http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/8526-ron-paul
The only time the news media, fox included, ever mentions Ron Paul is in a negative manner. The powers that be do not want him to get elected.
I though the general feeling by the "masses" is to get rid of anyone who has been there for years, no matter how they think or vote. That broom sweep will cost some good people their jobs too.
Ron Paul has been opposing them for years including your own liberal and progressive Biden.
Here's some positive news for Ron Paul on a poll in Iowa:
http://www.kcautv.com/story/15255706/ron-paul-wins-online-straw-poll
Quote from: redcliffsw on August 12, 2011, 01:57:34 PM
Ron Paul has been opposing them for years including your own liberal and progressive Biden.
Here's some positive news for Ron Paul on a poll in Iowa:
http://www.kcautv.com/story/15255706/ron-paul-wins-online-straw-poll
I'm not surprised. The libertarian governmental perspective is really hard for some folks to grasp. Even for some who call themselves conservative, and most who like to say they're progressive. But when most are pinned down privately about their expectations of government their views fit closely with the libertarian model. Perhaps that's because the libertarian view emphasizes personal liberty and minimizes government intrusion into private affairs.
The media always tries to paint candidates like Ron Paul as on the fringe, despite the fact that he's extremely popular. Frankly, I think its because he's the only candidate thats a threat to really change the whole system and bring down the large corporations that have taken over our government. Those same corporations own the media, so you do the math.
Look who runs the government schools. It's the government. Most have never rejected the
indoctrination they've received and so Ron Paul is not someone they can relate to.
I would love to see him get elected as President.
I watched the debates on Fox last night. I did not connect with Mr. Paul. I cannot go "all in" with Libertarian Party. I get the heebie geebies when most Rebublicans open their mouths to talk. Now what?
Lisa
Quote from: farmgal67357 on August 12, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
I watched the debates on Fox last night. I did not connect with Mr. Paul. I cannot go "all in" with Libertarian Party. I get the heebie geebies when most Rebublicans open their mouths to talk. Now what?
Lisa
There are a few other possible contenders yet to show... Ryan, Perry, etc.
Of course, you could always hold your nose and vote for the incumbent. :P
Or do a write in: A Jarhead/Sarge ticket comes to mind.
Quote from: Patriot on August 12, 2011, 03:36:59 PM
There are a few other possible contenders yet to show... Ryan, Perry, etc.
Of course, you could always hold your nose and vote for the incumbent. :P
Or do a write in: A Jarhead/Sarge ticket comes to mind.
Perry, Ryan, long term politicians are a "pick the best of the worst" for me. Obama-HELL NO!
Your write in suggestion is sounding really good to me...... :)
Lisa
I DO like Herman Cain, but that's just me...
Quote from: farmgal67357 on August 12, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
I watched the debates on Fox last night. I did not connect with Mr. Paul. I cannot go "all in" with Libertarian Party. I get the heebie geebies when most Rebublicans open their mouths to talk. Now what?
Lisa
Guess you're SOL then ---unless you want to vote for the "moderate/ centrist" Prez that's occupying space at the WH right now --No wait---I think he's on another vacation right at the moment !! You might try listening to a Republican
because those Republicans are a bunch of poop heads :D
Quote from Patriot:
Or do a write in: A Jarhead/Sarge ticket comes to mind.
There aint no way. About the first time I needed ol Sarge to go knock some sense into some senators heads where would he be ? Most likely he would be sitting on the bank of the Potomac , carp fishing. That or out in the cherry orchard squirrel hunting
I think that would be a good ticket. Jarhead just think about using Air force One to fly to great treasure hunting sites. ::)
No way DeeGee, that I would fly with a Fly-Boy at the steering wheel of the plane. No, I think I would be doing all my travels as dictator in the Marine One.First thing I would do is appoint Larry as the Surgeon General. Next would be make Teresa Ambassador to Antarctica !!
Herman Cain is an idiot. I wouldn't vote for anyone who doesnt have a basic grasp of the constitution.
Quote from: jarhead on August 12, 2011, 05:42:38 PM
Quote from farmgal
I cannot go "all in" with Libertarian Party. I get the heebie geebies when most Rebublicans open their mouths to talk. Now what?
Guess you're SOL then ---unless you want to vote for the "moderate/ centrist" Prez that's occupying space at the WH right now --No wait---I think he's on another vacation right at the moment !! You might try listening to a Republican
because those Rebublicans are a bunch of poop heads :D
Actually, I used to be a Republican. And they are the party that comes closest to my own beliefs. But most of them have gone the way of corruption, just like the Dems. Yep, both parties have poop heads! :laugh:
Lisa
My vote will be for Rick Perry..
