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Hope you come back to the forum more regularly. You have been missed :)

Ditto on that.

I just noticed they were both logged on and thought I would say something. I hope they saw my post. It made me remember all the debates we had before the last Presidential Election. We had a really good debate among a wide range of views on a many topics. Sometimes we got bruised a little, but we were friends. I hope people come back. 

Rudy
Dale
Flo
Frank
Tobina
Pepelect
Missouri Shewolf (Flo's Daughter)
ddurbin
Flintaqua
elk@kc
and many many more. I know you all are on Facebook. I dont do Facebook. Come Back

I remember when Wilma and a young late grade school member used to welcome all new members. Followed promptly by the rest of us. If you remember the days here on the forum before Barack Obama got elected. Come Back. You are missed.

Wald o Catwoman Indygal  Dee Gee (still reads never posts)  Knut,  the list goes on and on. Any one here before the last Presidential  election come back. The forum needs you in my opinion.

Really, we need you or at least post and give us a reason for not coming back and sharing your opinions.

Heather, Rudy and Dale still visit face book and are just as friendly as ever .Of course Heather is older and is quite a delightful young lady, as is Brody Hurt's older sister Kylie.

Quote from: Fire Elk on October 08, 2012, 11:15:52 PM
Wald o Catwoman Indygal  Dee Gee (still reads never posts)  Knut,  the list goes on and on. Any one here before the last Presidential  election come back. The forum needs you in my opinion.

You are kind to remember me... ;)  The Forum doesn't need the nastiness that my presence seemed to invite on the part of some of the "in crowd".  Rather than perpetuate that particular form of insanity, I removed myself, with the exception of the Poetry board.  I do miss my Elk Countians...Greatly.  I miss the genteel exchange that used to exist.  It was a rare thing.

     How's teaching going Cat ?  Don't worry, Diane has managed to perpetuate all the nasty without you. You never were that nasty, just opinionated.

LOL  ;D...Me?  Opinionated???  Surely you jest... ;)  This year has been the best year of teaching I've ever had, I'd have to say...Year 26 has been fantabulous.  I am blessed.   :angel:

Cat, if a teacher has a good year that means the students had a good year.  Thanks for that!

However, I wasn't sure that fantabulous was a real word, so I looked it up..............it is.  So, you taught the old man something new today.  Thanks for that, too!

Keep on keepin' on!

Larryj

Thanks Bull, I REALLY appreciate your extra kind unsolicited comment.
Ya serve a nasty to me, just like in tennis, I'll lob it back. I don't start this stuff usually, but I won't put up with it either...don't like it, you are free to not read it. ::)

Sorry Mr. Elk for letting Bull lead me into an off thread rebuttal. I shouldn't  have allowed him to sucker me like that. Angie and Flo and Tobina and several others do communicate just fine without all the vitriol on Face Book and PM's too. Now I wonder why it is that we can all chat there, but not here? HMMMMM?

We know the answer.

It's gonna be a beautiful day and the weekend has promise for rain beautiful rain.
I hope everyone get's their share and enjoy's it.
I know I will if I get it.
I wish everyone a great weekend.

We are all in need of rain. Good post Ross.

Quote from: proelkco on October 11, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
We are all in need of rain. Good post Ross.

I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 11, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

All the discussion about how negativity, hostility & personal affront has 'ruined' the Forum... and then this?  Personally, I hope no matter who wins the election that Ross & many other voters will inspect what they expect & will keep the politician's feet to the fire.

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 11, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

Good luck with that!
Ross doesn't think it will work!
Apparently you have something against free speech.
Not a very positive attitude from an Elk konnected, LLC Follower is it?
Ya, just can't handle the truth, isn't that your problem?
How can that be a positive thing?

When is the next Konnected Kounty Konversation, just before election time?
Is that the tool to relect Kopnnected Kounty Kommissioners "Ken and Liz"?
Is that a political function of the Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and their Elk Konnected, LLC

What else will they be pushing at that meeting?

No body from Elk Konnected, LLC or their Followers can answer a simple question, why is that?
Is it a secret society?

Quote from: Catwoman on October 09, 2012, 07:14:14 PM
You are kind to remember me... ;)  The Forum doesn't need the nastiness that my presence seemed to invite on the part of some of the "in crowd".  Rather than perpetuate that particular form of insanity, I removed myself, with the exception of the Poetry board.  I do miss my Elk Countians...Greatly.  I miss the genteel exchange that used to exist.  It was a rare thing.

I understand the reason you no longer post. I hope you post more of your poetry. If I could figure how to get all the people that have left the forum to post again I would. If I could convince those that post now how to do so without the bullying, I would.  It was a better forum with opinions from a wide variety of people. Back 4 to 5 years ago. That was a better forum. I don't know how to convince everyone that that was better than what we have now.

If I knew how to do it, I would share with you and maybe it would happen.  As it is, all we can do is continue our friendly posts and hope that others will follow.

Thanks, Fire, for trying.  I really do miss the friendly repartee that we used to have.

Quote from: Fire Elk on October 17, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
I understand the reason you no longer post. I hope you post more of your poetry. If I could figure how to get all the people that have left the forum to post again I would. If I could convince those that post now how to do so without the bullying, I would.  It was a better forum with opinions from a wide variety of people. Back 4 to 5 years ago. That was a better forum. I don't know how to convince everyone that that was better than what we have now.

You want to blame everyone else, how about accepting some responsibility for your own actions and I quote right from this thread:

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 11, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

How snide is that remark? "shut Ross up"

Perhaps the forum posts prior to Elk Konnected, LLC were different, I don't know. But politics is a touchy thing isn't and some people just don't like the truth or like to give truthful answers do they? So the ball rolls and rubs some people wrong, right? So the snide remarks and name calling happens, right.

But the only people that have the say and control of this forum are the owners, right?

Quote from: Ross on October 17, 2012, 08:23:30 PM
You want to blame everyone else, how about accepting some responsibility for your own actions and I quote right from this thread:

How snide is that remark? "shut Ross up"

Perhaps the forum posts prior to Elk Konnected, LLC were different, I don't know. But politics is a touchy thing isn't and some people just don't like the truth or like to give truthful answers do they? So the ball rolls and rubs some people wrong, right? So the snide remarks and name calling happens, right.

But the only people that have the say and control of this forum are the owners, right?

Ross, I am not Elk@KC. So your quote is wrong. I don't want to shut anyone up. What I want to do is have all of the voices without the bullying. Go back and read the forum from 4 to 5 years ago. It was a diverse group of voices and once in a while mean. But we easily got over the bad spots.  That is not the case now.

Quote from: Ross on October 17, 2012, 08:23:30 PM

...But the only people that have the say and control of this forum are the owners, right?

Ross, yes they have the ultimate control. The rest of us have control of what we say, how we interact with others on the forum, and the community we build with the free forum the owners provide. It was better 4 to 5 years ago. If I can figure out how to get it back to that I will. Take a look for yourself. Until then hold on, I will spar with you anytime. Full contact or not. :laugh:

Quote from: Fire Elk on October 17, 2012, 08:33:17 PM
Ross, I am not Elk@KC. So your quote is wrong. I don't want to shut anyone up. What I want to do is have all of the voices without the bullying. Go back and read the forum from 4 to 5 years ago. It was a diverse group of voices and once in a while mean. But we easily got over the bad spots.  That is not the case now.

Fire Elk, you are right on, it was better Pre-Ross and Pre-Patriot. Almost everyone has quit participating at all.
Everyone I have talked to says they are really tired of Ross's repetitive BS.

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 18, 2012, 06:38:51 AM
Fire Elk, you are right on, it was better Pre-Ross and Pre-Patriot. Almost everyone has quit participating at all.
Everyone I have talked to says they are really tired of Ross's repetitive BS.

Are the people you are talking to educated enough to realize they are not required to follow or read what they don't want to follow or read?

Do the people you refer to even exist, or are they a figment of your imagination?

