Would a tax break lure you to rural Kansas?
If you ever get tired of traffic, crowds and the other stresses of urban life, you may dream of moving somewhere for a smaller, simpler, quieter life.
Kansas has a deal for you.
In an attempt to draw new residents to rural counties with shrinking populations, Kansas has put together an incentive package for people who agree to move to designated "rural opportunity zones" from another state.
The deals include a five-year vacation from state income taxes and a chance to get up to $15,000 in student loans paid off, if you stay five years. The average Kansas pays $1,800 a year in state income tax.
"This is a risk-free opportunity for us to draw attention to parts of our state that are losing population and offer another incentive to get people to move to Kansas," said Sherriene Jones-Sontag, spokeswoman for Gov. Sam Brownback, in the Kansas City Star.
But is it enough to draw any new residents?A handful of other rural areas, including some in Kansas, offer incentives to attract new residents, including free land, utility-bill forgiveness and tax abatement.
Even some residents of the Kansas counties that want to lure new residents are skeptical that the financial incentives are enough to woo new people.
"It's unproven," Republic County Commisioner Frank Rytych said in the Star. "It's not that we're against the program. We don't know that it's going to pan out OK. We don't want to get caught holding the bag."
One problem with the incentives is that income tax doesn't necessarily motivate many people to move.
"People simply do not make migration decisions based on income-tax issues," Laszlo Kulcsar, a demographer at Kansas State University, said in the Star.
The Census Bureau recently reported that the most common reason people had for moving in 2010 was to find a better, cheaper or different house, followed by family and employment reasons. Taxes were not anywhere on the list, and only 11% of those who moved went to another state.
Kansas officials have said that they want to compete against popular states that have no income tax, such as Florida, Tennessee and Texas. But that raises the question of why someone would choose a small town in Kansas over popular areas of Texas, Tennessee and Florida.
http://realestate.msn.com/blogs/listedblogpost.aspx?post=cf944e30-94ef-471f-a916-993de00b57ab>1=35006
I think that a good paying job would have to be the first priority to make the move. What good will the tax break be if there is no income to tax? The whole thing just doesn't make sense. Does it even sound good? Just another of Brownback's gimmicks to make you think that he is thinking about rural Kansas when he has already bashed most of it.
Here are the 50 Kansas Counties that fall under the Rural Opportunity Zones:
Barber, Chautauqua, Cheyenne, Clark, Cloud, Comanche, Decatur, Edwards, Elk, Gove, Graham, Greeley, Greenwood, Hamilton, Harper, Hodgeman, Jewell, Kearny, Kingman, Kiowa, Lane, Lincoln, Logan, Marion, Mitchell, Morton, Ness, Norton, Osborne, Pawnee, Phillips, Pratt, Rawlins, Republic, Rooks, Rush, Russell, Scott, Sheridan, Sherman, Smith, Stafford, Stanton, Thomas, Trego, Wallace, Washington, Wichita, Wilson and Woodson.
More Info at Kansas Dept. of Commerce
http://www.kansascommerce.com/index.aspx?NID=320
Quote from: sodbuster on July 25, 2011, 01:44:26 PM
Here are the 50 Kansas Counties that fall under the Rural Opportunity Zones:
Barber, Chautauqua, Cheyenne, Clark, Cloud, Comanche, Decatur, Edwards, Elk, Gove, Graham, Greeley, Greenwood, Hamilton, Harper, Hodgeman, Jewell, Kearny, Kingman, Kiowa, Lane, Lincoln, Logan, Marion, Mitchell, Morton, Ness, Norton, Osborne, Pawnee, Phillips, Pratt, Rawlins, Republic, Rooks, Rush, Russell, Scott, Sheridan, Sherman, Smith, Stafford, Stanton, Thomas, Trego, Wallace, Washington, Wichita, Wilson and Woodson.
LOL if they think that folks are going to move here to elk for the tax breaks got another thing to think about! LOL....
What tax break :O..... what jobs are there to even make money to pay taxes with!
Good thing you live in Greenwood county then isn't it Steve!! Why did you move out here then?? You are always trashing it and my opinion is if you don't like it leave!! I live here because I have lived in bigger towns and been in the bigger schools for observation and such, and they have nothing on the smaller ones in Elk or bordering towns!! I live here because, well I was born and raised in Severy!! I went to school in Howard, and I love Howard. Ok, well my husband does have a farm and we live and work on it, but it fit my life and it's the kind of life and place I want my girls to grow up!! They couldn't go out the back door and chase their chickens, feed their bucket calf, or drive a four wheeler in the bigger towns!!
I LOVE ELK COUNTY !!!!!!!!
Would free land help you decide?
Kansas is a great place to live, play, work or own a business. We would like you to consider moving to
Kansas and have created incentives to draw you to our wonderful state.
Several communities in Kansas are offering free land and other incentives.
Our goal is to help our rural areas sustain and grow economically.
We welcome you to take a look at the various communities.
Click on the city name on the map above and you will be redirected to their website.
Each community's incentives are unique and offered by local government
and/or development groups.
http://kansasfreeland.com/
Quote from: Lookatmeknow!! on July 25, 2011, 02:17:05 PM
Good thing you live in Greenwood county then isn't it Steve!! Why did you move out here then?? You are always trashing it and my opinion is if you don't like it leave!!