2nd ...Ron Paul
3rd... Herman Cain
4th...Newt Gingrich
Toss up between Newt and Herman
You chose already? Perry is an interesting candidate, but with the caucus system he would have a long way to go. It's really complicated because neither party seems to stand on the same planks they used to. Then throw the tea party in, there whose influence seems to change every day, and it's hard to know what to think from one blog and TV report to another.
Quote from: Teresa on August 13, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
My vote will be for Rick Perry..
2nd ...Ron Paul
3rd... Herman Cain
4th...Newt Gingrich
Toss up between Newt and Herman
Teresa, I agree completely with you on this, I seem to remember we were for the same candidates last time. It will be interesting to see where the Obama supporters stand in the next election. Rick Perry is a good man, he has served Texas longer than any other Governor, Myrna and I have voted for him twice as Governor. Contrary to Obama, Perry is a Christian, Conservative, job creator, practices fiscal restraint, was born in America, and much more.
I feel sorry for whomever wants to win next time. They better be ready to produce their family Bible back to 1740, their sterling report cards back to Kindergarten ,employment records back to their first kid job, a criminal back ground check back to when they were still in diapers, a list of their older relatives and in laws that may have no blemish back to 1492.
Then there must be a list of brothers and sisters who must also have also always been perfect and an accurate list of personal friends ,acquaintances, other friends' birthday party guests, casual seatmates at the movies for the last 30 years, who shared a restaurant at the same time, what kind of food they ate and every book they ever read, movie or show they ever watched and be able to defend their having done so. Someone will be out there professionally with the insults and innuendo to use it against them.
Yeah, Perry looks better than Obama for sure. However, we need better choices than those two.
Perry is Republican and he's most probably a Keynesian too. As far as I can see, he's no conservative.
Quote from: Anmar on August 12, 2011, 10:43:04 PM
Herman Cain is an idiot. I wouldn't vote for anyone who doesnt have a basic grasp of the constitution.
That doesn't make the man an idiot, just uninformed. People can learn, and I bet most of the other candidates are in the same boat as Herman. Except for Ron Paul, and even though he could probably recite the Constitution in his sleep, he's not conservative enough for me.
Lisa
Quote from: redcliffsw on August 13, 2011, 04:54:34 PM
Yeah, Perry looks better than Obama for sure. However, we need better choices than those two.
Perry is Republican and he's most probably a Keynesian too. As far as I can see, he's no conservative.
Perry and Romney are experts at working the political "machine". I'm not sure I like that, on the other hand, that's probably what you need to get elected.
Lisa
Perry is a Bush creation. Perry has done nothing in Texas which required conservative principles and leadership. He is a western version of the blue bloods in Manhattan.
-Mark Vogl
http://www.nolanchart.com/article8723_Perry_is_a_blue_state_governor_in_a_Red_State.html
I was a Republican (at the time) who couldn't vote for 'ol dubya. I couldn't get past that silver spoon hanging out of his mouth. How was he gonna relate to me? I am so fed up with politics as usual. :P
Lisa
I can't figure out what's going on and don't trust what any of them say any more. So much is campaign rhetoric that means nothing after the election anyway. The down right lies that are told every day should blister their tongues, but their rules seem to allow it. How is the voter supposed to know who and what to discount. What is really truthful, or just wishful and can't be accomplished in any case.
Ron Paul just scored me 192 points for a 92 point investment in shares on Intrade because he lost to Bachmann in the Iowa straw poll. Liked him in last Presidential race now I like him even more for stimulating my economy. It is way too early to commit to who I will vote for as the Republican nominee, but Ron Paul has my carry over from the last Republican Presidential Primary, and the fact he made me 100 points on Intrade.
David
I think its funny that all these people are now jumping on the Paul bandwagon only 2 years after writing him off as a wacho because of his views on 9/11, the war on terror, and the wars around the world. You all supported Bush and the neocons in their war-mongering, and Paul spoke out. Now that you're all backing Ron Paul, are you admitting that he was right all along and you were wrong?
Quote from: Anmar on August 15, 2011, 12:41:26 AM
I think its funny that all these people are now jumping on the Paul bandwagon only 2 years after writing him off as a wacho because of his views on 9/11, the war on terror, and the wars around the world. You all supported Bush and the neocons in their war-mongering, and Paul spoke out. Now that you're all backing Ron Paul, are you admitting that he was right all along and you were wrong?
