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What is amazing to me is that out of 697 forum members, that I'm the only one worried that Obuma has a good chance of being reelected. Since no one seems to care about high gas prices, high unemployment, high prices at the grocery store, dirty dealings under the table with our enemies, etc, etc, and etc... so if he is reelected, let me show you what's in store for you. Lets take taxes. You think money is tight right now... wait until next year if he is still in office. Your pocketbook will be flatter than a snakes belly. And it will get worse... a helluva lot worse because if the Chief Clown is reelected, you are TOAST people. If you are concerned about having enough money to pay your taxes (and put food on the table) next year, vote the clown out of office. He IS the worst president that America has ever had... period! Read the following article so that you will know what the hell happened to you if the Liar-In-Chief is reelected.
R.I.P. ...Warph
The following is from Grover G. Norquist's "The Tax Hike Election of 2012"... http://m.spectator.org/169477/show/c327185f62dfc3dc5fb82edc4b452f11&t=gh80c35bo7jvi8qv9ltailfla0
Obamacaretaxes:
The delayed Obamacare taxes are just one in a bevy of hikes on the horizon. Without congressional action, the 2001 and 2003 Bush-era tax cuts will expire at the end of the year, and the Alternative Minimum Tax "patch," the research and development tax credit, and the second annual FICA tax holiday will all lapse. If Obama is re-elected, he can simply veto any Republican effort to extend these tax cuts, and on January 1, 2013, the marriage penalty returns, the capital gains tax jumps from 15 to 23.8 percent, the tax on dividends rises from 15 to 43.4 percent, the top individual tax rate increases from 35 to 43.4 percent (Clinton's 39.6 percent plus the Obamacare tax of 3.8 percent), the Social Security payroll tax paid directly by workers jumps from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent, and the death tax jumps from 35 percent to 55 percent on lifetime savings greater than $1 million (not today's $10 million exemption). The end of the Alternative Minimum Tax patch means the tax, enacted in 1969 to punish 155 rich Americans, will instead hit 30 million families.
A re-elected Obama could raise taxes by $500 billion in 2013 and $5 trillion over the decade simply by vetoing Republican efforts to extend or make permanent today's lower rates.
This makes the 2012 election about taxes: big time.
Obamacare Tax Hikes:
•Individual and Employer Mandates to Purchase Health Insurance
•Medicare Payroll Tax Hike from 2.9 to 3.8 Percent
•Investment "Surtax" of 3.8 Percent
•"Cadillac Plan" Excise Tax on High-Cost Health Insurance
•Limitations on Use of Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) and Flex Spending Accounts (FSAs)
•"Medicine Cabinet Tax" on Purchase of Over-the-Counter Medicines
•"Haircut" of Medical Itemized Deductions Allowed
•New Tanning Tax of 10 Percent
•Excise Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers
•Employer Reporting of Health Insurance on Employee W-2
2013 ObamaTax Hikes:
•Tax Rates Rise from Range of 10-35 Percent Up to 15-39.6 Percent
•Capital Gains Tax Rises from 15 to 23.8 Percent
•Dividends Tax Rises from 15 to 43.4 Percent
•Tax on Majority of Small Employer Profits Rises from 35 to 43.4 Percent
•Death Tax Rate Rises from 35 to 55 Percent
•Death Tax "Standard Deduction" Falls from $10 million to $1 million
•Employee Social Security Tax Rate Rises from 4.2 to 6.2 Percent
•Households Affected by Alternative Minimum Tax Rises from 4 Million to 30 Million Households
•Research and Development Tax Credit Disappears
•Marriage Penalty Returns for All Taxpayers; Child Tax Credit Cut in Half from $1000 to $500
No WARPH, you aint the only one worried about the big eared clown getting re-elected---and I will bet you a cold beer he will get another term and I don't think the election will have anything to do with it either. I think it's already a done deal. Does it scare me ? Worse than the whole NVA 246th regiment did back when I was a pup.
Don't count me among the unconcerned. We are faced now with the 'lesser of two evils' dilemma like never before. And far too many voters still fall for Mediscare tactics and all the other tried and true BS pandering to the government dependents. They may well prefer the status quo...the devil they know. Like jarhead, my greatest concern is that the results may already be cast in stone. With the latest arrogant shots at SCOTUS, this tin horn has moved forward his dictator agenda supported by a powerful media and an uninformed electorate who make their choices based not on qualification and the rule of law but rather on good ole boy affinities and false hope.
I fully agree with Jarhead. I think it is already a done deal.
I think company's run our government, not people, not votes.
Everything else is a show, ane appeasement of the voters.
Our vote is suppose to tell the electoral college how to vote but I believe they vote how they want.
And I really dooubt that even counts.
Do I sound like I trust our government?
Warph, did you forget that I stood with you and Teresa 1000% in the last election and I will this time. Unfortunately I think the clown will be elected again and I think he will be 1000 times worse the nexr 4 years.