And the reason I ask that, is because, I don't believe anyone is forced to read or follow what they don't want to read or follow?

Do you believe those people you refer to really exist, do you require that they read and follow what they don't want to read and follow?

If they are following a thread they get an email and in that email there is a line that says: Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here:.

If those people you are refering to really exist, this should solve their problem. For every problem there is a solution, pretty simple.

I am very happy to have helped those people with this problem, if they truely exist and wanted a solution.

Have a great day.

       People quit "participating" for various reasons, and I doubt seriously that Ross or Patriot are the major reason. I would bet more people have joined in because of their posts, rather.   :o

      The forum is no different in this respect than Facebook, once the novelty wears off, it no longer appeals to many.   ::)

Quote from Bullwinkle:
People quit "participating" for various reasons, and I doubt seriously that Ross or Patriot are the major reason. I would bet more people have joined in because of their posts, rather.

The forum is no different in this respect than Facebook, once the novelty wears off, it no longer appeals to many.
 

Bull, I would say you are a wise ol moose.
Still amazes me how there are those who cry about what is being said in the politics thread, but keep going back to it. Just like people who come upon a car wreck and afraid there might be blood & guts but still rubberneck when they go by, hoping to get a glimpse of the gore.
Why can't the ones who don't like the bickering just stay away from the politics thread ? Think I've said before the threads on hummingbirds and cats have no interest for me so I usually shy away from reading them but I damn sure don't begrudge them that posts whatever floats their boat.
For the record---hummingbirds taste just like chicken. :angel:

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 18, 2012, 06:38:51 AM
Fire Elk, you are right on, it was better Pre-Ross and Pre-Patriot. Almost everyone has quit participating at all.
Everyone I have talked to says they are really tired of Ross's repetitive BS.

You opinion is surely yours to hold, but the numbers below tell a different tale. While it's flattering that you ascribe so much power to me, I think you're you're wrong.  Those who visit this forum make free choices, and there are lots of choices to make.  They aren't forced to read anything... including what Ross says.  With an average of 112 folks online, almost 70 new posts & nearly 5000 page views each day, it would appear that you aren't talking to enough people.


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Jarhead and most of the rest of you know that I shun the politics thread, mostly because of the bickering and lack of useful information.  I have posted there when something bothered me or if someone asked me something.  But, for the most part, I find that there is too much bashing and not enough actual information someone could use.  I still read it in case something worthwhile gets posted, but I rarely comment.  If someone slams me or my thoughts (like that would every happen  ;) I would not respond.  There is an old physics adage:

FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION.

I think that if noone would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish on any thread, then that thread would go away. 

Just saying.......

Larryj

I suggested that about a year ago, it didn't happen. So, there are just some posts from certain people that I don't read or respond to.....works for me.
Lisa

Quote from: larryJ on October 18, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
Jarhead and most of the rest of you know that I shun the politics thread, mostly because of the bickering and lack of useful information.

I tend to disagree with you in the most part about the lack of useful information. This appears to be a very narrow minded view of the political threads.

There has been plenty of information posted. Some by our very own Konnected Kounty Kommissioner Hendricks the self proclaimed founder of Elk Konnected, LLC.

However,  there is a lack of useful information on the part of Elk Konnected, LLC Followers and it's leadership in responding appropriately to sincere and honest questions. So on that point I agree with you in that view point. Elk Konnected is really disconnected IMHO!

And, you to are entitled to your opinion.

However, to say there is nothing informative is quite far fetched, again, IMO!

quote author=larryJ link=topic=14464.msg198621#msg198621 date=1350573246]
I have posted there when something bothered me or if someone asked me something.  But, for the most part, I find that there is too much bashing and not enough actual information someone could use.  I still read it in case something worthwhile gets posted, but I rarely comment.  If someone slams me or my thoughts (like that would every happen  ;) I would not respond.  There is an old physics adage:

FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION.

I think that if noone would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish on any thread, then that thread would go away. 

Just saying.......
Larryj
[/quote]

So it must not be gibberish, since you have responded, right?
Nice try at what ever that was!
Please don't respond to this gibberish, thank you!

Ross, your posts on this thread in this section of the Forum are the exact reason why very few venture into the Politics section anymore, and why so many that frequently contributed to conversations in other sections have left the Forum.

You repeatedly tell us that we don't have to read the political threads if we don't want to.  But then when we don't, you bring your anti-Elk Konnected rants over to threads outside the Politics section, like you have here. 

So, then people end up not reading things in The Coffee Shop because they never know which threads are going to be polluted with your narrow-minded politics.  Eventually they just give up on the Forum as a whole.

Please keep Politics in the Politics section and leave the rest of the Forum sections for what they were created for.

Great idea Flint. Keep the politics in the politics.

Quote from: flintauqua on October 18, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Ross, your posts on this thread in this section of the Forum are the exact reason why very few venture into the Politics section anymore, and why so many that frequently contributed to conversations in other sections have left the Forum.

You repeatedly tell us that we don't have to read the political threads if we don't want to.  But then when we don't, you bring your anti-Elk Konnected rants over to threads outside the Politics section, like you have here. 

So, then people end up not reading things in The Coffee Shop because they never know which threads are going to be polluted with your narrow-minded politics.  Eventually they just give up on the Forum as a whole.

Please keep Politics in the Politics section and leave the rest of the Forum sections for what they were created for.

Great Post Charlie and so correct.

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Might we have a double standard here ? If you go back to Ross's first post on this thread, read the below, he is talking of much needed rain and wishing all to have a great weekend Two post later Elk jumps in Ross's foot locker with both feet,
telling people how to shut him up by a big voter turnout for Liz and Ken and Elk MAKES THIS THREAD POLITICAL , not Ross.

Quote from Ross:
It's gonna be a beautiful day and the weekend has promise for rain beautiful rain.
I hope everyone get's their share and enjoy's it.
I know I will if I get it.
I wish everyone a great weekend.

Quote from elk@kc
I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

Quote from: jarhead on October 18, 2012, 08:06:16 PM
Might we have a double standard here?

Why not?  Good point jar.

Quote from: flintauqua on October 18, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Ross, your posts on this thread in this section of the Forum are the exact reason why very few venture into the Politics section anymore, and why so many that frequently contributed to conversations in other sections have left the Forum.

You repeatedly tell us that we don't have to read the political threads if we don't want to.  But then when we don't, you bring your anti-Elk Konnected rants over to threads outside the Politics section, like you have here. 

So, then people end up not reading things in The Coffee Shop because they never know which threads are going to be polluted with your narrow-minded politics.  Eventually they just give up on the Forum as a whole.

Please keep Politics in the Politics section and leave the rest of the Forum sections for what they were created for.

Take it up with the moderator for this thread, problem solved, right?
Or is your narrow minded thinking that you have control of the forum the solution?

Well, I just find all this very interesting!
You chose to single me out, why?
Who started the political here yesterday?
It wasn't Larry J with his post was it?
No, it couldn't have been, you didn't single him out did you?
He was simplying knocking the political threads and the people on them right?
Even though he is one of those people who post on the political threads.
He speaks of bashing, but wait a minute, isn't that exactly what he is doing in his post bashing others?
Give that some thought.
Let's have a look see:

Quote from: larryJ on October 18, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
Jarhead and most of the rest of you know that I shun the politics thread, mostly because of the bickering and lack of useful information.  I have posted there when something bothered me or if someone asked me something.  But, for the most part, I find that there is too much bashing and not enough actual information someone could use.  I still read it in case something worthwhile gets posted, but I rarely comment.  If someone slams me or my thoughts (like that would every happen  ;) I would not respond.  There is an old physics adage:

FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION.

I think that if noone would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish on any thread, then that thread would go away. 

Just saying.......

Larryj

So, why didn't you tell him to keep politics in the politics section, since his was the beginning of politics here?
Rather narrow minded isn't it?