Anmar, don't underestimate the carry over Ron Paul has from the last Presidential Race. I know Democrats, Independents, and Republicans, that Ron Paul's message resonates with their political beliefs. They just got derailed when it turned out to be McCain vs. Obama. Rommney is too Morman\Democratic, Rick Perry is too Evangelical\and Texan after Bush to be elected President. My opinion may change but right now I am sticking with Ron Paul for my vote. If Warph and Slappy decide to run, which I doubt, despite my efforts to entice them, I will drop Ron Paul in a second. :D
David
Quote from: Anmar on August 15, 2011, 12:41:26 AM
I think its funny that all these people are now jumping on the Paul bandwagon only 2 years after writing him off as a wacho because of his views on 9/11, the war on terror, and the wars around the world. You all supported Bush and the neocons in their war-mongering, and Paul spoke out. Now that you're all backing Ron Paul, are you admitting that he was right all along and you were wrong?
Ha I liked Ron Paul the first time I heard him talk......sounded like a guy with common sense....a scarce commodity more precious than platinum in the political arena. Voted for him every chance I got. I dont agree with 100% of his thoughts but closer than anybody else and as I said....he seems to have common sense.
Kinda sounds like he will get my vote again judging from the rest of the idiots in the race so far...including Obama and the rest of the republican pack. I would not vote for ANY of them.
Not that any one gives a didly squat, and I like a lot of what Paul says----BUT---unless he does a flip flop on what he has said in the past about Israel he will never get my vote. Sorry Sarge. Go Newt, go !!!
I like a Perry/Bachman Ticket.
Quote from: jarhead on August 15, 2011, 08:02:02 AM
Not that any one gives a didly squat, and I like a lot of what Paul says----BUT---unless he does a flip flop on what he has said in the past about Israel he will never get my vote. Sorry Sarge. Go Newt, go !!!
Ron, I am surprised you would be for Newt, he has really made a lot of mistakes in this campaign. I think Newt is finished.
Quote from: frawin on August 15, 2011, 08:09:48 AM
Ron, I am surprised you would be for Newt, he has really made a lot of mistakes in this campaign. I think Newt is finished.
I like a Perry/Bachman Ticket.
yea Frankie, you only like the Perry/ Bachman ticket because of Bachman. If it was Palin/Bachman you would be panting like an ol coon hound. Throw in that witch from Delaware and you would be barking treed ( now before kshillbilly jumps all over that "witch from Delaware" I'm talking that O'Donnel lady ) (sorry Diane to drag you into this one but I couldn't let this one pass and I sincerely mean it as a joke )
Now where was I ? Oh yea Newt---yea Newt has made a lot of mistakes in his campaign (and life) but besides Paul I think he is the only one that has ever even read the constitution plus Newt is a historian and I think it's important-----------And I think Newt would turn the deserts of Iran into one big giant sheet of glass---whew---had to google the Sahara DESERT---almost wrote the DESSERTS of Iran !!!
Just in advance...this is MY opinion ;) I think voting for any of the career senators etc. that are runnin is just P*&&in in the wind as far as fixin whats wrong......and Newt is part of what went wrong as is Romney, Bachman, and the others. We need NEW blood....both as president AND in as many seats in congress as is humanly possible.
That's OK Jar, I got it. Besides I'm just "White Trash" from now on. Going back to just reading this to get your opinions. It's much too early for me.
Give it a rest Diane.. Leave it for the other thread ...................
Hey! I'm done with the other thread too. Jar brought it up, I didn't. :'(
So much for trying to lighten things up. Sorry Teresa, it won't happen again----------------------until I get the urge again. ;)
Jar, I know you meant it as a joke. I was making a funny comment reacting to your witch comment...white witch .white trash? Leaving. I just wanted to see your opinions. Sheesh.
Quote from: thatsMRSc2u on August 15, 2011, 10:07:43 AM
Just in advance...this is MY opinion ;) I think voting for any of the career senators etc. that are runnin is just P*&&in in the wind as far as fixin whats wrong......and Newt is part of what went wrong as is Romney, Bachman, and the others. We need NEW blood....both as president AND in as many seats in congress as is humanly possible.
You and I are in complete agreement!
Lisa
Jon Stewart ( Daily Show) had a great take on the media treatment of Mr Paul . If you didn't see it , worth watching.