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Title: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
10.  He's owned land here eight whole years.

9.  He's a natural-born politician, can spin and back-track his way out of anything he says that's proven to be untrue.

8.  No one hates Liebau more than he does.

7.  No one hates Hendricks more than he does.

6.  He can serve two districts at the same time since no one knows what's wrong with Elk County more than he does.

5.  Hates Liebau

4.  Hates Hendricks

3.  Refer to #5

2.  Refer to #4

And the number one reason to write-in Ross for County Commissioner is (drum roll please)

He's never actually accussed anyone of wrong-doing, he simply "asks questions"!
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: srkruzich on September 04, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
what i would like to know is why would ANYONE Trust their politicians??   Come on now, its a known fact that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolute.  Secondly with any position in any business if there is no accountability to the stockholder aka taxpayer, then there is always mediocrity as well as general waste.  When you don't question all authority, they will take control and exert their authority granted them in ways they are not allowed to.  IF this were not true, then why did the founding fathers implement checks and balances??   

Where are the checks and balances?  Outside of agencies authorized to watch them it is the taxpayer that is informed and knowledgeable about the proper workings of government.

I think Ross has a good understanding of what is proper and authorized, as does Patriot and several others on here. But for the most part  the ones who protest the loudest against what they are saying are the ones who do not understand the constitutional authority that government has and doesn't have. 

Seriously the things patriot and ross have brought up are not kosher.  They are not allowed by the constitution and are only practiced because they say its because its always been done that way around here. The truth is no it hasn't always been done that way. At some point in time it wasn't. 
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: jarhead on September 04, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from Flintauqua:
It is a big deal Ross. When you make an assumption and then post it here, you think if no one questions it then its right. Just because I or someone else doesn't call BS on your posts by refuting them does not make them correct


5. Hates Liebau

4. Hates Hendricks


Hypocrite ? You make the call Chuck. Seeing as you like proof
Could you provide the proof that Ross hates Liebau or Liz ? Hate is a strong word so I will call you on your bull shit---I mean BS
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: jarhead on September 04, 2012, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from Flintauqua:
It is a big deal Ross. When you make an assumption and then post it here, you think if no one questions it then its right. Just because I or someone else doesn't call BS on your posts by refuting them does not make them correct


5. Hates Liebau

4. Hates Hendricks


Hypocrite ? You make the call Chuck. Seeing as you like proof
Could you provide the proof that Ross hates Liebau or Liz ? Hate is a strong word so I will call you on your bull shit---I mean BS

Proof?  Just read the over a year of posts from Ross, what impression do they leave as to his feelings about Liebau and Hendricks.  He makes negative assertions about their character, ethics, actions, morals, etc., to the entire world on a near daily basis, often several times a day, and you would have us believe he has what, a mild dis-like of them at worst.  'Come on, Man'
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: srkruzich on September 04, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
what i would like to know is why would ANYONE Trust their politicians??   Come on now, its a known fact that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolute.  Secondly with any position in any business if there is no accountability to the stockholder aka taxpayer, then there is always mediocrity as well as general waste.  When you don't question all authority, they will take control and exert their authority granted them in ways they are not allowed to.  IF this were not true, then why did the founding fathers implement checks and balances??   

Where are the checks and balances?  Outside of agencies authorized to watch them it is the taxpayer that is informed and knowledgeable about the proper workings of government.

I think Ross has a good understanding of what is proper and authorized, as does Patriot and several others on here. But for the most part  the ones who protest the loudest against what they are saying are the ones who do not understand the constitutional authority that government has and doesn't have. 

Seriously the things patriot and ross have brought up are not kosher.  They are not allowed by the constitution and are only practiced because they say its because its always been done that way around here. The truth is no it hasn't always been done that way. At some point in time it wasn't.

All the more reason to put Ross in as commissioner.  If he has such a good understanding of all that ails Elk County, then who better to serve and turn everything around.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: jarhead on September 04, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from flintaqua:
Proof? Just read the over a year of posts from Ross, what impression do they leave as to his feelings about Liebau and Hendricks. He makes negative assertions about their character, ethics, actions, morals, etc., to the entire world on a near daily basis, often several times a day, and you would have us believe he has what, a mild dis-like of them at worst. 'Come on, Man'


You disappoint me Chuck. I thought you had proof instead of just an assumption. Come on---man---try again
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 04, 2012, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
He's owned land here eight whole years.


