In the Independence Daily Reporter an article about Elk County Sheriff's Office destroying 4,000 marijuana plants made the front page. Good job, sheriff's office. This agency worked from 3:00 a.m. Wednesday until 4 p.m. eradicating these plants that were obviously cultivated and were being tended by someone.
What I find very nice is that we got some news covereage. Maybe, just maybe this will detour someone else from planting anything in our county.
Here's the article word-for-word for those of you who do not get the paper.
MARIJUANA PLANTS DESTROYED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN ELK CO. By Allen Smith, Staff Writer, published on Thursday, July 28, 2011, in the Independence Daily Reporter.
Nearly a dozen law enforcement agencies convered on a field about a quarter of a mile west of K-99 in Elk County and set fire to just under 4,000 marijuana plants that were growing there.
Elk County Sheriff Doug Hanks said late Wednesday afternoon his department had received a tip sometime last year abut the plants growing in the field on Turkey Road in Elk County and officers of several agencies have been keeping an eye of the field.
"We have not been lucky enough to catch anyone in the field, but the marijuana has been harvested recently," Hanks said.
In addition to the plants Hanks said some drying tables, some furniture and some "pretty crude shelter" was found at the scene today.
"We took it all out, he said. "We had a big fire burning and got rid of all that marijuana.
"The bad part is we weren't able to make any arrests and we don't know who the stuff belonged to," Hanks said.
He said the extrication of the plants began about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday and concluded around 4 p.m.
Hanks said he did not know how much the marijuana would have been worth on the street.
Besides the Elk County Sheriff's Department, other agencies involved in the bust on Wednesday included: the Kansas Bureau of Investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency, ICE, Kansas Wildlife and Parks, Greenwood, Cowley and Chautauqua County Sheriff's Departments, Neodesha Police Department, the Kansas National Guard and the Kansas Highway Patrol provided helicopters for the effort.
In addition, Hanks said he had Eagle Med out of Wichita at the scene, along with the Elk County Emergency Medical Service personnel, the Elk County Rural Fire Department and the Elk County Road and Bridge Department provided a truck and front end loader.
Hanks encouraged Elk County residents to be on the lookout for suspicious activity that could be drug related and call his department at (620) 374-2108.
Teresa, remove this post as I saw where it was being discussed on the "Look what the wind blew in..." and I copied and pasted it over there. Thanks.
ROTFL oooook. Its a drop in the bucket. What a waste of time too. Why aren't they going after the real money making meth manufactureres. Shrug...... Oh well.
How about doing both? That's their job too. Illegal is illegal. Oh, Steve was that yours? Sorry! ;) Poke,poke.
Quote from: Janet Harrington on July 28, 2011, 03:13:00 PM
Elk County Sheriff Doug Hanks said late Wednesday afternoon his department had received a tip sometime last year abut the plants growing in the field on Turkey Road in Elk County and officers of several agencies have been keeping an eye of the field.
"We have not been lucky enough to catch anyone in the field, but the marijuana has been harvested recently," Hanks said.
I'm glad, I'm truly glad, that they found and destroyed the plants. I just don't follow the thread very well
. . . we've been keeping an eye on it . . . we've not been lucky enough to catch anyone . . . has been harvest recently.How good of an "eye" did they have - watching it for months, not catching anyone. Letting it be harvested, not catching anyone?
I wondered about that, too, Mom. "It has been harvested recently."? Doesn't seem as if there would be much left to destroy and as dry as it is, there wouldn't be much re-growth.
For you all who are not familiar with the territory, it is heavily wooded with hedge and cedar. There is no place for a surveillance vehicle to hide and anything parked in the area would be suspect. Turkey Rd. ends at Highway 99. The portion that goes west goes up a hill and any traffic going west is soon out of sight. About a quarter mile from the highway there is a culvert that drains the field from the other side of the road and joins the drainage from said land. It all then runs down and under the highway. I don't know where the entrance to the land might be as we never go that way. There is an entrance from the highway, but it never looks as if it is being used. Am I right, Frank?
I have been looking at the landowner's map and am surprised at how much of the land is still in the family that it belonged to years ago. Not many of them are still living there, though.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 28, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
How about doing both? That's their job too. Illegal is illegal. Oh, Steve was that yours? Sorry! ;) Poke,poke.
Wasn't mine..:D
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 28, 2011, 05:35:57 PM
How about doing both? That's their job too. Illegal is illegal. Oh, Steve was that yours? Sorry! ;) Poke,poke.
They need to leave them alone. Go after some real criminals!
Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 28, 2011, 06:19:31 PM
I'm glad, I'm truly glad, that they found and destroyed the plants. I just don't follow the thread very well . . . we've been keeping an eye on it . . . we've not been lucky enough to catch anyone . . . has been harvest recently.
How good of an "eye" did they have - watching it for months, not catching anyone. Letting it be harvested, not catching anyone?
i just caught this, what good is it to destroy it now? They've already harvested it. Sheesh. talk about being late! Once they harvest its over, no wonder they didn't catch anyone.
Here is what I think the story meant.
I think the sheriff probably meant they got the tip last week. There is no way they were watching it since last year. Come on people. Marijuana would not live through the winter. It had to have been last week that the tip came in or maybe a month ago.
I believe that when he said it had been harvested, I am sure he meant or said, some of it had been harvested. The growers were probably starting to harvest and when that happens then it is time to go in and get the rest of it.
Our sheriff's office does not have the means or the time to do surveillance. There is not always enough KBI agents to go around to do all the drug stuff in the state. Sometimes law enforcement has to investigate then go in and take it. It just works that way.
Years ago we found a few cultivated plants along a creek. We found a pair of reading glasses that looked like they had just been dropped and fresh tracks. We hunted for awhile, but never did find anyone. We pulled the plants. Oh yeah, I think we also found a pump and hose going to the plants. It's just hard to always have the time and the money to do the surveillance that is needed to arrest someone.
This land has been in the Ritter family for as long as I can remember. The last I knew one of the Hebbs had cattle on it, but that was a long time ago. Don't know who leases it or if anyone does. I'm sure the sheriff and the KBI will continue to see if they can ever figure out who was growing this field. It would be nice if they could, but sometimes you just can't.
Well, yeah, Janet. That has been a long time.
how was it found, by complete accident?
I read somewhere that the sheriff had received a tip.
They might have, but heard also that people are watering their crops and everything else is so dry and dying. So they used copters and could spot it. That is what I heard. I know nothing else, but that does make sense! LOL
There are not enough Elk County Sheriff deputys to watch the field for a week or a month, but hunters use trail cams all the time to watch their game. Maybe there should be a fund drive to purchase several for our sheriff .
Set it up Doug and I will donate the first $200.00 .
LOL, can't believe the waste of money going after something that grows wild. Sheesh.
You've got a good point.
Can't help but think that the Fed's programs and moneys stimulate much of the wild business.
Quote from: redcliffsw on July 29, 2011, 08:16:43 AM
You've got a good point.
Can't help but think that the Fed's programs and moneys stimulate much of the wild business.
BTW Just so folks know, You don't harvest pot in july. Pot is harvested before the first frost.
Quote from: Wilma on July 28, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
I wondered about that, too, Mom. "It has been harvested recently."? Doesn't seem as if there would be much left to destroy and as dry as it is, there wouldn't be much re-growth.
For you all who are not familiar with the territory, it is heavily wooded with hedge and cedar. There is no place for a surveillance vehicle to hide and anything parked in the area would be suspect. Turkey Rd. ends at Highway 99. The portion that goes west goes up a hill and any traffic going west is soon out of sight. About a quarter mile from the highway there is a culvert that drains the field from the other side of the road and joins the drainage from said land. It all then runs down and under the highway. I don't know where the entrance to the land might be as we never go that way. There is an entrance from the highway, but it never looks as if it is being used. Am I right, Frank?
I have been looking at the landowner's map and am surprised at how much of the land is still in the family that it belonged to years ago. Not many of them are still living there, though.
Wilma, I agree with you, as usual you are very observant. I am not sure but their maybe a Barb Wire gate off of Turkey into the pasture. Everytime we go by the place I always comment about how bad it has been allowed to growup in trees, brush and undergrowth.
Frank
Sounds kinda like a lot of places in Eastern KS with the hedge and weeds taking over.
It looks like the Sericea Lespedeza is spreading out more and more. No market for that.
Quote from: redcliffsw on July 29, 2011, 08:38:31 AM
Sounds kinda like a lot of places in Eastern KS with the hedge and weeds taking over.
It looks like the Sericea Lespedeza is spreading out more and more. No market for that.
bale it up and bring it over here. I'llt akeit feed my goats with
Will goats eat the sericea lespedeza? I thought that was a variety that nothing would eat...?
Quote from: Catwoman on July 29, 2011, 09:14:11 AM
Will goats eat the sericea lespedeza? I thought that was a variety that nothing would eat...?
I don't know, not much my goats wont eat. They won't eat these damn cucleburrs. OR the ragweed.