And there is this one:

Quote from: ELK@KC on October 11, 2012, 08:54:21 PM
I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

Very political, but did you tell him to take it to the political areas? No

If you guys bring politics to another thread and open the door I will walk through, very simple!

If you speak of Elk Konnected, LLC, it is politics because of the relationship to Elk County County Commissioners being Konnected Kounty Kommissioners, again very simple.

You knock the political threads, no matter what thread it is political, again very simple.

Perhaps, if the lines in politics in Elk County were not so blurred everything wouldn't be political.

I sure hope folks write in Mr. Wunderlich and vote for Mr. Hebb and then the blurr might disappear and then the Elk County Government might operate much more efficiently, and the Konnected folks can concentrate on providing a better quality of life for Elk County Citizens. LOL

My, my, very interesting. Whose tail is under the rocker now? How quickly you demand standards for others and poke fingers at them for fighting back, when you say whatever you want where ever you want with no consideration for the opinions of others. and it goes way back before yesterday.
Ross, why are YOU being singled out? Good grief, why do you think?  Pull up those shorts and take it, Bub.  If you are going to boo-hoo and seek asylum, look at how others might see you.Ya might finally have something get through that head of yours.
That is common talk among 9 year old bullies who poke and poke and say mean things until the child being bullied finally breaks and fights back. Then the bully, who always thinks what ever he says if justified,runs to someone else for help because he is being picked on.
  Yes, it's sad, but these are just kids who haven't learned any better. but hopefully will, someday. Apparently some have never out grown it and really feel they have the only opinion or idea worth hearing.  
 
 I'll bet a lot of you will be glad for the elections to be over just because of the constant aggravation.

Looks like Ross is doing OK. 

You liberals ought to try the politics section?  Diane does......

Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 19, 2012, 09:24:56 AM
My, my, very interesting. Whose tail is under the rocker now? How quickly you demand standards for others and poke fingers at them for fighting back, when you say whatever you want where ever you want with no consideration for the opinions of others. and it goes way back before yesterday.
Ross, why are YOU being singled out? Good grief, why do you think?  Pull up those shorts and take it,bub.  If you are going to boo-hoo and seek asylum, look at how others might see you.Ya might finally have something get through that head of yours.
That is common talk among 9 year old bullies who poke and poke and say mean things until the child being bullied finally breaks and fights back. Then the bully, who always thinks what ever he says if justified,runs to some one else for help because he is being picked on. Yes, it's sad, but these are just kids who haven't learned any better. but hopefully will someday. Apparently some have never out grown it and really feel they have the only opinion or idea worth hearing.  
 
 I'll bet a lot of you will be glad for the elections to be over just because of the constant aggravation.

If you try really hard, I bet you could be even more condescending.  Though your incessant whining elsewhere about people allegedly treating you the way you just talked to Ross brings up yet another multisyllabic word:  hypocrite.

I'm thinking you will never realize that you aren't dealing with a bunch of elementary kids here.  Your personal attacks & attempts to use childish shaming techniques just won't work.  They damn sure won't improve matters any.  Better call the principal.... maybe he/she can help you get the control you so desperately want.

 


 

 Nope, Pat, just telling the truth as quite a few see it.  You have different standards for different people, speaking of being a classic hypocrite. Just look in the mirror before you label anyone else.You and Ross just urge each other on...a real wolf pack when one adds a few others. And what does it accomplish?
You can be as condescending as you want, but you expect higher quality responses from others?. WHY? If you set the tone, others will follow. Look how Red eggs Ross on.  Go ahead Ross,verbally punch that little kid again..I know if you punch him out, I won't be held accountable..you will.  Safe, huh?
I just read Red's buddy and his blog on sodomy, among other things. Real quality stuff that is... And no reasonable answers on how things should be done to represent ALL People, not just a few extremists. FOO-YUK!
   We don't have the choice of just pretending large segments of the population don't exist or count. If they exist we have to deal with them. It's nice you are so sheltered from the rest of life and pretend other kinds of people don't exist. Don't you have signs at the border saying no "_________"( Fill in the blank) welcome here? Sounds real friendly, especially since you guys so happily label folks to suit your needs and don't care two hoots about who they really are or what they could contribute to your community.
Off track again, not that either Dale or Rudy would likely see it anyway. Ross should go over to politics...and I'll follow him over there with a copy of Miss Manners in hand. ;)
 I hope your new commissioners, whoever they may be, are up to the twists and turns and personal attacks they may have to face by a few who are going to feel owed..IMHO. I have a prediction, but I'll keep it to myself for now.
  Back to doing things that make a difference.

Actually, I did see this. I thought "Wow, how nice to be remembered" until I actually just read all of this and was reminded why I no longer enjoy coming here.  Life is hard enough without the nastiness that seems to ooze out of this forum. I'm sorry that I did read this. 

Hey, Dale, no worries.  This thread started as a kind invitation to those who haven't been around lately.  I'm sorry that it turned into some nastiness.  I, we, most of the members of this forum would like to see your continued participation.  You can always pick and choose what and who you wish to read.  Not all of us are mean and nasty.............well, I don't know for sure about Warph!

Stay with us.

Larryj

Quote from: larryJ on October 19, 2012, 02:26:34 PM
Hey, Dale, no worries.  This thread started as a kind invitation to those who haven't been around lately.  I'm sorry that it turned into some nastiness.  I, we, most of the members of this forum would like to see your continued participation.  You can always pick and choose what and who you wish to read.  Not all of us are mean and nasty.............well, I don't know for sure about Warph!

Stay with us.

Larryj

Dale,
I know Larryj thinks he is better then everyone else and that he doesn't do any bashing. But that's exactly what this post of his is doing. Why would he perpetrate the situation by Bashing people on the political thread, right here on ths KIND INVITATION thread. Just read it for yourself, simply by making the remark about bashing he is bashing, IMHO!

Quote from: larryJ on October 18, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
Jarhead and most of the rest of you know that I shun the politics thread, mostly because of the bickering and lack of useful information.  I have posted there when something bothered me or if someone asked me something.  But, for the most part, I find that there is too much bashing and not enough actual information someone could use.  I still read it in case something worthwhile gets posted, but I rarely comment.  If someone slams me or my thoughts (like that would every happen  ;) I would not respond.  There is an old physics adage:

FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION.

I think that if noone would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish on any thread, then that thread would go away. 

Just saying.......

Larryj

Let's see now, he says if none would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish! So why respond on a different thread?
Just saying!
Will he respond to this gibberish, let's wait and see!

Thank You!

Ouch! Sorry Dale. I was doing fine until that Bull Moose called me out ...again. I had been busy and gone for some time until he meanly brought my name up.They just won't quit and still feel justified with anything they want to say to anyone for any reason. I'm sorry I added to it.I should know better.

I hit you last---no I ht you last---no, I hit you last !!!!

If I hit you you won't get up. I cheat.
   I can't believe now Ross is going after Larry? One couldn't ask for a nicer more level headed person. Ross, have you come totally unglued? That was very much uncalled for IM not very HO. >:(

Quote from: Ross on October 19, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
Dale,
I know Larryj thinks he is better then everyone else and that he doesn't do any bashing. But that's exactly what this post of his is doing. Why would he perpetrate the situation by Bashing people on the political thread, right here on ths KIND INVITATION thread. Just read it for yourself, simply by making the remark about bashing he is bashing, IMHO!

Let's see now, he says if none would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish! So why respond on a different thread?
Just saying!
Will he respond to this gibberish, let's wait and see!

Thank You!

Ross you have totally lost it. I ask all of you, would you take the advice of someone like Ross that sees bad in everything.  He doesn't like people being asked to volunteer, he has tried to stir up people in the county against Howard, he has tried to stir up people in Elk County against West Elk and the people on the West Elk School Board who have done a great job in making it one of the best ranked schools in the area. Ross is against a group of people that is trying to make life better for people of all ages in Elk County. Would you take the advice of someone like that trying to tell you who to vote for. I know one of the new candidates running for County Commission and I like him but I won't vote for anyone that Ross is for, and I have heard others say the same thing. Think about it and go to the polls and let Ross know that that his constant repetitve trashis not the Elk County way.