You failed to mention I have been a property taxpayer her for 8 years as well.
And a voter too!
Ownership is not a requirement to hold office is it?
But the number one reason not to write in Ross is he does not want the job.
#2 He is not asking for the job.
#3 He is an outsider.
#4 He is not inbred. (I believe this is to be the county joke) I apologize in advance if this offends anyone,

Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
9.   He's a natural-born politician, can spin and back-track his way out of anything he says that's proven to be untrue.

No- no Ross is not a natural born politician. Ross only seeks what Mr. Flintiauqua and Elk Konnected, LLC do not want to provide and can not deal wit and that is truthful answers to honest questions. I believe they want us just to believe anything they fabricate. I don't believe they can handle the truth. Just my humble opinion.

Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
8.   No one hates Liebau more than he does.

Now that is a complete fabrication Mr. Flintauqua.
You do not know me and therefore unqualified to make such a statement.
I have no hate in my body, soul or heart.
And that would be very poor advice to give someone to vote for anyone.
Shame on you. But I forgive you this ugliness.

   
Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
7.  No one hates Hendricks more than he does.

Now that is a complete fabrication Mr. Flintauqua.
You do not know me and therefore unqualified to make such a statement.
I have no hate in my body, soul or heart.
And that would be very poor advice to give someone to vote for anyone.
Shame on you. But I forgive you this ugliness.
#7 & #8 are very hateful of you in my opinion, but I do foregive you for it.


Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
6.  He can serve two districts at the same time since no one knows what's wrong with Elk County more than he does.


Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
5.  Hates Liebau

4.  Hates Hendricks


Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
3.  Refer to #5

2.  Refer to #4
#2 &  #3 continue the hatefulness and I am so sorry you feel that is necessary.
Hateful and Shameful but forgiven Mr. Flintauqua.

Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM
And the number one reason to write-in Ross for County Commissioner is (drum roll please)

He's never actually accussed anyone of wrong-doing, he simply "asks questions"!

Thank you for recognizing the truth on this occasion.
Those that claim to want to communicate with the citizens of Elk County citizens but refuse to answer honest questions are inadvertently admitting guilt of some sort, IMHO!
And your methods of attacking me simply confirm that thinking.

Yes this is all poitics. The politics of Elk Konnected, LLC and Elk Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and has nothing to do with love or hate. This is about seeking the truth which appears to be very elusive. But the threats and ugliness prevail.

Is this the Elk Konnected Followers way? This joke is at your expense, I feel sorry for you.


Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 04, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
But isn't it more fun to sit on the sidelines and take potshots at the people who were duly elected to run the county ? ;D That way Ross is never personally responsible for anything and nobody can accuse him of lining HIS pockets.
 It takes guts to run for office because one will rarely have the support of everybody about anything. One will make one "side" or the other unhappy most of the time.
 Ross is even retired, so he'd have plenty of time to devote to county business. No pesky job to get in the way. He could personally review every contract, keep track of every time card, approve every  county employees schedule for the day and count every stone that's laid so nobody gets more that anyone else.  He can follow the road crews around to be sure they are working hard enough and long enough to suit him. He can personally review the camp activities for each day to be sure they aren't "wasting" any time at free play, and approve the agendas at the fairs so he won't be disappointed ever again.  
 He can reduce taxes by firing local county employees, who will then have to leave to find work and lower the tax revenue even more, and then reduce county services to nothing... but there will be lower taxes. No more free anything, it's all pay as you go.
 He should then do all his shopping in some other county so he won't be accused of favoritism. He can memorize the long form of Roberts Rules so nobody will ever again slip up at any meeting.  He can read the Constitution aloud at every County meeting to be sure all those ordinary people are living up to it.
  I think it's a shame that someone apparently thinks that the ones that choose to remain silent, or are the silent majority, especially at meetings, are thought to be too dumb to understand what's 'REALLY ''going on. IMHO
 Perhaps  their voting rights can be taken  away somehow too, so only the "correct" Elk County people can vote. No new people may register with their radical "lets do something" confounded ideas.   IMHO
 No, of course there is nothing wrong with asking appropriate questions at a meeting, at the right time in a respectful way...I say a respectful way. But when it obviously becomes an obsession....one has to wonder.  No, nobody can be forced to post on the forum either.
If the way Ross twists what I say and the way he talks to me is any indication, and I'm just one harmless but interested person, some deportment classes, or some time sitting in a corner might set things straight.  ;D  
  Sure, he should run...if he has the fortitude.   Then he can see how much work it really is, and the fact that your time is rarely your own and you really will have to suffer fools who have their own agenda, and be prepared to have people remind you who you REALLY work for.
  Where did I get all this? Ross's own gripes at one time or another. Go for it Ross. The way a few talk you'd be a shoo in. But then, you would be one one of those politicians that Steve doesn't trust, wouldn't ya? OOPS...never mind. ::)
  Now remember, these are just my personal opinions, but are indeed true; you may reject the truth as you wish. I'm just having some much needed fun. Everybody, write Ross in anyway! ;D ;D ;D ;D Bring in some outside blood!
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: redcliffsw on September 04, 2012, 03:18:25 PM