Hmmmm.....Steve knows a little too much about that certain crop. ;D It might make for some happy goats and interesting tasting milk. Is your wild stuff really sinsemilla type cannabis or is it hemp...satvia? North eastern Kansas has both that grows wild, especially near the railroad tracks.Your harvesters are probably "early" because of the lack of rain, or there many be another reason. Maybe the buds developed early this year.The police planes look for the fields here in July as well as later. The taller it is the easier it is to spot from the air and have accurate recognition.
Sounds like a professional garden put in by a drug cartel. Now that the garden was raided keep an eye for the following animals they are a tip off that a garden is near.
Omg..........hell just froze over.........I agree with Steve on somethin :P
Yes pot is illegal but I dont think it should be......there are uses beyond gettin stoned and eatin cheetos all day.
think those tax-dollars would be MUCH better spent on shuttin down meth. I hate that drug with a passion.
to early for it to have beenharvested yey more like late sept. or oct. as for stuff that grows wild wouldnt get afly high ,my money on who grew it is some one from severy with past any guesses Janet I think he is out of jail
Quote from: Catwoman on July 29, 2011, 09:14:11 AM
Will goats eat the sericea lespedeza? I thought that was a variety that nothing would eat...?
Actually, it's a natural wormer for goats. But not their first browse choice.... that would be leafy spurge. The lespedeza runs a close second. Next in line is canada thistle, of all things.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 29, 2011, 09:37:20 AM
Hmmmm.....Steve knows a little too much about that certain crop. ;D It might make for some happy goats and interesting tasting milk. Is your wild stuff really sinsemilla type cannabis or is it hemp...satvia?
I think the wild stuff is satvia, though it could be a mix of satvia and indicus. I've used it for meds before, make it into a tincture for pain control. You see, when you've lived with pain and the way the damn laws are written the doctors cut you off any pain meds and screw you over. once that happens You do what you have to do to cope with pain. As far as i found, a tincture of cannibus will take care of most back pain. ON the sensemilla its not a type. :D sensemilla is female plant. No seed to deal with or very little seed to deal with. Have had a female plant self pollinate before.
QuoteNorth eastern Kansas has both that grows wild, especially near the railroad tracks.Your harvesters are probably "early" because of the lack of rain, or there many be another reason. Maybe the buds developed early this year.The police planes look for the fields here in July as well as later. The taller it is the easier it is to spot from the air and have accurate recognition.
Harvesting now is a waste of time all you get is leaves. And IF i were growing right now, there wouldn't even be that. You strip the leaves in order to keep the choppers and planes from spotting it since the bud alone looks like thistle and has a thermal image of thistle.
I've never heard of any grower growing it in the ground. Maybe its different here than elsewhere. Most grow them in 5 gallon buckets, cause you can move them around. Shrug
I Sure wish i could grow the satvia though. one hell of a cash crop on the market. Hemp oil and clothing and 25 other products from that plant! Makes for a hell of a good cash crop! Better than corn or any other crops. THe hemp oil is awesome for cosmetics as well as suppliments. It is one of those oils that boost heart and immune system functions.
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 10:10:24 AM
Sounds like a professional garden put in by a drug cartel. Now that the garden was raided keep an eye for the following animals they are a tip off that a garden is near.
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Come off it. Thats a load of crap. don't go starting a damn panic on that breed of dog. We have enough problems with idiots thinking that pits are bad dogs. Don't go labling this breed as a bad breed. They are a wonderful cattle dog!
The last i checked, tigers are not that common around any part outside of a zoo and gators don't live here....Sheesh
Quote from: thatsMRSc2u on July 29, 2011, 10:25:21 AM
Omg..........hell just froze over.........I agree with Steve on somethin :P
Yes pot is illegal but I dont think it should be......there are uses beyond gettin stoned and eatin cheetos all day.
think those tax-dollars would be MUCH better spent on shuttin down meth. I hate that drug with a passion.
Hell hasn't froze over, otherwise my electric bill wouldn't be so high but yeah i do agree. I don't care who knows it but i will use it for my pain control at any time i want. Damn the law. The law doesn't have to live with what i live with!
Quote from: thatsMRSc2u on July 29, 2011, 10:25:21 AM
Omg..........hell just froze over.........I agree with Steve on somethin :P
Yes pot is illegal but I dont think it should be......there are uses beyond gettin stoned and eatin cheetos all day.
think those tax-dollars would be MUCH better spent on shuttin down meth. I hate that drug with a passion.
BTW i wouldn't turn in a meth lab either. I would blow it up.