Finally a person with sanity. And Diane you are much liked and your views are read and appreciated. Yes you were right in calling Patriot a hypocrite. Now lets sit back and watch Patriot and Ross be more hateful

Dale, it is good to hear from you.  Sorry that this forum has become such a mess that you don't want to be a part of it, no matter how nice you are.  The problem is that the people that are causing the problem don't see it as a problem.  Now I will be called out for bashing someone.  If anyone wants to contradict me, consider whether or not you are part of the problem.

Ross, to pick on Larry J and say he bullies people is asinine. He is one of the few standing on the moral high ground.

Fire Elk

Quote from: frawin on October 19, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Ross you have totally lost it. I ask all of you, would you take the advice of someone like Ross that sees bad in everything.

Talk about bashing, how low can you go, but to lie about a person?
And your statementis just that a bald faced lie.
Why?
Because, you don't know me and everything covers a lot of territory.
I am supportive of things in Elk County, you don't even know about.
So, will people listen to such twisting of words?

Quote from: frawin on October 19, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
 He doesn't like people being asked to volunteer, he has tried to stir up people in the county against Howard, he has tried to stir up people in Elk County against West Elk and the people on the West Elk School Board who have done a great job in making it one of the best ranked schools in the area.

Again, another low blow that is unsupportable. I have no idea what you are talking about.
I have never been against anyone volunteering; in fact I do my own volunteering without some organization telling me to.

As far as trying to turn anyone against Howard, again not true, that was going on way before I even moved to this area. As I have been told it is ancient history.

I visit in Howard and I shop in Howard and I use the veterinarians in Howard and I eat in Howard, now why would I try to turn anyone against Howard and still do all that while tying to turn people against Howard? Wouldn't I take my business elsewhere, if what you say is true?

Quote from: frawin on October 19, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
Ross is against a group of people that is trying to make life better for people of all ages in Elk County. Would you take the advice of someone like that trying to tell you who to vote for.

Would you take advice from someone that is less then forthright?
For instance what group is he talking about?
Oh, the Konnected Kounty Kommissioner Hendricks group Elk Konnected, LLC is that the group?
No, I'm not against the group, who are they anyway? You can't tell us can you?

What, I am against is the very strong appearance of Elk Konnected, LLC controlling our County Government, by holding the two out of three votes that control our county government. Don't we have enough of that type of control in our federal government? I don't believe any LLC, Corporation or business should be controlling our government, do you frawin?

Quote from: frawin on October 19, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
I know one of the new candidates running for County Commission and I like him but I won't vote for anyone that Ross is for, and I have heard others say the same thing. Think about it and go to the polls and let Ross know that that his constant repetitve trashis not the Elk County way.

Not to vote for someone just because you don't appreciate the idea that I like them is rather childish, and you have my sypathies.
You are running the same, quoting you letter for letter "repetitve trashis" again and again, IMHO!
And I have heard others say the same thing about you <- <- <- (only, I'm lying about it and admitting it!) Ain't it fun! See how easy it is.

And didn't your Fellow Elk Konnected, LLC Follower ask not to do politics on this thread;

Quote from: flintauqua on October 18, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Please keep Politics in the Politics section and leave the rest of the Forum sections for what they were created for.

I was actullly enjoying this thread until page 2  post # 15:

QuoteQuote from: proelkco on October 11, 2012, 11:21:19 am
We are all in need of rain. Good post Ross.

I think the best way to shut Ross up will be a big voter turn out for Ken and Liz.

I was ready to join in the nice jostling.  But not so much anymore.  This was started in the coffee shop...wow, just wow!
not so ready

Quote from: Fire Elk on October 19, 2012, 04:51:15 PM
Ross, to pick on Larry J and say he bullies people is asinine. He is one of the few standing on the moral high ground.

Fire Elk

I never said he bullies anyone.  
Read again, please!
Never used the word bully, did I?
So try to get it right, okay?
Thank You!

Quote from: larryJ on October 18, 2012, 09:14:06 AM
Jarhead and most of the rest of you know that I shun the politics thread, mostly because of the bickering and lack of useful information.  I have posted there when something bothered me or if someone asked me something.  But, for the most part, I find that there is too much bashing and not enough actual information someone could use.  I still read it in case something worthwhile gets posted, but I rarely comment.  If someone slams me or my thoughts (like that would every happen  ;) I would not respond.  There is an old physics adage:

FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION.
Larryj

Quote from: Ross on October 19, 2012, 02:44:15 PM
Dale,
I know Larryj thinks he is better then everyone else and that he doesn't do any bashing. But that's exactly what this post of his is doing. Why would he perpetrate the situation by Bashing people on the political thread, right here on ths KIND INVITATION thread. Just read it for yourself, simply by making the remark about bashing he is bashing, IMHO!

Quote

I think that if noone would react or respond to any meaningless gibberish on any thread, then that thread would go away.  

Just saying.......
Larryj

Enough said!

Quote from: readyaimduck on October 19, 2012, 05:24:39 PM
I was actullly enjoying this thread until page 2  post # 15:

I was ready to join in the nice jostling.  But not so much anymore.  This was started in the coffee shop...wow, just wow!
not so ready

It doesn't take much for Ross and others to bring their politics over to pollute the Coffee Shop.  Just because the door is left ever so slighly ajar, does not mean they have to push it on open and barge in.  

They do remind me of school yard bullies.  When they take over the monkey bars and all the other kids start playing on the merry-go-round, the bullies decide that they will take over the merry-go-round!

I wish they and everyone would stay true to what the Forum home page says about the Coffee Shop section "General topics and friendly conversations among the people of Elk County, Kansas.."

In reviewing this thread, which started out as a kind inquiry about silent members, I find that the first bit of "name calling" occurred in Post No. 7, page 1.  If any of you who are calling each other out on the bashing, bullying, etc., would review your own posts, you might be surprised just who is fanning the flames.

Can't we just drop the nastiness and continue with the kind words about members we like to hear from?

Quote from: Ross on October 19, 2012, 05:28:31 PM
I never said he bullies anyone.  
Read again, please!
Never used the word bully, did I?
So try to get it right, okay?
Thank You!

Enough said!

Ross, change bully to the word of your choice. He still has the moral high ground, you do not. Back to the politics section.

Quote from: Wilma on October 19, 2012, 05:35:52 PM
If any of you who are calling each other out on the bashing, bullying, etc., would review your own posts, you might be surprised just who is fanning the flames.

Can't we just drop the nastiness and continue with the kind words about members we like to hear from?

Wilma,

Even with disagreements you & I have had in the past, you are spot on here.  There's plenty of room for heated discussion in Politics and there's plenty of blame to go around for the direction this thread has taken, to be sure.

Angietown, Devynn-Leann, Dan Cookson

Quote from: Fire Elk on October 19, 2012, 05:39:37 PM
Ross, change bully to the word of your choice. He still has the moral high ground, you do not. Back to the politics section.

You sure did change it didn't you, and it did not work, did it?
But the words are not interchangable are they?
You'll do anything to put a person down, right?

Not nice at all.

Apparently you don't have the moral high ground,  what ever that means, coming from you!

You know Wilma is 100 percent correct.
My apologize, Wima. I quit on this thread, I'll try to play nice.

Bye-Bye!

marinemom, Anmar.

Have you noticed that FireElk is calling names, not to be confused with name-calling.  It would be nice to hear from those members again.

Sadly the Elk County forum is no longer enjoyable.  There is too much negativity.  Wish it could be like it used to be. 

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Laughing so hard at that last post, wiping my eyes at the thought..... that I just farted! 
Flood, so be it! Amen and belly up to the bar boys.   Oh wait...on second thought...welcome back Wilma!

ready to ?