Frank
Quote from: frawin on April 07, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Warph, did you forget that I stood with you and Teresa 1000% in the last election and I will this time. Unfortunately I think the clown will be elected again and I think he will be 1000 times worse the nexr 4 years.
Frank
Frank I do remember and I apoligize. It does my heart good to know that there are some out there that feel the same wat I do about Obuma and his adm. goons. This man has to be stopped or IMO, America will be lost. And that is a fact. America will not be able to withstand another four years from this maniac. We have to keep a positive outlook that Romeny will prevail and win by a big margin.
Anyone else (and some of the women) want to jump in here and give their opinion, lets hear from you.
I hope people will see where we are headed if Obama stays in for another four years. I agree that things are bad now and it can only get worse if he stays in office. Rex feels if Obama gets in for another 4 years we may never get him out as he will change the laws for the lenght of term. He has the Supreme Court on his side.
Yes Warph, Rex and I feel the same way you and Frank do.
Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2012, 07:53:04 AM
I hope people will see where we are headed if Obama stays in for another four years. I agree that things are bad now and it can only get worse if he stays in office. Rex feels if Obama gets in for another 4 years we may never get him out as he will change the laws for the lenght of term. He has the Supreme Court on his side.
Yes Warph, Rex and I feel the same way you and Frank do.
Jane, i agree with Rex completely. I have said for sometime that I felt obuma would try to change it so he can remain king of America forever. You probably saw and heard his comments to Putin about how he could do more things after the election. We really need to get him out of office in november.
Quote from: frawin on April 08, 2012, 10:14:15 AM
Jane, i agree with Rex completely. I have said for sometime that I felt obuma would try to change it so he can remain king of America forever. You probably saw and heard his comments to Putin about how he could do more things after the election. We really need to get him out of office in november.
I think that is similar to what I have been saying about Elk Konnected Kounty Kommissioners and Elk Konnected School Board Members with the
"Beggar-Thy Neighbor" Programs, right? A whole lot of the same socialist type stuff, right?
No Ross it doesn't have anything to do with that junk that you are putting out about 2 of the commissioners that are working hard to do good for the people of Elk County. Why do you want to trash other people's topics with that stuff. I pay taxes in Elk County and I don't object to the good that Elk Konnect is doing.
Quote from: frawin on April 08, 2012, 11:54:59 AM
No Ross it doesn't have anything to do with that junk that you are putting out about 2 of the commissioners that are working hard to do good for the people of Elk County. Why do you want to trash other people's topics with that stuff. I pay taxes in Elk County and I don't object to the good that Elk Konnect is doing.
It ain't junk. Just read your own words, same-o, same-o.
Ain't it more about doing good for the privately owned company they are Konnected with?
Quote from: frawin on April 08, 2012, 10:14:15 AM
Jane, i agree with Rex completely. I have said for sometime that I felt obuma would try to change it so he can remain king of America forever. You probably saw and heard his comments to Putin about how he could do more things after the election. We really need to get him out of office in november.
But you, are saying you don't mind a privately owned company running our county government, right? Kings of Elk County?
You seem to recognize the truth on the national level but fail to recognize the truth on the local level.
Quote from: Jane on April 08, 2012, 07:53:04 AM
I hope people will see where we are headed if Obama stays in for another four years. I agree that things are bad now and it can only get worse if he stays in office. Rex feels if Obama gets in for another 4 years we may never get him out as he will change the laws for the lenght of term. He has the Supreme Court on his side.
Yes Warph, Rex and I feel the same way you and Frank do.
Jane, Rex has a lot of Republican in his family history. His Grandmother was the Elk County Delegate to the 1952 Republican Convention in Chicago. That was the year Ike got the nomination, how did we go from Ike in 52 to an Obama in 2008. It would be interesting to have Kathryns take on what is happening in America today.
Quote from: frawin on April 07, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Warph, did you forget that I stood with you and Teresa 1000% in the last election and I will this time. Unfortunately I think the clown will be elected again and I think he will be 1000 times worse the nexr 4 years.
Frank
Frank, most of us were standing united against the Obamination being elected...A fact that has been conveniently forgotten by those who seek to divide us, one against the other. And yes...I agree...Just as when Clinton was re-elected, despite his vast shortcomings and moral deficiencies, the people of this US will once again send this idiot back into office for another four years. And yes. This nation will suffer for it. I fear for the future of this nation when that occurs.
Cat, I agree with what you say. I have belonged to the Republican party all of my adult life and the past few years I have donated to it regularly. They have been calling me for a donation and I last week I told them that if the 4 Republican candidates we had running were the best we had I was not going to donate any money to them. John McCain and Sarah Palin were poor choices for candidates and we ended up with Obama. McCain is a good man and he sacrificed alot for his country but he had no business debating Obama, and Palin didn't even know where Washington was. In my opinion Newt is the only candidate that can debate Obama and Newt will not get the Nomination. I worry about the future for my Children and grandchildren.