Flinty, you must be a natural born socialist.  Your bend seems to lean that way most of the time.

And Diane you're no exception to the socialist causes.  If anyone rejects truth, it's you. 

Neither of you two objects to socialism and it's no wonder that neither of you would support true
conservative American candidates.

By the way, as far as I know, Ross has given no indication that he's running for any elective office.
I'd sure consider voting for Ross if I had the opportunity, but there's no way I'd vote for either of you
regardless what year your ancestors settled in Elk County.

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: redcliffsw on September 04, 2012, 03:18:25 PM
Flinty, you must be a natural born socialist.  Your bend seems to lean that way most of the time.

If your meaning of socialist is someone that has voted Republican for President, Governor, U.S. Senator, U.S. Representative, State Senator or State Representative, in all but two instances since 1986, then I plead guilty.  

Of course there are hundreds of thousands of Kansans (a hundred million or so nationwide) that have done the same as I, so I guess you are calling the majority of Kansans, and citizens of other states that have historically voted Republican, Socialists.

Of course you are.  Everyone knows that anyone to the left of Ron Paul and the Sons of the John Birch Society are Fascist, Socialist Commies! :P ::)
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: redcliffsw on September 04, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
You seem to have a desire to be called something more in line with Americanism.

You've never rejected a social program that I know, yet Ross has drawn the line.

Just because you're a Republican or even support a conservative issue like the 2nd
Amendment, does not conceal your favored European doctrine.
 
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 04, 2012, 03:53:56 PM
Uh, last time I looked I wasn't running for anything either. You have no sense of humor at all do ya?  Or perhaps I'm expecting too much in the IQ department? Some day I'll get you figured out. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm telling ya you wouldn't know true, pure, socialism if it reached up and bit ya! Even real socialist countries today have changed over time and are not the same.
As far as I know, nothing I just wrote was untrue. Besides, a real politician has to know what to laugh off and ignore because of the political blogs and cartoons that come out on both sides every day. Candidates all manage to create huge piles of material for people to use for spoofs and satire...ya do know what satire is doncha?  8) Some of us use it on the forum quite often.Poke,poke.
  As far as "true" American conservative candidates....there are no real ones left. Just look at the actual voting records and you'll see. They all owe their political souls to other people one way or another, and can't be pure conservatives because of the deals they make to get elected. I would have thought you would have known that. Like I've always said, I'm a moderate Independent and I'm happy to stay there. As  far as I know Repubs aren't socialists, but I know how much you like to toss the word socialist, Marxist and communist around. You are very entertaining!
 As rude as you are, if you are an example of a real conservative... well, help us all.
Just remember, if ya wanna play, you jabbed me first .
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: redcliffsw on September 04, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
You seem to have a desire to be called something more in line with Americanism.

You've never rejected a social program that I know, yet Ross has drawn the line.

Just because you're a Republican or even support a conservative issue like the 2nd
Amendment, does not conceal your favored European doctrine.

And just what is your definition of Americanism?  The two most common definitions deal with language and ideology, i.e.

