http://finance.yahoo.com/news/meet-the-largest-landowner-in-america.html?page=all
Is the USA communist?
This man and other "Big Dog" landowners like him are into Conservation Easements.
The little dogs and the big dogs are living off the government.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2012/09/18/the-nations-top-ten-largest-landowners-and-their-conservation-ethics/
Quote from: redcliffsw on September 30, 2012, 06:31:20 AM
Is the USA communist?
This man and other "Big Dog" landowners like him are into Conservation Easements.
The little dogs and the big dogs are living off the government.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2012/09/18/the-nations-top-ten-largest-landowners-and-their-conservation-ethics/
Wow, so if you have any conservation easements, you are a communist? Then why haven't the Koch Brothers and other Sons of the John Birch Society revoked John Malone's CATO Institute membership card, since he is on their board of directors?
Moderator - Since Red changed this from a mere informational post to a political one, probably need to move this thread over to Politics.
I've never heard of John Malone until your post and I'm not
much familiar with the Cato Institute. Regardless, it looks like
John Malone has few principles if he's into the Conservation
Easements. Also, Cato people may not be familiar with Conservation
Easements.
There's a lot of "fake" conservatives in this country and it appears
that you've discovered another one.
Quote from: redcliffsw on October 01, 2012, 09:22:42 AM
I've never heard of John Malone until your post and I'm not
much familiar with the Cato Institute. Regardless, it looks like
John Malone has few principles if he's into the Conservation
Easements. Also, Cato people may not be familiar with Conservation
Easements.
There's a lot of "fake" conservatives in this country and it appears
that you've discovered another one.
So, just who are the 'real' conservatives? Name a few, and please don't start your list with Ron Paul or Lew Rockwell, we are already well aware of your devotion to them.
And, I find it highly questionable that you are 'not much familiar with the Cato Insitute' since it was co-founded by Murray Rothbard and continues to be one of the nations most influential advocates for individual liberty and free markets.
Red, you don't know about the Cato Institute? My word son, ya need to check it out! Ya don't know what ya'll been missin'. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o
Quote from: redcliffsw on October 01, 2012, 09:22:42 AM
I've never heard of John Malone until your post and I'm not
much familiar with the Cato Institute. Regardless, it looks like
John Malone has few principles if he's into the Conservation
Easements. Also, Cato people may not be familiar with Conservation
Easements.
There's a lot of "fake" conservatives in this country and it appears
that you've discovered another one.
Redcliffsw, you sir are no conservative. What you are is a Regressive. What you are is Orthodox. Conservative is someone that wants to preserve the way things are and move forward or backward slowly with a good deal of consternation. I don't mean that in a bad way. It is what it is. Conservation easements when everyone understands the contract are the ultimate expression of free market and contract law.
Free market? Where do you get that kind of idea?
The USA is not supposed to be in the land and mineral business.
You'd better check further about Conservation Easements and
learn about 'em.
It would be interesting to know where the County Fed's stand is
on Consevation Easements. Are they for the landowners or
are they supporting the Fed's and the Nature Conservancy?
Quote from: flintauqua on October 01, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
So, just who are the 'real' conservatives? Name a few, and please don't start your list with Ron Paul or Lew Rockwell, we are already well aware of your devotion to them.
And, I find it highly questionable that you are 'not much familiar with the Cato Insitute' since it was co-founded by Murray Rothbard and continues to be one of the nations most influential advocates for individual liberty and free markets.
I'm not into following the Cato group, however I think black economist Walter E. Williams is
a member of Cato and Walter Williams is one of the finest free market economists in the USA.
There's a lot of real conservatives out there and there's no way I'd know who all of them are.
I know there are some real conservatives on the local level in counties like Chautauqua, Elk,
and Greenwood. Just need many more of 'em.
Quote from: redcliffsw on October 01, 2012, 05:04:15 PM
I'm not into following the Cato group, however I think black economist Walter E. Williams is
a member of Cato and Walter Williams is one of the finest free market economists in the USA.
There's a lot of real conservatives out there and there's no way I'd know who all of them are.
I know there are some real conservatives on the local level in counties like Chautauqua, Elk,
and Greenwood. Just need many more of 'em.
Do you consider Charles and David Koch conservative? Are candidates that are backed by Americans For Prosperity conservative? Is the Christian Coalition conservative? How about William F. Buckley, was he conservative? Just trying to figure out what makes one a conservative in your opinion.