Quote from: Patriot on July 29, 2011, 12:16:23 PM
Actually, it's a natural wormer for goats. But not their first browse choice.... that would be leafy spurge. The lespedeza runs a close second. Next in line is canada thistle, of all things.
Oh shoot yeah, the first thing to go out of my pasture was that thistle. I had all kinds of thistle in my pature when i first got here. Now there isn't a single plant. They killed it off.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 12:35:38 PM
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Come off it. Thats a load of crap. don't go starting a damn panic on that breed of dog. We have enough problems with idiots thinking that pits are bad dogs. Don't go labling this breed as a bad breed. They are a wonderful cattle dog!
The last i checked, tigers are not that common around any part outside of a zoo and gators don't live here....Sheesh
Steve the stories of those animals being used to guard pot farms are easy to find. Secondly, it is partly tongue in cheek. Thirdly, KIB\DEA reported they supspect a drug cartel due to the nature of the farm. Very similar to others they have found. Presa Canario's are not used as cattle dogs, but as a guard dog for people and cattle. (Never labeled the breed as bad, just the drug dealers that train and use them). Just waking people up as to what is to come your way if you don't stop these drug cartels from infiltrating EK.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 12:43:56 PM
Steve the stories of those animals being used to guard pot farms are easy to find. Secondly, it is partly tongue in cheek. Thirdly, KIB\DEA reported they supspect a drug cartel due to the nature of the farm. Very similar to others they have found. Presa Canario's are not used as cattle dogs. (Never labeled the breed as bad, just the drug dealers that train and use them). Just waking people up as to what is to come your way if you don't stop these drug cartels from infiltrating EK.
David
They use any dog they can get, the presa canarios were bred for cattle dogs, hog dogs, dogs that can handle large breed animals. Same thing for pits. Pits were originally bred for cattle dogs specifically to handle the bulls. They don't do so well with hogs though. The cathoula cur dogs are hog dogs. They are exceptionally well suited to handle a hog as well as bulls and cattle. So are the presa's. Just because the dealers use not only presas, they use pits, shepards, dobermans, and any large breed dog to guard. Usually not the crops. Usually they use them to guard their warehouse. Look for booby traps, tripwire explosives, tripwire shotguns and all manner of surveillance. They use wireless cams to send video to their location in order to keep from getting caught. 9 timesout of 10 the reason you don't get them is cause they see ya coming long before you get there.
Meth labs are the number one users of these things! Pot growers ehhh they don't bother with it. Its too easy to see the LEOs monitoring the fields. Only those who are idiots get caught growing it cause their greedy and they try to cash in once their stash has been discovered. The smart ones have a sacrificial plot to keep the LEO's attention.
As I said above. Presa's were not used as cattle dogs. Just livestock guarding and people guarding. If you have any proof I would be happy to read it. As I said all of those animals have been used in California pot farms more times than just a single event. The point of my post is you have professional drug cartels in Elk County. Take note it only gets worse from here.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 12:59:07 PM
As I said above. Presa's were not used as cattle dogs. Just livestock guarding and people guarding. If you have any proof I would be happy to read it. As I said all of those animals have been used in California pot farms more times than just a single event. The point of my post is you have professional drug cartels in Elk County. Take note it only gets worse from here.
David
First introduced to the world outside of Spain's Canary Islands by the American Anthropologist Dr. Carl Semencic in an article for Dogworld Magazine and in his books on the subject of rare breeds of dogs, the Presa Canario or "Canary Dog" is a large sized dog with a thick and muscular body.[1] The head is broad, massive, square, and powerful. Proper head and good expression are part of the breed standard, and are manifest in the best breed specimens. The ears are normally cropped, both to create a more formidable expression and to prevent damage while working with cattle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_de_Presa_Canario
Presa Canario
History
The ancestors of the Presa Canario, or
canary dog were probably brought to the Canary
Islands by the Spanish Conquistidors, and coexisted
with indigenous cattle dogs from the beginning of
the fifteenth century. These dogs served many
purposes. They guarded the farms, helped catch
and hold cattle, and exterminated wild or stray dogs.
In the 1940s, the breed began to decline in
numbers. In was revived again in the 1970s, when
reputable breeders developed and bred Presa
Canario true to their original size and character.
Presa Canario dogs have experienced ups and
downs in the course of history. These dogs are now
gaining popularity with the quality of the breeding
stock being constantly improved.
The breed originated in the Canary Islands, which
got the name after the dog, not a famous bird. In
fact, the word "cane" gave rise to the island name.
The island was referred to as "The Island of Dogs."
The Presa Canario dog originated from the strong
smooth - coated found on farms and used as working
dogs.