"Americanism is an ideology or belief in devotion, loyalty, or allegiance to the United States of America or to its flag, traditions, customs, culture, symbols, institutions, or form of government. A belief in Americanism is a preference for all things or most things having to do with the United States. In some cases it can be a view of superiority of the United States over other systems.

Americanism can also be a way of speaking, writing, or spelling of words in American English that may be different from British English, or other forms of the English language." (wikipedia)

The third most common deals with heresy against the Catholic Church and obedience to its authority -

"Coined in the nineteenth century, in Roman Catholic use the term Americanism referred to a group of related heresies which were defined as the endorsement of the separation of church and state. It was thought that these doctrines were held by and taught by many members of the Catholic hierarchy in the United States in the 1890s. Catholic leaders in the U.S. denied they held these views.[1]

The Americanist heresy is characterized as an insistence upon individual initiative which the Vatican judged to be incompatible with what was considered to be a fundamental principle of Catholicism: obedience to authority. Moreover, the conservatives were anti-republicans who distrusted and disliked the democratic ideas that were dominant in America.[2][unreliable source?]

Pope Leo XIII wrote against these ideas in his encyclical (Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae) to Cardinal James Gibbons. In 1898 Leo XIII lamented an America where church and state are "dissevered and divorced," and wrote of his preference for a closer relationship between the Catholic Church and the State, along European lines." (Wikipedia)


You must have a different meaning in mind since the aforementioned deal with allegience to our Country and feeling it is superior to others, and a belief in individual initiative over obedience to authority.  

This is unless Ron Paulians feel the United States is and should be inferior to other nations, and that we should all bow to authority rather than show initiative and protect individuality.


Now the quotes from Wiki do kind of describe my actual political stance, that of a center-right Moderate; pragmatic, patriotic, individualistic, etc.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: ddurbin on September 04, 2012, 04:21:01 PM
Leave it to Red to hi-jack another thread and divert it into another of his anti-socialism bashings.  Although there is nothing in this reply indicating my own personal political beliefs, I feel certain Red is very likely to come back and label me a socialist, simply because I have said something negative towards him.  He's done it before.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 04:28:13 PM
Back to the topic:


Write-In ROSS for County Commissioner

A Great Improvement For Elk County
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 04, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 04:28:13 PM
Back to the topic:


Write-In ROSS for County Commissioner

A Great Improvement For Elk County


You guys for being colege edumacted lack originality.
Must you copy this high school graduate and adulter what he has done?
I truely expect better then this.

Here is the original:
Mr. Hebb and Mr. Wunderlich


A Great Improvement For Elk County

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: Ross on September 04, 2012, 05:11:10 PM
You guys for being colege edumacted lack originality.
Must you copy this high school graduate and adulter what he has done?
I truely expect better then this.

How does it feel to have someone take a statement that you've made and turn it back upon you?

Write-In ROSS for County Commissioner

A Great Improvement For Elk County
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: ELK@KC on September 04, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
I can't think of a worse scenario than having Toss for a county commissioner. People would leave elk county in droves. Charlie durbin you stop that right now.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 04, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 05:18:18 PM
How does it feel to have someone take a statement that you've made and turn it back upon you?

Write-In ROSS for County Commissioner

A Great Improvement For Elk County

VERY CUTE !
Only what you had written was written by many others, mine was a first.
See the difference?
Originality on my part!
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 04, 2012, 06:37:58 PM
Boy, oh boy! Looks like a first for us ELK, we agree on something!

Quote from: ELK@KC on September 04, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
I can't think of a worse scenario than having Toss for a county commissioner.

I totally agree with you on this one.
Loss would be terrible. He lacks tact and diplomacy and prefers the truth.
Those just are not politician qualities in this day and age.
But I am pushing for two guys I believe can be very honest with the public.



Quote from: ELK@KC on September 04, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
People would leave elk county in droves.

This one is totally wrong, sorry to have to disagree with you, but that's life.
I bet I have greated more newcomers to Elk County in the last year of so, then you have in the last three years?
If County Commissioner I would want to start up the old friendly way of a Welcome Wagon of the good old days.
I'd check into using the Recreation Fund money for such activity instead of giving it to a privately owned company to waste.
Then the word would spread about how friendly Elk County is.
Tehy say word of mouth is the best advertisement.