Quote from: redcliffsw on October 01, 2012, 04:49:02 PM
Free market? Where do you get that kind of idea?
The USA is not supposed to be in the land and mineral business.
You'd better check further about Conservation Easements and
learn about 'em.
It would be interesting to know where the County Fed's stand is
on Consevation Easements. Are they for the landowners or
are they supporting the Fed's and the Nature Conservancy?
Who are you to tell me what I can do with my own property? If I want to give it to the government, Nature Conservancy, Ducks Unlimited, Boy Scouts, NRA it is none of your business. You sir need to better check out conservation easements.
Then give away your property rights to any of them if that's what you want to do.
However, I don't believe the Fed's ought to be buying Conservation Easements
or providing money to charities like Nature Conservancy to buy Conservartion Easements.
I've seen many Conservation Easements.
Quote from: redcliffsw on October 01, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
Then give away your property rights to any of them if that's what you want to do.
However, I don't believe the Fed's ought to be buying Conservation Easements
or providing money to charities like Nature Conservancy to buy Conservartion Easements.
I've seen many Conservation Easements.
I did not give them away I sold them and was compensated. It was a money making venture. Plus, my will on that land will long outlast me and you.
I
I get redcliffsw that you don't think the government should be buying conservation easements. There are many things the government does that we don't like. Yea, you don't like it. We are not a democracy we are a democratic republic, so those that we elect can do things we don't like. The constitution does not specifically prohibit the federal government from making investments, entering in to conservation easements. The Supreme Court has not forbid these either. They happen all the time. The best I can tell you is you have to follow the Constitution and bring it to the court's attention. I accept this as I have no problem with the way things are. I am a conservative. I support the status quo. If you want to change things being a regressive as you are you and the anarchists would do well by playing the system.
Quote from: flintauqua on October 01, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
So, just who are the 'real' conservatives? Name a few, and please don't start your list with Ron Paul or Lew Rockwell, we are already well aware of your devotion to them.
And, I find it highly questionable that you are 'not much familiar with the Cato Insitute' since it was co-founded by Murray Rothbard and continues to be one of the nations most influential advocates for individual liberty and free markets.
Flint,
Here's one on Cato from Rockwell:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/122297.html
Cato Attacks Ron Paul
Posted by Lew Rockwell on October 2, 2012 09:16 AM
The Cato Institute's foreign policy was always very weak tea as compared to Murray Rothbard's or Ron Paul's stand for peace. Still—though Cato was always unfriendly to Ron, since he was a colleague and friend of Murray's, and an opponent of the Fed—Cato was not as bad as DC neocon outfits like AEI and Heritage. However, now that the warmongering Randians have taken over, via the plutocratic, pro-Rand Koch brothers, that small distinction has disappeared. Here is the latest example.
Hey Red, why did you feel you needed to mention that Walter Williams is black? What difference does it make? What in your personality caused you to need to mention that? ;)
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 02, 2012, 05:48:16 PM
Hey Red, why did you feel you needed to mention that Walter Williams is black? What difference does it make? What in your personality caused you to need to mention that? ;)
What is it about left leaners that causes them to always be so acutely alert for the cannon fodder necessary to fire the 'you're a racist' gun? Always in the Obama/Biden mode. I think shrinks refer to such personalities/behaviors as hypervigilant. Interesting that hypervigilance is often associated with delusional or paranoid states. Which brings up the prospect of another defense mechanism.... projection. Ann Coulter was correct.
Patriot,
I can't speak for Red but I thought he pointed out that the Walter Williams he was speaking of was black so we wouldn't be confused, thinking he was talking about ol Walt Williams that lives near here.
Hyper vigilant? Better ask Ross .He invented it. He jumps on everything anyone says that disagrees with him..
Ross open carries a handgun, too, so he must be paranoid as well. Not. The truth is I've never seen him race bait like you did.
Hey, he wrote it, I didn't. Ask him!
Now if you really do have a white person out there named Walt Williams who writes lots of articles that are posted on here, then perhaps it was worth mentioning. Otherwise, why was it necessary to mention his race at all?
After all the disrespectful names you all call people, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. When one calls people monkeys and big eared chimps out of disrespect...well, what is one to think?
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 10, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Hey, he wrote it, I didn't. Ask him!