They were called Majero and are believed to
resemble the Perro de Pastor Malloquin and the
Cao de Castro Laboreiro. These dogs were widely
spread on the territory of the Canary Islands before
the Spanish were settled there.
In the 19th century, Mastiffs and Old-style bulldogs
appeared on the canary Islands. These dogs were
crossed with the native dogs and the end
result was the Canary dog, also referred to as the
Canario dog.
The Presa Canario was recognized by the
United Kennel Club on January 1, 2003.
http://crownpresa.com/
See, Steve does know 'way too much. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Yes, I know about the sinsemilla, that's what the word means, sin semilla....without seeds.Thought that's what ya all would grow out there. It's extra strong because it doesn't put any energy into seeds, just leaves.
By the way, I have no problem with it for any good medicinal use. Just keep the stoners out from behind the wheel! They are a real problem to the EMTs because our pain response assessment doesn't work and the stuff can mask serious injuries...more work for us. Stay home if you're gonna stay stoned. They do end up in car wrecks and sometimes get whupped in bar fights. Drug induced heroics. Then WE have to deal with 'em. Somebody always calls 9-1-1.
It's amazing how much EMT instructors have to know, especially for the national courses. Even the basic EMT-B course here is 150 hours with many hours of renewals every two years, plus con. ed. classes. Drugs and their effects and interactions are definitely a part of it. From Mary Jane to tar heroin, meth, crack in all it's forms, and all the mixes some people will put in their bodies.One Doc told us that the folks who put these decks and mixes of unknown pills together and take them create a new disease every time they do it . Each drug alone might not ever be a problem in small amounts, but take 'em all it can be a killer. Start with Narcan and hope for the best. I'm surprised Amy Winehouse lasted as long as she did. She was doomed.
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 29, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
See, Steve does know 'way too much. ;D ;D ;D ;)
Yes, I know about the sinsemilla, that's what the word means, sin semilla....without seeds.Thought that's what ya all would grow out there. It's extra strong because it doesn't put any energy into seeds, just leaves.
By the way, I have no problem with it for any good medicinal use. Just keep the stoners out from behind the wheel! They are a real problem to the EMTs because our pain response assessment doesn't work and the stuff can mask serious injuries...more work for us. Stay home if you're gonna stay stoned. They do end up in car wrecks and sometimes get whupped in bar fights. Drug induced heroics. Then WE have to deal with 'em. Somebody always calls 9-1-1.
Well tinctures don't stone ya. Tinctures when you are in pain, alleviate the pain. acts a lot like morphine does. Morphine when your in pain doesn't cause an addiction or so the docs tell me. I worry about that when i am in the hospital. They give me a lot of morphine when i go in. I have such a high pain tolerance as it is that when they give me morphine or daladid, i'm up and walking around 5 min after getting the meds. Takes a lot to knock me down. Wonder if ketamine would work better?
QuoteIt's amazing how much EMT instructors have to know, especially for the national courses. Even the basic EMT-B course here is 150 hours with many hours of renewals every two years, plus con. ed. classes. Drugs and their effects and interactions are definitely a part of it. From Mary Jane to tar heroin, meth, crack in all it's forms, and all the mixes some people will put in their bodies.One Doc told us that the folks who put these decks and mixes of unknown pills together and take them create a new disease every time they do it . Each drug alone might not ever be a problem in small amounts, but take 'em all it can be a killer. Start with Narcan and hope for the best. I'm surprised Amy Winehouse lasted as long as she did. She was doomed.
I'll tell ya, when your doc says he can't prescribe pain killers to you and referes you to a pain management class your basically screwed. SO i can either go to the street and pay top dollar for oxy or i can get some bud and make my own that will last far longer, be less harmful and less dangerous for me to use and be around people. All medicines natural as well as pharmaceuticals have interactions. For example, raspberry tea can cause a miscarraige in a pregnant woman in her early trimester but in her later trimester will help the pregnancy. I've dallied in the herbs for years and know what i can take and can't take. In fact, my doctor asks me about herbs a lot of the time and my experience with them taking them alongside of my pharmaceutical meds. I also have a doctor that knows i know as much about my meds i take as he does and when i adjust myself, he looks at what i do and says ok, that sounds like its working or he disagrees and says lets try something else.
I'm no expert on it but i am a expert on how my body reacts.