Quote from: ELK@KC on September 04, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Charlie durbin you stop that right now.

Now I totally agre with you on this one.
"Charlie durbin you stop that right now."
Listen to big brother, LOL

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: Ross on September 04, 2012, 06:37:58 PM

Now I totally agre with you on this one.
"Charlie durbin you stop that right now."
Listen to big brother, LOL

I have a big brother on this Forum and it is not ELK@KC.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 07:45:44 PM
Quote from: Ross on September 04, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
VERY CUTE !
Only what you had written was written by many others, mine was a first.
See the difference?
Originality on my part!

This is where you are wrong and have been wrong all along.  The two statements I used that you hijacked were original also.  Yes, when you take each of the statements and copy them into a Yahoo, Google, or Bing search, you get a million + hits - on individual words in the statement, not on the statement as a whole.

As an example of your flawed reasoning- a Yahoo search of the statement "A great improvement for Elk County" generates 19,000 returns.  And a Google search returns 1,510,000 hits.  Yet none of the returns hit on every word in the statement as it is written.

So, according to the logic you applied to my statements, "A great improvement for Elk County" is not an original statement by you.

Which is it?  Is your statement original or not?  If you claim it is, then you have to acknowledge that mine were also.

You are being disengenuous at best on this subject.  Either that or you're just deliberately being obtuse.

Write-In ROSS for County Commissioner

A Great Improvement For Elk County
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 04, 2012, 08:22:30 PM
Quote from: flintauqua on September 04, 2012, 07:45:44 PM
This is where you are wrong and have been wrong all along.  The two statements I used that you hijacked were original also.  Yes, when you take each of the statements and copy them into a Yahoo, Google, or Bing search, you get a million + hits - on individual words in the statement, not on the statement as a whole.

A Great Improvement For Elk County
Did they scroll across the screen in big blue letters?

How's this for a change up:

A Great
            Improvement
                                For
                                       Elk County

Awaits you with
Mr. Hebb
and
                                                               
 Mr. Wunderlich

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: proelkco on September 05, 2012, 09:31:01 AM
This is an amusing new topic but it is also scary to think of gun toting Ross as representing the county.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 05, 2012, 10:23:51 AM
       So now we have an anti gun advocate joining in. I don't know any people here that don't have guns, if there are, they must talk the varmits to death.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: proelkco on September 05, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
No I am not anti-gun.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: jarhead on September 05, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
Then why the "gun toting Ross' comment? :)
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 05, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
Jarhead I think the man is just making arrogantly ignorant remarks that more reflect his personal attitude.
Perhaps a good shrink might help the poor man.
How much dribble does this guy possess?
Lets watch and see.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Ross on September 05, 2012, 01:24:16 PM
Do you know why this thread was started?
To goad me for one and it did not work. I think it's cute!
Second and more importantly a distraction from the other thread.
It worked for a short time but now it appears to be failing like everything Elk Konnected, IMHO!

So I will say goodbye and you followers can just play with yourselves, or each other, okay.

Have lots of fun!
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Oldtimer on September 05, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Quote from: Ross on September 05, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
Jarhead I think the man is just making arrogantly ignorant remarks that more reflect his personal attitude.
Perhaps a good shrink might help the poor man.
How much dribble does this guy possess?
Lets watch and see.
Ross if anyone needs a Shrink it is you. Talk about dribble, you have been dribbling all over the Forum for over a year with your enuendos, half-truths and trash about 2 people that have worked hard for Elk County.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: proelkco on September 05, 2012, 01:39:04 PM
Amen to that.  You and I will catch hell for our statements.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 05, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
 Make that three! 
   Ross...did your grasp of simple spelling fall off somewhere? I know when you are trying to be funny, but adulter? Are you an adulterer? adulterate?  Naw, I don't think so. Your tenses don't agree in several places either. Might wanna work on that too. Perhaps "alter" might fit your needs. How about "drivel' instead of dribble? Poke poke. 8) ;D
Ross, intelligent people don't get distracted from one thread or post to another. Write in Mr. Ross! Write in Mr. Ross! See? No distraction. Write in Mr.Ross.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 05, 2012, 02:54:59 PM
      If picking on someone's spelling or context is all you've got, then maybe you should go back and "fix" your own. You might not want to hitch your wagon to others just to have someone to help you run down Ross. Try standing on your own without all the "dribble" in the corner of your mouth.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: jarhead on September 05, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
That aint dribble---that is foam like from the mouth of a rabid dog. Poke Poke