Thank you, but was I gone?

Hefe de Vaca. Kinda mentioned her before but Pam, pamagain.

    Thanks Wilma, for putting the blame on me.  ::)  If you need proof of my comment, just look at the posts here by the aforementioned person. It was my intent to get a response from Cat, who has always been intelligent , if just a bit "catty", in her posts.  ;D

     That's all I got to say about that.

   Fire Elk, I doubt Tobina+1 gets on here , I believe they moved to Montana. Great cowboy, her man.

Though central Kansas may seem as far away as Montana from Elk County, Tobina and her family live in Brookville, KS between Salina and Ellsworth.

Tobina and two cute kids now, a boy and a girl are happy visitors to face book where we are all still friends. Not Montana. Flint is correct.

Sorry, Bull, I didn't mean that you were to blame.  I just wanted to show how an innocent remark can escalate into something much worse.  When one person's name is mentioned and that person feels that they must answer the remark, then someone else chimes in and pretty soon the original intent is forgotten.  Everyone that accuses anyone else of being the things that I have read on this forum is to blame.  It might be better if personal remarks were forsaken.  Remember, if you don't have any thing good to say, shut up.

Quote from: Wilma on October 23, 2012, 01:14:26 PM
  Remember, if you don't have any thing good to say, shut up.

Even about Obuma, Wilma ???

If it has been said before, why does it have to be repeated?

Even if I call Obuma a blithering blatherskite book-making booby broken-down has been automated oaf miserable cackling coward lying chattering magpie know nothing numskull lily-livered twit mealy-mouthed rogue sanctimonious scatterbrain pile of
quivering quintessence of poop big eared foolish pusillanimous pinhead?!!? ... Huh? ???
,

That has all been said before, what I would like to see is more reasons to vote for Romney instead why not to vote for Obuma.

The best reason to vote for Romney:  If you don't the alternative is Obama.

Of course, one could vote for a Constitutionalist... the alternative to that is also Obama.

As I have said before in the Politics section, the US election on November 6 may be the most important election in America's history.  We have only two options here, Dee Gee: Mitt Romney or Barack Obuma... just like Patriot said.  Any vote for a third party or an independent is simply a wasted vote, a pipe dream, and an act of irresponsibility.

So we must choose either one or the other.  Whoever gets elected will have a profound and long-lasting impact not just on America but the rest of the world.  From my viewpoint an Obuma re-election will be a huge disaster, while a win for Romney will at least act as a halt to America's decline, and perhaps a start of her renewal.

Three very good reasons to vote for Romney (tho' there is a lot more then this).

1) Supreme Court Justices.  In the next four years there is the possibility that two will step down.  Obuma's next choice will probably be AG Eric Holder.  Do you want that to happened?  We need conservative picks and Romneys the man to do that.


2) Romney believes in handling the federal deficit in a fiscally responsible way.  Instead of imposing high taxes, an action which the Obuma administration plans to take, Romney wants to cut federal spending, creating an economic stimulus... something that this country has needed for the last four years.  In addition to cutting government spending, the real crisis in America is unemployment.  Romney's plan is based on creating jobs by increasing trade and providing Americans with necessary skills and education to acquire these jobs.  Additionally, America has the highest corporate income tax in the world, making it easier for companies to export American jobs overseas... Romney wants to cut the company tax to help create more employment opportunities domestically.  Doesn't that sound better than paying higher taxes?

To me, the most glaring mistake of the Obuma Administration... outside of the lies they have fed America... has involved his economic policies.  Obuma's 'American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" which aimed to expand jobs and create an economic stimulus, has created some... not many... new employment opportunities, but mostly failed to live up to its potential.  With gas prices rising and unemployment at 7.8% plus, Americans want another option... and Romney could give that to them.  He couldn't do much worse than Obuma has done this four years.  Look.. Ronald Reagan once said, "Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives."  I find this to be very descriptive of the problem we are facing in this upcoming election.  


3) Romney's "Five Point Plan"

"Number one, were going to have North American energy independence. We're going to do it by taking full advantage of oil, coal, gas, nuclear and our renewables", he said.

"Number two, we're going to increase our trade. Trade grows about 12 percent per year. It doubles about every five or so years. We can do better than that, particularly in Latin America. The opportunities for us in Latin America we have just not taken advantage of fully. As a matter of fact, Latin America's economy is almost as big as the economy of China. We're all focused on China. Latin America is a huge opportunity for us: time zone, language opportunities", Romney said.

"Number three, we're going to have to have training programs that work for our workers and schools that finally put the parents and the teachers and the kids first, and the teachers union's going to have to go behind.

And then (number four) we're going to have to get to a balanced budget. We can't expect entrepreneurs and businesses large and small to take their life savings or their companies' money and invest in America if they think we're headed to the road to Greece. And that's where we're going right now unless we finally get off this spending and borrowing binge. And I'll get us on track to a balanced budget", he said.

"And finally, number five, we've got to champion small business. Small business is where — where jobs come from. Two-thirds of our jobs come from small businesses. New business formation is down to the lowest level in 30 years under this administration. I want to bring it back and get back good jobs and rising take-home pay", said Mitt Romney (source: Transcript presidential debate October 22, 2012 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/us/politics/transcript-of-the-third-presidential-debate-in-boca-raton-fla.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1 ).

(3 1/2) ObumaCare.  It has to go or we lose doctors, nurses, medical technologist and yes, patients.  There are many things I could quote about how bad this is but instead, Google it.  

I'm not going to kid you.  What Obuma has done to America during his term will take years to rectify and put right.  I think Romney's business sense is what we need today to get us back on track.  Checkout Romney's platform at:  http://www.mittromney.com/

Read John Hawkins article: 5 Reasons Independents Should Choose Mitt Romney Over Barack Obama
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/10/23/5_reasons_independents_should_choose_mitt_romney_over_barack_obama/page/full/

Also:       
"7 Incredible Personal Stories About Mitt Romney That You May Not Know"
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2012/09/25/7_incredible_personal_stories_about_mitt_romney_that_you_may_not_know

Go to Romney's website and read. He has actual PLANS for this country! Obama's plans are just more of the same.....
Lisa

Quote from: Dee Gee on October 23, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
That has all been said before, what I would like to see is more reasons to vote for Romney instead why not to vote for Obuma.

Quote from: Wilma on October 23, 2012, 01:14:26 PM
  Remember, if you don't have any thing good to say, shut up.

Actually, we were raised with this message, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." Yep. By Wilma.

I would like to see everyone go to the polls on Nov. 6th and vote your choise.  Not how anyone else tells you to vote.  God gave you a brain and I'm guessing you will use it as you see fit!

Well, you know when you get to be "at that age"...one has a tendency to mince words. 
Wima does that and I find it 'purplish red hative' wonderful!    :-X
ready........ to retire and speak MY mind

3 Reasons Only A FOOL Would Re-Elect Obama!

http://unitedblackamerica.com/3-reasons-fool-reelect-obama/


Not one to "Mince Words," here is a picture of a smiling JACKASS:

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Got this from http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=20817.0
Hat Tip to tt11758 for posting it:





Got this in email and thought it was worthy of sharing.

Why is Mitt Romney Unlikable?

A lot is being said in the media about Mitt Romney not being "likable" or that he doesn't "relate well" to people.  Frankly, we struggled to understand why.

So after much research, we have come up with a Top Ten List to explain this "un-likability."



Top Ten Reasons To Dislike Mitt Romney:

1. Drop-dead, collar-ad handsome with gracious, statesmanlike aura. Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief.

2. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been faithful to her,including through her bouts with breast cancer and MS.

3. No scandals or skeletons in his closet. (How boring is that?)

4. Can't speak in a fake, southern, "black preacher voice" when necessary.

5. Highly intelligent. Graduated cum laude from both Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School...and by the way, his academic records are NOT sealed.

6. Doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, and has never done drugs, not even in the counter-culture age when he went to college. Too square for today's America?