I just wish these idiots out there that regulate everything would get off of this cannabis has no medical value. They don't know what they are talking about! The only reason its illegal is cause they don't know a way to tax it and control it.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 01:11:40 PM
First introduced to the world outside of Spain's Canary Islands by the American Anthropologist Dr. Carl Semencic in an article for Dogworld Magazine and in his books on the subject of rare breeds of dogs, the Presa Canario or "Canary Dog" is a large sized dog with a thick and muscular body.[1] The head is broad, massive, square, and powerful. Proper head and good expression are part of the breed standard, and are manifest in the best breed specimens. The ears are normally cropped, both to create a more formidable expression and to prevent damage while working with cattle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_de_Presa_Canario
Presa Canario
We are off topic again let's either start a Presa thread or we can argue by pm.
David
From your link:
July 2011
Another year for large marijuana busts in Kansas.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43777102#
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 02:57:15 PM
July 2011
Another year for large marijuana busts in Kansas.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43777102#
Old news. Not that big a bust either. Sheesh yall call 3000 plants large? :O
max yeld would be 3000 pounds. Not a very large operation at all.
Now I'm really worried about you Steve.The local leos will be looking at you for sure.
i have yet to see someone stoned on pot get in a bar fight.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 05:26:36 PM
Old news. Not that big a bust either. Sheesh yall call 3000 plants large? :O
max yeld would be 3000 pounds. Not a very large operation at all.
Elk County has international\national drug gangs and cartels producing drugs in its midst. Stop it now or end up like the bordertowns of Texas, California, Arizona, and be over run by crime. The 4000 pot plant farm is financed by the same folks that are making the meth.
David
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 29, 2011, 05:32:59 PM
Now I'm really worried about you Steve.The local leos will be looking at you for sure.
I wouldn't doubt it. Shrug. As long as they got a warrant they can come look all they want. :) I don't do anything illegal
Just because i have a opinion that it should be legal doesn't mean i do it. I personally think all drugs should be legal including pharmaceutical drugs. That takes the profit out of drug dealing and kills the market.
Quote from: doobie on July 29, 2011, 05:34:24 PM
i have yet to see someone stoned on pot get in a bar fight.
Thats true. Buzz kill
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 29, 2011, 05:32:59 PM
Now I'm really worried about you Steve.The local leos will be looking at you for sure.
I wouldn't worry about me as much as you should worry bout david over there. He keeps it up and the "cartel" will come after him. I would much rather have LEO's after me than a cartel
The cartel has no beef with me. "Cartel" is who KBI\DEA say is growing pot and traffiking other drugs in Kansas. Especially rural Kansas and rural everywhere else. The pressure on gangs and drug cartels is moving them to the boondocks. If the big city police forces have trouble with them in battle. What happens when they come to rural counties with a smaller police force of 1-10?
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 05:58:03 PM
The cartel has no beef with me. "Cartel" is who KBI\DEA say is growing pot and traffiking other drugs in Kansas. Especially rural Kansas and rural everywhere else. The pressure on gangs and drug cartels is moving them to the boondocks. If the big city police forces have trouble with them in battle. What happens when they come to rural counties with a smaller police force of 1-10?
David
THey got more to worry about from the locals than they do the LEO's.
ever heard of SSS
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
THey got more to worry about from the locals than they do the LEO's.
ever heard of SSS
No Steve I don't recongnize SSS in this context. Enlighten me. I will go out on a limb and post my next response to you now. Yea, that didn't work in Texas, California, or Arizona yet. Why is it going to work in Kansas?
David
I'm with you Steve, not worried agout pot farming (cartel-hee hee). But let's burn the meth labs
Quote from: doobie on July 29, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
I'm with you Steve, not worried agout pot farming (cartel-hee hee). But let's burn the meth labs
Which Doobie U be? Doobie I could guess that you are not worried about pot farms by your choice of name. I could care less if people smoke pot. It is kinda like smoking cigarettes and drinking booze at the same time. When I worked for the San Mateo County Health Department I was part (A Data Analyst) of a team studying medicinal marijuana, one of the few long term clinical studies of medicinal marijuana. Look for the peer reviewed studies under the name of Dr. Israelski, MD, MPH. As far ias cartel that is the DEA\KBI saying that. Plus it sounds like the size and ratty living quarters that the Mexican drug cartels have been busted for in California for the last 15 years.
David
just jokin' around david. we do not need any more crime here than already exists.
Quote from: doobie on July 29, 2011, 06:33:14 PM
just jokin' around david. we do not need any more crime here than already exists.
No problem Doobie. I don't take too much seriously on here. Steve, I think Doobie is a Narc, his IP adress comes back from D.C. Tone down your support for pot. I do have to say I bet he found more info here about the property than he did from records. :laugh:
Now, the pot bust was near turkey rd?, the road 7 gravel incident map showed turkey rd, Elk Konnected mailing addres is Turkey Rd. Is this a long road? Just saying I keep seeing Turkey road. Just feeding the conapiracy theory rumor mill and giving Ross something to check out. All in fun Ross. When the conspiracy proves to be true you will be the man!