Aw shit, am I in trouble now. My reference to a rabid dog directed at a lady will be used against me by the PC crowd. A female dog is known as a bitch and in no way did I mean it in that way  :angel:
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Patriot on September 06, 2012, 04:40:55 AM
Fascinating.  To sit and read comments from so called moderates.  Let's see.... looks like a play straight from the liberal playbook.... if you can't refute arguments with fact, engage in personal attack.  And if you can attack when a person is already down, so much the better.

While I doubt that Ross personally hates either of the Kommissioners referenced, that is an unrelated issue. I'm fully behind his constitutional rights to criticize government officials.  To assume we elect people and then must trust them blindly, is asinine at best.  Open criticism of government actions is a major function that makes America unique among nations.  Much more noble & acceptable than attacking private citizens, IMO.  What is it about that distinction that escapes the lib leaning thought process?  Amazing.  Perhaps most offensive is that some of the sharks here have the audacity to call themselves conservative leaning.  Not even close. 

Sadly, jarhead has hit the mark.... hypocrisy.  Touting one set of values while demonstrating an opposite set. Anything but independent thinking.  Groupthink at its best.  To say one thing and do the opposite is a lie by any definition.  Right Diane?

As for write in votes... we already have two announced.  I'm sure that's quite enough.  Trying to further muddy the waters in the hope of further splitting the vote... a shameful tactict, IMHO.

Charles... as a footnote, a truce is a delicate thing.



Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2012, 09:00:34 AM
You seem to have missed why I picked up on the write in thread. First of all, I think it's very funny. Yes, I have a warped sense of humor and secondly Ross recently ripped me a new one when I was really being sincere and it hurt. Then he even lied about what I had said so he could get all puffed up and indignant. Phooey!
  Does he get criticized for his unnecessary personal attacks? NEVER. Once in awhile I get tired of it and toss it back. If you don't like it ....tough! You never seem to pay attention to the "when.'' I'm usually playing defense and am rarely the aggressor, but you don't want to see that do ya?
  You are expecting me to tread a much higher road than anyone else. Why? I tried to do just that for a very long time. Why the double standard? I am so often put in the position of defending myself and that is hardly hypocrisy or a lie. Besides that sword cuts both ways. Apply that same statement to yourselves and get down off the high horse .You aren't exactly a good role model now are you?  I try to ignore most of the put downs and just consider the sources, but once in awhile I bite back. I have run out of cheeks...again.
  Do you ever just disagree without making it personal?  Does everything have to be on a win/lose basis?   Don't expect me to roll over and change my beliefs just because you hammer me. Take what I say out of context and use it against me if you must...that's mean, but if that's how you must play, many people here aren't surprised.  Some real politicians do it quite often.The difference is, once the election is over they shake hands and go back to work together. Or at least they used to. As far as here on the forum, it's not the questioning of Gov't....that is usually a good thing, it's the nasty, disrespectful, ugly, way it is done by some.
  I'm going to have to go all the way back and do some reading, but it seems to me that some of Ross's questions, that even had answers, were addressed.Then he fired off more questions because he thought he had them trapped by coming on the forum. I'll have to check. I might have the wrong person. Regardless, I don't blame them for not subjecting themselves to the kind of treatment I get. They may well have planned to come on here quite often, but when it turned into the cesspool of rudeness, I'd have gone a different way too!  That is just so disrespectful!
  It's been almost 15 months and the same questions are being posted. I'd have thought anyone who was really interested in answers would have tried another way when the forum connection wasn't working out. There are a few decent questions there, but the attitude sucks.  One would think someone with 8 years in Elk County would want to run for office if he has all the answers, but I guess he has his reasons. OK ,no more write in comments.
 
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Patriot on September 06, 2012, 10:13:11 AM
I swear, Diane, every time you get on your political broomstick all I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher.... "Wah wah, wah wahwahwah. Wah, wah, wah, wahwah." 