You don't think Mitt can beat the President?
We also have donated to Mitt Romney. Yes, Grandma Katie was one hell of a Republican. Believed totally in the party and so do we. It is the working class party. We were both raised Republican and will die Republican. We just hope it is not too late to save the country from this mad man's destruction.
Quote from: Ross on April 08, 2012, 12:04:38 PM
You seem to recognize the truth on the national level but fail to recognize the truth on the local level.
Ross, you're doing just fine. When you stand against liberalism, you're standing against Obama and the Republicans.
I like your "junk" so keep up the good work and stay on 'em.
Now for some rambling....
There are no truths for giving away the government money whether it's Federal or local.
The foundation of the Republican party is to get the government money to its people/corporations/gov't
agencies/schools and it still is. There's nothing conservative about that.
Once I met an elderly black man who was a delegate for Ike to the Republican convention in 1952 from SC.
He owned a real estate firm. That was in 2000 and he had switched to the Democrats before then. I didn't
see it as a big change in his life except that the Democrats simply move a little faster than the Republicans
when it comes to spending money and promoting more government. That's why the Democrats call the
Republicans "conservative" and the Democrats are wrong about that too.
Obama is a big problem, yet so are most other politicians. Elk County is no different as the liberals are strong
there. You all ought to be thankful there's a few men in Elk County who will tell it like it is. Sadly almost
every county in Kansas needs men who are truly conservative because Republicanism and the Democrats are
promoting the socialist agendas and they're not going to let up.
Whether it's Obama, Romney or Elk Konnected, folks ought to stand against 'em.
So as far as you are concerned, who isn't the enemy? ???
Quote from: Diane Amberg on April 08, 2012, 05:32:08 PM
So as far as you are concerned, who isn't the enemy? ???
Damn Diane, this is twice in one week we agree on something.
Red, at one time I said I agreed with a lot of what you said. It seems as though we have now hit a fork in the trail some time ago. For you to keep beating a dead horse about how all Republicans in Elk county are Liberal is absolute bullshit. I don't know you or where you live, but if I was a bet'n man I would say you do not live in Elk county because I don't think you know horse shit from apple butter when it comes to how most Republicans in Elk county feel about issues.
For the record---I think Ross is doing a fine job too.
Operation: Hot Mike
Mission: Simple Your mission is simple.... DUMP Obuma 2012Our economy is now in the grip of European-style unemployment. Our national debt still spirals out of control, fueled by Washington's expense-account mentality. Our power and standing in the world are now openly challenged. We are on the brink of leaving the next generation of Americans a far less secure, strong and prosperous country than we ourselves have enjoyed.
Instead of confronting these challenges with realistic solutions, President Obama and his allies in Congress stubbornly cling to the same destructive policies that drove us into this economic and fiscal morass: Backbreaking tax increases. Job-destroying regulatory harassment. And gross fiscal incompetence.
In 2012, America will choose between President Obama's politics of permanent decline and a new era of strength, security and growth. Barack Obama obstinately blames everyone but himself for the 14 million Americans who can't find work, the most anemic economy since the 1970s and the largest run-up in federal government debt in America's entire history.
Now, Americans are joining together to say that Barack Obama's blame game is over. It's time for accountability and results. It's time we had a president as great and big-hearted as America itself. And it's time we had majorities in both the House and the Senate that are 100% dedicated to rescuing our economy from the Obama agenda, restoring health to our financial balance sheet and making America the strong, vigilant world leader we once were and must always be.
Don't leave your kids a country that is less strong, secure and proud than the one you and I inherited.
It is of special interest to read the words of Marcus Tullius Cicero regarding the danger of internal subversion. In a speech to the Roman Senate, as recorded by *Sallust, Cicero said:
"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor (Barack Hussein Obuma) moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor (Obuma) appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor (Obuma) is the plague."
*Gaius Sallustius Crispus, usually anglicised as Sallust (86 BC – c. 35 BC) was a Roman historian, politician, and novus homo from a well-known plebeian family.
Quote from: jarhead on April 08, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
Damn Diane, this is twice in one week we agree on something.
Red, at one time I said I agreed with a lot of what you said. It seems as though we have now hit a fork in the trail some time ago. For you to keep beating a dead horse about how all Republicans in Elk county are Liberal is absolute bullshit. I don't know you or where you live, but if I was a bet'n man I would say you do not live in Elk county because I don't think you know horse shit from apple butter when it comes to how most Republicans in Elk county feel about issues.
For the record---I think Ross is doing a fine job too.
Jar- you seem to be one of the few real conservatives even if you're under the Republican umbrella. Perhaps I'm a bit extreme about
labeling "all" Republicans as liberals, however you've got to admit there's some Republican liberals right here on the forum who do not hide their support of Elk Konnected. Elk Konnected draws lots of the liberal support and a few other folks who later regret any support.
Meanwhile, when I'm in Elk County, I'll look for the conservatives that you say are there. Might even see you.