David
Well first of all david, your claim his ip addy is from dc, is impossible to get from here, since the software masqs the ip. :) and i doubt doobie contacted you through any other means than this site and i know teresa wouldn't give you the access to see an ip addy of her users. So if you just so happened to get his ip from here, then you have either hacked teresas account or your full of it on the IP. Which is it???
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 07:24:17 PM
Well first of all david, your claim his ip addy is from dc, is impossible to get from here, since the software masqs the ip. :) and i doubt doobie contacted you through any other means than this site and i know teresa wouldn't give you the access to see an ip addy of her users. So if you just so happened to get his ip from here, then you have either hacked teresas account or your full of it on the IP. Which is it???
Steve go on the web were all the script kiddies go to get their hacks. You will find one that will show you all the IP adresses here because of a flaw in the SMF\Simple Machines software. Please, you should know that.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 07:30:16 PM
Steve go on the web were all the script kiddies go to get their hacks. You will find one that will show you all the IP adresses here because of a flaw in the SMF\Simple Machines software. Please, you should know that.
David
Well then you've JUST admitted to hacking teresas forum. I'm giving her a call right this second.
don't worry about deleting the post, i've got a screen capture
Quote from: srkruzich on July 29, 2011, 07:31:34 PM
Well then you've JUST admitted to hacking teresas forum. I'm giving her a call right this second.
No, it is not a hack of the forum or her computer. It just shows your IP just like you see when you post. Works on what shows on your screen never touches the host computer.
David
Just a module produced by the free software SMF that is used to run this forum. Nothing illegal about it. why do you guys take me so seriously? Atleast do a little homework.
David
Using tools that originate from hacking sites the script kiddies go to is hacking. IF you have forgotten you said as much in your post...
Steve go on the web were all the script kiddies go to get their hacks. You will find one that will show you all the IP adresses here because of a flaw in the SMF\Simple Machines software. Please, you should know that.
David
Steve, you are going to have so much egg on your face after this, your goats won't kiss you.
David :D
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 07:38:38 PM
Steve, you are going to have so much egg on your face after this, your goats won't kiss you.
David :D
Rather than hashing it out here, let's let Teresa and these folks sort it out...
http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm (http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm)
Steve, you should know better. Patriot you obviously retired from PI work before the internet was popular. Steve save some goats for Patriot they will have egg on his face too. All I have to do is testify against you two and I get a new name and move to Arizona to run the Warph\Slappy Campaign. Besides Doobie is already on my trail and yours.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 07:51:12 PM
Steve, you should know better. Patriot you obviously retired from PI work before the internet was popular. Steve save some goats for Patriot they will have egg on his face too. All I have to do is testify against you two and I get a new name and move to Arizona to run the Warph\Slappy Campaign. Besides Doobie is already on my trail and yours.
David
You are one sick puppy, imo.
Quote from: Patriot on July 29, 2011, 07:53:20 PM
You are one sick puppy, imo.
I am one sick puppy. Said it myself, before now, many times before. I am ornery too. I don't take you seriously and you should not take me seriously on here. How many times do I have to say this? ??? :D
David
Kjell has all the ip and signon info. for me, you, and doobie. He knows if I am correct or not. By the way I am pulling your leg. I am ornery.
David
Quote from: oldfart on July 29, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
to early for it to have beenharvested yey more like late sept. or oct. as for stuff that grows wild wouldnt get afly high ,my money on who grew it is some one from severy with past any guesses Janet I think he is out of jail
Isn't he getting kind of old for that and I think that field the sheriff just got was more plants then he ever planted in one place.
Quote from: sodbuster on July 29, 2011, 08:33:16 PM
Kjell has all the ip and signon info. for me, you, and doobie. He knows if I am correct or not. By the way I am pulling your leg. I am ornery.
David
I've been out working hard all week long.. I'm tired .. still have a list longer than a country mile to do.. so today is probably not a good day for me to respond. But .. I'm going to anyway....................... ::)
Some people like to puff up and blow smoke so they look like a big important smoke stack.. When the smoke clears though all there is a small pile of ash..
They like to jab and poke and weave tails until they're caught and then they are 'just joking".. or "just kidding".
I can't and don't waste my time on any of it or put much stock in anything that is said from individuals like this. They show their colors all the time.. and aren't fooling anyone.