Good lordy, woman, there are something like 3086 counties & parishes in the United States.  Isn't there one in Montana or somewhere that deserves your uninformed meddling in local political affairs more than we do?  I'm sure you've got lots to offer regarding pink underwear in Maricopa County, Arizona.  If not, then I'll look forward to seeing your smiling face at the next local Elk county commission meeting collecting facts and figures as opposed to background rumors, propaganda and long distance misinformation.  Heaven knows, we've got enough resident propaganda protagonists here already.

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
 Actually I'm all about pink tents for the sheriff out in AZ. He is amazing!
   What makes you think I'm uninformed? I have lots of information sources and it's not misinformation. I hear from people who you have no idea I even know.  I have e-mail. a telephone, and face book and they all work.
  Remember, I still have family and other friends out there. Not as much family as there once was of course, but you just don't know who I'm related to. ;D   I  also have friends who are not on the forum at all ,but are very much a part of Elk County and not all from the Howard area either. 
  Some really laugh at all the politics and how some just can't get past it. ( They are all a mix of political parties.) It just really isn't important to us every day of the week. I've been able to watch both conventions and watch for the real meat and potatoes and wonder if any of them can do what they promise during their campaigns. I'll be watching Pres. O tonight to see what he has to say. Will any of you?
  Don't think I'm not informed, you'd be wrong. Some of my friends feel much as you do on some things, but are very civil and respectful of how we can agree to disagree. One friend said she couldn't understand why a few are so publicly rotten to me. She said she actually looked up to me..I don't know.. Maybe because I'm spunky and don't give up easily.?
   Patriot, I'm sorry your attention span is so short. As far as political meddling, I've asked questions, which Ross says is fine, but I've never suggested how any of you should vote on anything or anyone or in any particular way. That final say, of course, is up to you all.
I do admit to not understanding how you can get anything done without at least 5 people on your county council.I know it has to do with population, but it sure lends it's self to problems. IMHO.
I'll try not to hiss so much if some of you will please lay off.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Patriot on September 06, 2012, 12:03:50 PM

Charlie Brown:  "What did she say, Linus?"

Linus: "Wahwah wah, wah wahwahwah. Wah, wah, wah, wahwah." 

Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
 Well, I guess you won't lay off will ya? OK, just for you, I'll use easier vocabulary and fewer syllables. If you change your hearing aid battery that might help also. :P
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: proelkco on September 06, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
Mr. Patriot just because someone does not attend the county commissioners meetings does not mean they are not informed. You go to the meetings and that is your business but alot of people cannot attend. Their are other ways of staying informed. Diane has just as much right to post on here as you or myself.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Patriot on September 06, 2012, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: proelkco on September 06, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
Mr. Patriot just because someone does not attend the county commissioners meetings does not mean they are not informed.

Potentially true, based on the source(s) of information.

Quote from: proelkco on September 06, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
You go to the meetings and that is your business but alot of people cannot attend.

Yes, and in the interest of 'alot' of others, there has been an ongoing advocacy for public commission meetings to be held at a time more convenient to the... public.

Quote from: proelkco on September 06, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
Their are other ways of staying informed.

If people will do so, & I hope the gossip & rumor mills aren't considered appropriate sources of information.

Quote from: proelkco on September 06, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
Diane has just as much right to post on here as you or myself.

You're singing to the choir on that one... except it wasn't you or I who made multiple big & vocal issues about our 'never returning' to the politics thread.  My comment wasn't about Diane's rights... it was about her intellectual dishonesty & apparent lack of integrity.  But I suppose that's ok too these days.. if Obama (as President) can play the hypocrite I guess that sets the standard.  As they say, "The speed of the leader is the speed of the crew."
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Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 06, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Still at it I see. I explained! If you don't understand or refuse to accept it, that's on you! Please remember, you all made sure there are no rules. I was actually invited to join, way back when I was checking on the well being of Floyd Zimmerman. That was me then, as it still is.
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Wilma on September 06, 2012, 04:07:29 PM
Diane, I think you mean Lloyd Zimmerman, don't you?
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 07, 2012, 07:25:47 AM
      OOPS !!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Top 10 reasons to write-in Ross for County Commissioner
Post by: Diane Amberg on September 07, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
Oops is right! ;D  I don't know where that came from! Of course it's Lloyd. Sorry! :angel: