steel safe. Apparently she knew her son had mental problems and was slipping further and further away. I think anyone that has guns should have them in a secure safe, especially if they have children of any age in the house.
True Frank, but I will say again---you don't need a gun if you are intent on killing people.
Great post Bull
Quote from: jarhead on December 17, 2012, 06:24:59 PM
True Frank, but I will say again---you don't need a gun if you are intent on killing people.
Great post Bull
Big Ron, you are right, a friend reminded me that in the Bombing of the Murrah Buliding in Oklahoma city, not a shot was fired, yet 168 people died, 19 of them were children under the age of 6, and 680 people were injured.
It will end up that only the crooks have the guns. We just had two policemen shot point blank in the head by a drug dealer. He had a record of past problems with guns and drugs. The good side is he would not come out and fired back from the house he was hiding in they killed him. Point being, my tax dollars will not be spent on him for the next 30years.
Cheaper than Dirt has stated today on Facebook and their website that they have "temporarily suspended online sales of firearms", without an explanation. Below that they mention "During this temporary suspension, we will be reviewing our policies and promotions." (Edit: Apparently they are also jacking up prices on AR-15 related gear, according to posts on Facebook. Magazines that normally sell for around $15 are up to $60).
Dick's Sporting Goods has come out today and said they will be suspending sales of "modern sporting rifles" nationwide specifically because of the shooting.
Aaaaaand it begins, most likely. Probably should stock up on ammo and guns ASAP just to be on the safe side.
Edit: There are also some reports that Wal-Mart is changing how they sell guns but I haven't seen anything specific yet.
Academy Sports + Outdoors has removed "modern sporting rifles" from their website. Haven't seen word if that is just website specific or will be in store as well.
Quote from: jarhead on December 17, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
People are buying up guns because they are scared---as they should be. There are just too many crazies out there. The left is already gearing up, using this tragedy, to dis-arm us. That crazy SOB didn't need a gun to kill all those children....
The most crazy... the ones who can do more damage than a nut case in CN are working in Washington D.C. and in state and local governments across the country. Sadly, while our citizenry, egged on by talking heads on TV, are busy wasting time trying to figure out why mental cases do crazy things the nut jobs in government will be busy doing the craziest thing in history... conspiring to destroy yet another fragment of the Constitution.... facts be damned.
Buying guns to protect oneself from a maniac at a school or theater (generally gun-free zones by the way) is a crap shoot... arming to defend against tyranny might be a wiser motivation.
"If you need to protect yourself, a handgun is good enough. That a 20-year old can get his hands on [an assault rifle] is pathetic."
This is a quote from a person attending the funeral of one of the teachers at Sandy Hook school. I think this nonsense on blaming the gun instead of the mad man, has went about far enough. Does this person think it's pathetic that a 18 or 19 year old military person can get his / her hands on an assault weapon to defend their self ? Now Obama has appointed that idiot Biden to get something done about guns. Yea, the same Biden that has a history of being ant-gun. Want to bet if his secret service detail are only armed with single shot weapons ?
Quote from: Patriot on December 18, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
The most crazy... the ones who can do more damage than a nut case in CN are working in Washington D.C. and in state and local governments across the country. Sadly, while our citizenry, egged on by talking heads on TV, are busy wasting time trying to figure out why mental cases do crazy things the nut jobs in government will be busy doing the craziest thing in history... conspiring to destroy yet another fragment of the Constitution.... facts be damned.
Quote from: jarhead on December 19, 2012, 04:42:25 PM
Now Obama has appointed that idiot Biden to get something done about guns. Yea, the same Biden that has a history of being ant-gun. Want to bet if his secret service detail are only armed with single shot weapons ?
I rest my case.
Quote from: jarhead on December 19, 2012, 04:42:25 PMDoes this person think it's pathetic that a 18 or 19 year old military person can get his / her hands on an assault weapon to defend their self ?
What about the members of our military only a few years older (I don't know... what, 23-25?) that can fly aircraft equipped with weapons of substantially higher destruction? :P
You know what might scare the lefties worse MT ? it might be a 18-20 year old on the radio telling the Jet Jockey where to drop his pay load. :D
You know... I bet a lot of those younger guys are capable of flying drones due to being good at video games. Just searched around and found an article about an 18 year being so good at it that they brought him home from Iraq to teach other how to fly drones. :D
Update on Cheaper than Dirt. They updated their site, Facebook, and sent an email to those that are subscribed and seemed to aggravate real Americans further. Apparently they are trying to make it look like their decision to no longer sell firearms look like it was due to their shipping policy, being that they would try their best to get it shipped out within 24 hours and that due to demand they needed to change that to 72 hours.
Most people might have been able to believe that and from there turn around and support them again if it wasn't for them hiking prices on AR-15 accessories and ammo. I've heard supposedly that all mags that hold more than 10 rounds mysteriously became out of stock. Ammo that should have been no more than $300 was marked up to $899.99. The mags they were selling were apparently jacked up in price, some of them nearly 6 times higher than normal I believe. Seems pretty clear what their intentions were... and it definitely was not due to some silly "policy change".
These statistics are provided by... the FBI.
(http://machzracing.com/pictures/Murders%20in%20US%20by%20Weapon%20Type.jpg)
The numbers stayed relatively the same in 2011 as well:
Total Murders: 12,664
Total Firearms: 8,583
Handguns: 6,220
Rifles: 323
Shotguns: 356
Firearms (type unknown): 1,684
Knives or cutting instruments: 1,694
Other weapons: 1,659
Hands, fists, feet, pushing, etc.: 728
Difference between 2010 and 2011:
Total Murders: Down 332
Total Firearms: Down 192
Handguns: Up 211
Rifles: Down 35
Shotguns: Down 17
Firearms, unknown: Down 351
Knives, etc.: Down 10
Other: Down 113
No weapons: Down 17
Now isn't that interesting. Oh... and I'm also starting to see reports that a rifle might not have even been used in the school shooting. Would not surprise me one bit.
MT,
All the early reports on the day of the shooting were saying the killer had two 9 mm pistols in the school but they found a AR-15 in the back of his mothers car, outside the school. The cops went as far as saying what kind of pistols they were. It was like the next day before they started saying all the killings were done with the rifle. Don't want to waste a crises you know, when it can be used for our Liberal agenda