7. Represents an America of "yesterday," where people believed in God, went to Church, didn't screw around, worked hard, and became a SUCCESS!

8. Has a family of five great sons....and none of them have police records or are in drug rehab.But of course, they were raised by a stay-at-home mom, and that "choice" deserves America's scorn.

9. Oh yes.....he's a MORMON. We need to be very afraid of that very strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and honest.

10. And one more point.....pundits say because of his wealth, he can't relate to ordinary Americans.I guess that's because he made that money HIMSELF.....as opposed to marrying it or inheriting it from Dad.

Apparently, he didn't understand that actually working at a job and earning your own moneymade you un-relatable to Americans. My goodness, it's a strange world, isn't it?

*****************************************************

Personal Information:

His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney

He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old.
His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of the State of Michigan

He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan

He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they have five children.

Education:
B. A. from Brigham Young University, J. D. and M.B.A. from Harvard University

Religion:
Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints

Working Background:
After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary.

After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as an attorney.

In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States.

In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.

He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.

In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.

Some Interesting Facts about Romney:

Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people.

Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply and many others.

He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight years.

He was an unpaid bishop and state president of his church for ten years.

He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three years.

He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years.

He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.

Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our country but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money, service and time than most men.

And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his income....
Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1% and Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%.

Mitt Romney is Trustworthy:

He will show us his high school and college transcripts.

He will show us his social security card.

He will show us his law degree.

He will show us his draft notice.

He will show us his medical records.

Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the United States.

You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and that he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or practice fiscal irresponsibility.

I know he has the ability to turn around this financial debacle that the current regime has gotten us into. We won't like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney's background can do it.

But, on the minus side, he never was a "Community Organizer", never took drugs or smoked pot, never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists, nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for G-d to damn the US.

Quote from: greatguns on October 24, 2012, 05:42:52 PM
I would like to see everyone go to the polls on Nov. 6th and vote your choise.  Not how anyone else tells you to vote.  God gave you a brain and I'm guessing you will use it as you see fit!

Where do you stand?  Select the set of candidates, then answer the 20 questions,
and you'll get compared to those candidates:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Quiz/Quiz2012.asp?quiz=Pres2012

So where in the world are Rudy & Dale??   (gotta be a country song inthere somewhere!) :o
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How did this turn into a political thread?

probably too much fertilizer.

Wilma, I think it turned into the fertilizer thread right along with half the other threads. ;)

LOL  omg...I would concur with that!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Santa Claus moves to Mexico

And we still have a political post that has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.  Is it that some people think that they can step out of bounds?

Nah...It's that it's far more comfortable to hi-jack a thread and twist it to another purpose than to openly acknowledge and deal with the reason for so many former Forum members being AWOL.  It's understandable, though...It's far easier to perpetuate what is than to amend any behaviors. 

Quote from: Wilma on October 26, 2012, 06:51:07 AM
And we still have a political post that has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.  Is it that some people think that they can step out of bounds?

Now, what was political about that?  
It was just one of those 'human interest' stories that Rudy would write about in his newspaper and one that Dale would find interesting, I would think.  The old fellow is just trying to make a peso or two.  Nothing wrong with that, is there?

I mean... it's not political like these:





or this...



those three videos should be in the political section, not the coffee shop.

The same with this one:





And Cat... A teacher's job is to take a room full of live wires and make sure they are well grounded... and you seem to be doing that.
Its great that you are having a super '26' years teaching.  It is one of the hardest and most rewarding jobs on this planet.  
Kudo's to you. [/font] [/size]

OK, Warph, just keep it up and Santa Claus won't come see you this year.

Hope Dale is watching the GA-Fla game.

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      GO Dogs

No response from Dale on the UGA game.  You don't think he's one of those Ga. Tech Progressives, do you?

I dunno... maybe badminton is his game.  Ya think?

[quotemaybe badminton is his game.  Ya think?][/quote]

Dare you to bring up badminton, which is a politcal gme!   :o
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ROTFLMAO, Warph thanks for keeping the thread going for me. :laugh:

Fire Elk :laugh:

Quote from: Warph on October 27, 2012, 08:17:17 PM
No response from Dale on the UGA game.  You don't think he's one of those Ga. Tech Progressives, do you?

I dunno... maybe badminton is his game.  Ya think?

Warph, even your commentary has fallen to a new low. I long for the days when your political commentary was part of a diverse group of views. While you are as funny as ever, now it is on this nonsense and not on real political discourse like the old days. Slappy is calling last call and it is time we all went home,

Fire Elk

I seriously doubt Dale would respond to WARPH about a foot ball game. Heh,heh,heh.

Quote from: Catwoman on October 26, 2012, 11:05:31 AM
Nah...It's that it's far more comfortable to hi-jack a thread and twist it to another purpose than to openly acknowledge and deal with the reason for so many former Forum members being AWOL.  It's understandable, though...It's far easier to perpetuate what is than to amend any behaviors. 

Boy howdy, ain't that the truth!! 

Just think that if Elk Konnected would openly acknowledge and deal with questions asked of them then most of that "vicious bullying" everyone is talking about would go away!!

And talk about amending any behaviors...just think of how much this community would pull together if our represenatives (ie commissioners) would stop with the chicago style politics or allowing private organizations to interfere with our county government!!

Cat you sure hit the nail on the head with that one!

And with that, my point of how words are twisted is made utterly and completely.

       Certainly would have to agree with you there , Cat.  ::)

Cat, some of these folks will take anything and repurpose it to suit themselves. I don't think we'll ever be safe in thinking a clear thought will ever not be twisted to some dark intent. Hence the evacuation of so many previous posters. It's a shame isn't it? 

You know, you guys are sooooo right!  Oh my goodness!  Lets just leave things the way they are and never change anything!  Why hasn't anyone thought of that before!...oh yeah thats right, THEY HAVE!!!

And thats why we are in the position we are in today.

Oh and just for the record it was Catwoman that started the hi-jacking of thsi thread with her implied insult in her reply #6 followed in suit by Bullwinkle #7, Greatguns #12 and Elk@KC #15.

I know, I know...I'm just bringing to light more of those pesky facts ya'll don't like to deal with.

By the way Diane, what "dark intent" did I supposedly have?

Quote from: Varmit on November 04, 2012, 06:56:14 PM
You know, you guys are sooooo right!  Oh my goodness!  Lets just leave things the way they are and never change anything!  Why hasn't anyone thought of that before!...oh yeah thats right, THEY HAVE!!!

And thats why we are in the position we are in today.

Oh and just for the record it was Catwoman that started the hi-jacking of thsi thread with her implied insult in her reply #6 followed in suit by Bullwinkle #7, Greatguns #12 and Elk@KC #15.

I know, I know...I'm just bringing to light more of those pesky facts ya'll don't like to deal with.

Bang!  Right on the mark!

       I wonder why you left out #10 and #11 ? Since you are all for presenting the pesky facts, how about all the facts?  I personally LIKE the FACTS, hence my first " offense " perpetrated in #7 post.

Uh Varmit, if you hadn't mentioned my name I wouldn't be posting. I don't recall mentioning your name. I was talking in general terms, but if the shoe fits....

Two days later and still no answer?  :o

Even if you hadn't mentioned my name you still haven't answered the "dark intent" question yet. 

Varmit,  I didn't hi-jack anything, I stated an opinion, just as you have.

Dale, I see you have logged on and are at least reading the forum. Unfortunately, my request for a more civil discourse did not take. While I wish that we could go back to the forum of a few years ago, I don't think that is in the cards. I have embraced the "dark side" in the vein of if you can't beat them join them.

And you become part of the problem. Gee thanks.
Lisa

Quote from: Fire Elk on November 17, 2012, 06:55:27 PM
Unfortunately, my request for a more civil discourse did not take. While I wish that we could go back to the forum of a few years ago, I don't think that is in the cards. I have embraced the "dark side" in the vein of if you can't beat them join them.