And now, in true liberal progressive form, you seek to avoid responsibility for you own reprehensible actions by laying blame back on the object of your original attack. Not unlike Obama: The buck always stops somewhere else.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 10, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Now if you really do have a white person out there named Walt Williams who writes lots of articles that are posted on here, then perhaps it was worth mentioning. Otherwise, why was it necessary to mention his race at all?
No Diane, you are the one who made an issue of a simple descriptive word. There is no other reasonable and rational explanation. An adjective was used in a sentence, and it was you who chose to focus on it as the core issue. It was you who took the adjective and made it 'bait' for a diversion to attack the poster's 'personality'. It was you who played the race card for some personal gaming advantage. It was you who so cleverly emulated the great race baiters in our society... Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, many in the Obama administration & campaign, and the staff at MSNBC. I'm sure they all appreciate your valiant efforts.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 10, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
After all the disrespectful names you all call people, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. When one calls people monkeys and big eared chimps out of disrespect...well, what is one to think?
And then you deflect again. All this days after the issue was brought up. Wow! Are you that much in need of attention? Talk about defensive. And you say it is the conservatives who are unhinged from reality. Really?
P.S. My memory must be failing. Can you please point out where I've called someone a ' monkey or big eared chimp'?
Show me where I mentioned your name Mr. Self Absorbed Smart Guy. Ya protest much too much and bleed and feel put upon much too easily. Why don't ya rant and tear your clothes while you're at it. I notice the original poster isn't making a big deal about it. Why does he need your help anyway? Even Ross said asking questions is just fine and I'm still waiting for an answer...and not from YOU! Patriot...Blah blah blah and I wasn't the only one who wondered...from a guy who is still fighting the Civil War from the south's, perspective. Or his version of it anyway. Now get back to the topic and try to count coupe somewhere else! I'm not impressed.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 11, 2012, 12:22:18 PM
Show me where I mentioned your name Mr. Self Absorbed Smart Guy. Ya protest much too much and bleed and feel put upon much too easily. Why don't ya rant and tear your clothes while you're at it. I notice the original poster isn't making a big deal about it. Why does he need your help anyway? Even Ross said asking questions is just fine and I'm still waiting for an answer...and not from YOU! Patriot...Blah blah blah and I wasn't the only one who wondered...from a guy who is still fighting the Civil War from the south's, perspective. Or his version of it anyway. Now get back to the topic and try to count coupe somewhere else! I'm not impressed.
Before you go off half cocked again, please notice that my comments (and your quotes) were in a response you clearly appeared to be making to me, and I still think you were race baiting. But to help you comprehend, I'll post the entire dialogue below.
Otherwise, your comments above are a predictable liberal response (read: attack). So now we're settled, Red is a racist, Ross is a hyper vigilant redneck & I'm a Self Absorbed Smart Guy. Your fascist attack tactics & dysfunctional projections are amusing, even if totally wrong. Sure hope you feel fetter. If not, I'm sure there's some guberment counseling center in your area where you can find solace.
As the hyper vigilant redneck has suggested many times before.... try to follow & comprehend....
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 08, 2012, 01:45:59 PM
Hyper vigilant? Better ask Ross .He invented it. He jumps on everything anyone says that disagrees with him..
Quote from: Patriot on October 08, 2012, 05:37:48 PM
Ross open carries a handgun, too, so he must be paranoid as well. Not. The truth is I've never seen him race bait like you did.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on October 10, 2012, 11:18:44 AM
Hey, he wrote it, I didn't. Ask him!
Now if you really do have a white person out there named Walt Williams who writes lots of articles that are posted on here, then perhaps it was worth mentioning. Otherwise, why was it necessary to mention his race at all?
After all the disrespectful names you all call people, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. When one calls people monkeys and big eared chimps out of disrespect...well, what is one to think?
Read #21 above for the next volley.
Quote from Diane
After all the disrespectful names you all call people,
Quote from Diane:
Show me where I mentioned your name Mr. Self Absorbed Smart Guy.
Hmmmm !!!!
Quote from: jarhead on October 11, 2012, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from Diane
After all the disrespectful names you all call people,
Quote from Diane:
Show me where I mentioned your name Mr. Self Absorbed Smart Guy.
Hmmmm !!!!
Just doesn't look right, does it jar?
If you think I care, you are sadly mistaken. Go ahead fire away, I'm wearing NOMEX. When you set the tone, if I'm in the mood, I'll respond in kind.I sure don't have to be perfect when you don't ever try. Now go bully someone else. I've got some new interns to work with. And what I called Pat is a condition,and a state of being, not a name.