And
no one can get IPs on here... amateur hacking or otherwise.. Kjell built this site with more smarts and back door scrambling mechanisms than Inspector Gadget.. so no worries to anyone.
Now.... enough said.. I am going to go finish working and then head off tonight to a Shriner function.. There will be booze there... but no wacky tobaccy.. ;)
( and I have to add that back in my younger days I was around the "weed" alot.. and I never ever saw any violence of any kind happen with weed smokers.. in fact a few outburts might have been a welcome change on occasion.. lol )
I am not supporting "weed" or any other type of drugs of choice. But I have to say this. I have known people staggering around, drunker than lords, shooting off their mouths about how they don't do drugs. But because alchohol is legal, it is all right.
NOT IN MY BOOK!!!
If it changes your natural disposition, it is not all right. If you have to have a drink or two to stand my company, I don't want to be your company. If my natural ebullience isn't enough for you, it is your loss. If you have had a drink or two, don't come to see me or even speak to me. I CAN"T STAND YOU!!
Well Wilma, I guess our honeymoon just ended---burp !! ;D
Jarhead, does this mean that I won't get a catfish fillet from you? Shucky-darn.
No Wilma, no fish for you because I like a little sip of John Barley-Corn so you can't stand me. No I will give the fish to Jo McD because she will share a glass of" Fruit of the Vine" when I give her fish. Sorry. ;)
If I might, I'd like to revisit something I said earlier that I thought was clear and I guess wasn't.
Yes, I have picked up people high on marijuana at bar fights. I didn't say they won. I said they got whupped. I can think of three in particular, two in town at the Stone Balloon years ago, one at the Deer Park and one south of town in a little joint with a rough reputation at best,The Wayside Inn.
All three had been beat up for shooting off their mouths trying to be funny or making smart remarks to some guys who were angry and took exception to what the guy had said. One had a split lip, two badly swollen eyes, a broken cheek bone and had his left ear hanging by a thread. He tried to refuse service after we were called. He had made a remark about one person's motorcycle out in the Deer Park parking lot. Not the best idea he's had that night. The other two...one was out cold with a head injury at the rear of the bar and one the other was just a " one punch" busted lip from a well aimed smash in the mouth. All three were high on pot that they had smoked out side before they went into drink. Honest, I don't make these things up, I don't have to. Believe me or not, that's up to you.
In my opinion:
"Venici, Vifumas, Viillum!!!!! "
(I came, I smoke, I eat)
My apologies to Latin scholars.
Geez..I remember that in church they used to offer wine as the blood of the Lamb until they changed it to Welch's grape juice. Some churches still offer wine during communion. I guess that makes people horrible to be drinking wine!
And what about Barack Obama being on TV on the White House lawn having a Beer Summit? Bill Clinton admitted to smoking weed.
I'm proud of you Wilma for sticking with Nancy Reagan's Republican policy of JUST SAY NO! You should be the NEW Carrie Nation!
Quote from: jarhead on July 30, 2011, 03:38:24 PM
No Wilma, no fish for you because I like a little sip of John Barley-Corn so you can't stand me. No I will give the fish to Jo McD because she will share a glass of" Fruit of the Vine" when I give her fish. Sorry. ;)
Jarhead-----YOU are more than welcome to come to OUR house anytime you want to partake of some TEQUILA or BOURBON. I believe that our natural ebullience would be wonderfully enhanced with some of your homemade hooch, fruit of the vine, stumpwater, mule kick, corn squeezins', white lightnin', moonshine, who hit John, Colorado koolaid, mountain dew, sauce, giggle water, OH HELL I THINK YOU GET MY POINT! Just bring Joyce and come on down and we'll have a helluva time!!!
Well if i were to do some cooking like some folks were talking about in another thread, wilma won't be able to eat any cause i use Bourbon, Rum, wine, and beer in my cooking. No its not cooked out either. Though i do make a Awesome Kentucky bourbon chocolate pecan pie that cooks the bourbon.
kshillbilly: you forgot the most important:
"Wobbly Pops" ;D
I want a Wobbly Pop!
If Janet was still in charge this would have been CASE CLOSED!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, Janet, can't help being a wise guy
I think you are right. :police:
I don't know about that. I took several marijuana patches with no arrests, too. It all just depends on how much time you have to give to watching and waiting. When Copeland was sheriff, Elk County took a couple of fairly large fields with arrests. That was some fun. However; doobie, thanks for the confidence.
I miss you being at the helm Janet. I know you were more than fair with me when I "STRAYED" a couple of times. That leads to respect for you from me for all time. May sound like BS coming from me but it is not! Thanks again girl