Quote from: farmgal67357 on November 17, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
And you become part of the problem. Gee thanks.
Lisa

Lisa,  I can see why you say that. Unfortunately, the move to make that not the case was not supported. I have no problem doing as the Romans do. If it changes I will be the first to go back.

      Excellent point , Lisa, but he enjoys it.  8)

A recent trip home to Grenola made me think about this forum.  When I got back, I thought I would see whats happening and I'm surprised to see my name mentioned here.  I find it interesting that many people are taking guesses as to why so many have stopped posting in the politics section, and the people with the most incorrect assumptions are largely the ones responsible for the degeneration of the quality of discussion...

Perhaps its best to ask those who have drifted away, why they have done so.

As for me, Life happened.  I have left the corporate world to pursue a second career, and I've had to go back to school to acquire the necessary skills.  I got engaged, moved, bought a new home, became an uncle, etc.

At the end of the day, I probably could have continued to post, however I felt like the level of discourse was quickly deteriorating.  This thread is an excellent example.  It starts off with several good posts, then quickly becomes an argument with name calling and bitterness.  Soon, we have a frequent political poster making circular arguments that make no sense, yet he insists he's right.  Then a group of people jump all over Diane for no reason.  Then the resident arizonan rifles of 3 pages of political posts that he copied/pasted from chain e-mails that have nothing to do with the topic or forum, an urgent plea to stay on topic and to keep political posts to the political section (which of course is ignored), and further arguments that just go on and on. 

Frankly, whats the point?  When I posted, i didn't come here to argue, to be called names, or to be the subject of racist rants.  I started coming to this forum because I wanted to move back to Elk County, and not only did I stop posting because of what went on here, I decided not to move back, not to move the business I had.

Its nice to be missed, but I regret that there isn't a respectful political discussion here that I can participate in.

     Sorry you feel that way. I personally value all input from visitors here.

We do miss you, Anmar. But as you say, life happens. Good luck in all your new endeavors my friend.  ;)

 Hi Anmar.They haven't done terminal damage to me yet, but they keep trying.  ;)

Quote from: Anmar on November 30, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
A recent trip home to Grenola made me think about this forum.  When I got back, I thought I would see whats happening and I'm surprised to see my name mentioned here.  I find it interesting that many people are taking guesses as to why so many have stopped posting in the politics section, and the people with the most incorrect assumptions are largely the ones responsible for the degeneration of the quality of discussion...

Perhaps its best to ask those who have drifted away, why they have done so.

As for me, Life happened.  I have left the corporate world to pursue a second career, and I've had to go back to school to acquire the necessary skills.  I got engaged, moved, bought a new home, became an uncle, etc.

At the end of the day, I probably could have continued to post, however I felt like the level of discourse was quickly deteriorating.  This thread is an excellent example.  It starts off with several good posts, then quickly becomes an argument with name calling and bitterness.  Soon, we have a frequent political poster making circular arguments that make no sense, yet he insists he's right.  Then a group of people jump all over Diane for no reason.  Then the resident arizonan rifles of 3 pages of political posts that he copied/pasted from chain e-mails that have nothing to do with the topic or forum, an urgent plea to stay on topic and to keep political posts to the political section (which of course is ignored), and further arguments that just go on and on. 

Frankly, whats the point?  When I posted, i didn't come here to argue, to be called names, or to be the subject of racist rants.  I started coming to this forum because I wanted to move back to Elk County, and not only did I stop posting because of what went on here, I decided not to move back, not to move the business I had.

Its nice to be missed, but I regret that there isn't a respectful political discussion here that I can participate in.

Well stated, Anmar.  I concur.

Same here.  I just wish that the people who think that foul language and name calling are acceptable would realize what it does to their image.  And maybe think about just who they know that might be reading it.  Prospective employers?  Children's teachers?  Your pastor?  How about the loan officer at the bank where you hope to get a substantial loan?

 Unfortunately, we lost. Ridicule is acceptable and character assassination is in favor in some circles.

Quote from: Anmar on November 30, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
A recent trip home to Grenola made me think about this forum.  When I got back, I thought I would see whats happening and I'm surprised to see my name mentioned here.  I find it interesting that many people are taking guesses as to why so many have stopped posting in the politics section, and the people with the most incorrect assumptions are largely the ones responsible for the degeneration of the quality of discussion...

Perhaps its best to ask those who have drifted away, why they have done so.

As for me, Life happened.  I have left the corporate world to pursue a second career, and I've had to go back to school to acquire the necessary skills.  I got engaged, moved, bought a new home, became an uncle, etc.

At the end of the day, I probably could have continued to post, however I felt like the level of discourse was quickly deteriorating.  This thread is an excellent example.  It starts off with several good posts, then quickly becomes an argument with name calling and bitterness.  Soon, we have a frequent political poster making circular arguments that make no sense, yet he insists he's right.  Then a group of people jump all over Diane for no reason.  Then the resident arizonan rifles of 3 pages of political posts that he copied/pasted from chain e-mails that have nothing to do with the topic or forum, an urgent plea to stay on topic and to keep political posts to the political section (which of course is ignored), and further arguments that just go on and on. 

Frankly, whats the point?  When I posted, i didn't come here to argue, to be called names, or to be the subject of racist rants.  I started coming to this forum because I wanted to move back to Elk County, and not only did I stop posting because of what went on here, I decided not to move back, not to move the business I had.

Its nice to be missed, but I regret that there isn't a respectful political discussion here that I can participate in.

OMG, girly man.... give me a break! 

Quote from: Anmar on November 30, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
This thread is an excellent example.  It starts off with several good posts, then quickly becomes an argument with name calling and bitterness.  Soon, we have a frequent political poster making circular arguments that make no sense, yet he insists he's right.  Then a group of people jump all over Diane for no reason.  Then the resident arizonan rifles of 3 pages of political posts that he copied/pasted from chain e-mails that have nothing to do with the topic or forum, an urgent plea to stay on topic and to keep political posts to the political section (which of course is ignored), and further arguments that just go on and on.  

Okay.. let me just respond to this..
I have to take a deep breath and try to get my poor tired brain to think before i post, and someone starts whining that I'm giving special attention to a few and letting them run the show ( whatever that always seems to imply)
Frankly.. I will be as straight up honest as I can with all of you .( without going into crazy blonde mode. ). ;D  I'm not upset nor am I even remotely agitated over any of anything in here.. You are all adults~~ but you all wear me out slick! Its exhausting listening to the ~well you called me a name so I'm going to call you one back"..and pick pick pick.. and dig dig dig.. ! Really People??? Come on..
Think about it~~~ Really... Step back and be honest..
And I will use this thread as an example..
And I'm going to be brutally honest and I will probably make some mad.. but I will say what my mother always told me..
If you get mad in those britches you will get glad in the same ones.. or~~ you will just wear them and stay mad..Your choice.

This thread started out as what I would consider an okay topic.. but knowing WHO started it.. I also knew that it was a pot of "poo" just waiting to be stirred so as to smell a bit.. There are some that take great delight in what they proclaim to be innocent recipe for a conversation.. but knowing good and well that it will turn up the fire so that they can back off and watch as the pot boils over..then be the first to cry foul.
People are so easy for some to manipulate..and there are some in here are definitely manipulated.  
Just throw a scrap out and watch them pounce on it..

I will also say that there is not one of us in here.. myself included... that hasn't risen to the bait before and gulped the worm off the dangling hook like a starving fish.. and let our mouth overrule out brains..NO ONE and I mean no one is guilty free of this. Why??
Because we are human!  Because there are people that we don't particularly care for .. and sometimes all they have to do is breathe around us and it sets us on edge..
I'm like that.. I know I am..! Not with very many.. Most all the people I know I can get along with. I may not care to be around them and I may not like the way that they are or the way that they do things.. Hell I might not even like them~~ but I can and try to get along with them to the best of my ability. But I will still snap and my give a damn will bust and look out. Do I feel a little foolish for letting someone goad me to that point? yes! But it still happens and I know will happen again.  :-[

Like I said, This thread started out as one of those threads that could have been ok and nice and had a few comments to it and then just let it lay..
And it seemed to be that way..
Then Catwoman got her little subtle dig in there..The Forum doesn't need the nastiness that my presence seemed to invite on the part of some of the "in crowd".  The IN CROWD?? What was THAT high school statement about??

Then Bullwinkle snapped up and added his 2 cents..
Then Poor Larry tried to gently steer it back to civility..
then Diane jumps in there and lobs her 'you kicked sand and so can I' 10 cents in..
then Greatguns always throws her minimal one liner punch in there at random .. then slides back to hide in the crowd..
Then Ross ( this time) didn't touch anything .. He simply had 4 nice sentences not pertaining to anything but the weather and the weekend.. and closed out.
Proelkco added a very nice sentence doing his best to level it out.
Then Bang.. here came ELK@KC and blasted it apart again stating the political crap throwing again. .
Patriot just pointed out then what anyone standing on the sidelines was seeing..( the truth)
and then Ross came back in and started making it all about Elk Konnected again..
Then of course the ever constant pot stirrer Fire Elk slipped back in to throw more of his phoney blatherings about.
Wilma .. bless her heart.. is trying to be nice to everyone and is sucked in by the "so called niceness' of what she thinks Fire Elk is doing..
Then Ross is back in there both barrels loaded ..  
Then ELK@KC unloads his outdoor toilet on the situation.. and it just slides downhill after that.. Fast....

And hey... I'm the first one to say that I have done the same things before.. but at least I admit it when I am being nasty...  Basically because when I get to that point.. It is my goal to be as hateful as I can be.. LOL`` but~~I get over it.. and try to at least get back to getting along.

Everyone else needs to take a breath and quit being so darn picky on everything..

And Anmar.. FYI~~ You are not the only one with a life and other obligations..
I am not in here hardly ever anymore..So I don't know what goes on in here on a conversation level.

We clean up.. do updates..run software IP files making sure spammers and hackers don't get in.. and that is about it..
Outdoor Channel has given Marshal and I separate contracts to work from this next years..so I am now taking care of all the social media for them daily from my office,  plus I still do camera work on locations.. I am Marshal's assistant and right hand man(woman) while we are traveling and on site locations with whatever needs to be done.. I have my massage business ...I do all the accounting for the Hardware store and D&M Guns.. plus Down Range. and most of all my family's bookkeeping and account plus Marshals and mine.I cook, clean , do laundry, yard work and domestic responsibilitys.  I have Shrine obligations.. sons, daughter in laws..family functions and grandchildren.. and I travel and am gone a great deal of the time and when I get a smidgeon of time I like to shoot in competitions whenever I get the chance..sometimes having to intermingle it with working PR for the Industry.
I'm not whining about my schedule..I enjoy my life.  I am busy ..no more or less than a lot of people.. but I can not babysit this place day in and day out.. I won't!

My life is a crazy zoo... so excuse me Anmar~~  for not monitoring what political threads and posts are out of its right category's.. Quote~~~ an urgent plea to stay on topic and to keep political posts to the political section (which of course is ignored)

This forum was set up as meeting place to discuss whatever anyone wanted to discuss..It cost no one anything to be in here..You have no costs.. no maintenance or any obligations for anything.. you can use it or choose not to use it at will.. there are no hours that it is open or closed.. No one is forcing anyone to come here ..to stay.. or to leave. It's all by choice..

Personally I think there have been many many interesting topics in here over the years.. And I think that lately there have been lots and lots posted and brought to light that the public would never ever have been informed of.. So I think that's a good thing.. even if it has brought out the snarling dogs..

I have once again got to pack and leave within the hour as my flight takes off in the morning for a week of working on location.. but I think Bullwinkle said it about right...

People quit "participating" for various reasons, and I doubt seriously that Ross or Patriot are the major reason. I would bet more people have joined in because of their posts, rather.  
The forum is no different in this respect than Facebook, once the novelty wears off, it no longer appeals to many.  

If you are one of those people who it no longer appeals to, that is your choice.. If you still come around for whatever reason.. That is your choice too.. But on both sides.. LIGHTEN up on thinking everything is about jabbing you.. just because someone says a little bit of something.. is not a reason to jump in there with both claws open ..And get back to debating and giving your side of what you think is right.. no matter that neither side will ever probably agree.. but at least all viewpoints are out there!  its okay to let some things slide and not jump on the bait. if it starts to get smelling in there.. try to change the topic.. and if you don't like a topic then go to another one that you do like..  or start one that you like.. but for the love of Lucy~~~ stop the sand and turd kicking.. PLEASE!! You're giving me gray hairs. ;D

     I love Lucy.

Good call, Teresa!  If you ever come back to Norco to shoot, let me know.  I would like to give you a big hug.   :-*

My take on this forum is........if you don't like what is posted.......ignore it.  If someone calls you something less than desirable..oh well.

Some have complained that the forum "isn't what it used to be" and that is true to some extent.  But, for me, there are so many other topics here that are entertaining or helpful or actually relate to an Elk County that many of us would like to remember.  As for me, I read what I want to read, post what I want to post without libel or slander and enjoy the many different aspects of this forum. 

'nuff said.  Move on.

Larryj

Larry, you also post without name calling and profanity.  I very much appreciate that.  Also, your topics are done with humor and veracity and not a lot of repetition.  I can be sure that when I am reading one of your posts, that I am not going to run into a lot of malarkey that you have already posted uncountable times.  Thank you, Larry.

Amen!! (If this high schooler can reply to this without incurring anyone's wrath, that is... ;D)

Quote from: Wilma on December 03, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Larry, you also post without name calling and profanity.  I very much appreciate that.  Also, your topics are done with humor and veracity and not a lot of repetition.  I can be sure that when I am reading one of your posts, that I am not going to run into a lot of malarkey that you have already posted uncountable times.  Thank you, Larry.

Awwwww.... what a sweet thing to say about ol' Larryj.  You are the 'Poster Boy' in her eyes, ol' buddy.  WOW... and no name calling and profanity in your posts.  Then I guess there is no one that deserves such a kind and thoughtful compliment as you, Larry.  But that word 'malarkey?' ... or is it 'malarky'... You don't think Wilma picked that up from Mr. Clown, Jolt'n Joe Biden, do you?  



Hmmmm... 'malarkey'.... I wonder what she meant by that?  


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Quote from: Catwoman on December 03, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
Amen!! (If this high schooler can reply to this without incurring anyone's wrath, that is... ;D)

A double AMEN to that, Cat... no malarkey.

Warph!   I cannot believe you mixed Politics and Religion in one post!!!!!!!!!!!   :o
LOL, the audacity!   lmao
(Great song, by the way!)
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I was using malarky long before Mr. Biden made it popular.  It is a nicer word than what most people use.

Theresa,

nothing in my post was directed at you, I'm sorry that you felt that way.  I can't help it if people have felt that the forum has dropped off recently.  I appreciate the work that has been done to set this forum up, however a community is only as strong as those that populate it.   I can see that politics has drifted into the coffee shop and other forums, thats actually pretty sad to see.  Perhaps some of the more regular members can serve as moderator since you are so busy.  Just a suggestion

     I would suggest you spell her name correctly, just a suggestion.  8)

Just having my punch and lost in the crowd in Piedmont America! ;D ;D

Quote from: Anmar on December 03, 2012, 09:57:33 PM
Theresa,

nothing in my post was directed at you, I'm sorry that you felt that way.  I can't help it if people have felt that the forum has dropped off recently.  I appreciate the work that has been done to set this forum up, however a community is only as strong as those that populate it.   I can see that politics has drifted into the coffee shop and other forums, thats actually pretty sad to see.  Perhaps some of the more regular members can serve as moderator since you are so busy.  Just a suggestion

;)