Trash? Nope i don't trash it. I do have a preference, and i intend to turn my place into what i prefer. I dont' like it as it is.
QuoteI live here because I have lived in bigger towns and been in the bigger schools for observation and such, and they have nothing on the smaller ones in Elk or bordering towns!! I live here because, well I was born and raised in Severy!! I went to school in Howard, and I love Howard. Ok, well my husband does have a farm and we live and work on it, but it fit my life and it's the kind of life and place I want my girls to grow up!! They couldn't go out the back door and chase their chickens, feed their bucket calf, or drive a four wheeler in the bigger towns!!
I LOVE ELK COUNTY !!!!!!!!
well thats good things about it just like i love that usually no one bothers me here. Have had a couple that did and they got the message real fast to back off and stay away.
It has its good points as well as bad point. So does every other place. Sure wish God had blessed the area with some mountains though. Miss that cool breeze that usually comes off them. I can think of far far worse places to live.
As far as the government, i'll call it like i see it. Elk CO greenwood co, if its corrupt, i'm not going to hold my tongue about it. IF its a good government i'll praise it as well but that my friend has yet to happen. The day that a county/town government runs according to constitutional principles then you bet i'll applaud it! Until then i don't care where it is, i'm going to keep turning up heat.
After all if no one does anything about it then they just continue on business as usual.
Besides you don't know what i own. :)
Quote from: sodbuster on July 25, 2011, 04:00:48 PM
Would free land help you decide?
Kansas is a great place to live, play, work or own a business. We would like you to consider moving to
Kansas and have created incentives to draw you to our wonderful state.
Several communities in Kansas are offering free land and other incentives.
Our goal is to help our rural areas sustain and grow economically.
We welcome you to take a look at the various communities.
Click on the city name on the map above and you will be redirected to their website.
Each community's incentives are unique and offered by local government
and/or development groups.
http://kansasfreeland.com/
ROTFL NOPE not at all, not with the restrictions they place on it! that offer has been out for a couple decades. Very few people even bother to jump on it and i know of one individual that did and got royally screwed over in eureka when they did. They took the deal, paid all the fees and taxes and the city changed the rules after they bought into it.
Steve I don't think those programs are meant for you. You already live in a ROZ county. You moved there with less incentive than is provided by those two programs. I think you are just trying to keep people from moving to Kansas and populating\driving taxes up in your town. I can appreciate that. I am trying to get people from California to move to Kansas to get us back to our rural roots. It would be easier for me to move to Howard, but I just had more than enough of shoveling snow in my life.
David
Not enough Kool Aid here for the people of Kalifornia................. ;D Just sayin.........
Quote from: sodbuster on July 25, 2011, 09:00:24 PM
Steve I don't think those programs are meant for you. You already live in a ROZ county. You moved there with less incentive than is provided by those two programs. I think you are just trying to keep people from moving to Kansas and populating\driving taxes up in your town. I can appreciate that. I am trying to get people from California to move to Kansas to get us back to our rural roots. It would be easier for me to move to Howard, but I just had more than enough of shoveling snow in my life.
David
no david i am telling you the way it is. There is a couple brothers in eureka. Eureka is giving away free land. Well its not free, it comes with strings and LOTS of strings. They went in signed the deal and got the property. OHhh and you do have to pay money for it. They charge closing costs and taxes. When they accepted it it was zoned for house or business. Well they went and spent the money to set up the property for a business and when they went to get building permits they were denied. Then the city changed the zoning so they couldn't build their business. Now the land contract required them to build a building on it in a year. well they couldn't' get the permits and the city took the land away from them. BIG racket!
Goes back to what i said in another post. NOTHING in this world is free!
You are right on that Steve...
Its a nightmare sham..
Talked to some people who checked into it..
Total total nightmare to the worst degree.
Quote from: Teresa on July 25, 2011, 09:05:19 PM
Not enough Kool Aid here for the people of Kalifornia................. ;D Just sayin.........
:laugh:
Teresa, Kansas has a population of 3.2 million people. I guarantee that I could send 3.2 million out of the 32 million that would be indistinguishable from a Kansan in beliefs, attitudes, lifestyle etc. They may not all be white like in Elk County, but they would make it and get along.
David
;D I'm just pokin the snakes with a stick ... ;D I have a lot of friends from California too David.. I will be shooting in a championship match in September in California.. I don't agree with their politics but I love my friends who live there..
They think I am the biggest redneck they have ever met though...and I try to do something to up that opinion every year I'm out there.. HAHaHA ;D ;D
Quote from: Teresa on July 25, 2011, 09:18:14 PM
;D I'm just pokin the snakes with a stick ... ;D I have a lot of friends from California too David.. I will be shooting in a championship match in September in California.. I don't agree with their politics but I love my friends who live there..
They think I am the biggest redneck they have ever met though...and I try to do something to up that opinion every year I'm out there.. HAHaHA ;D ;D
Teresa, I could take you to all the places in California where a redneck would be welcomed. Plenty of people here that would agree with your politics. I am one and I know more. Not that I won't play up the Berkeley radical thing just for fun. Where is the match that you will be shooting at in September? I think I could round up several California rednecks to come watch. I am really am interested in were the match is.
David
I could also hook you up with all the massage, candle lighting, aroma therapy, peacock feather, crystal therapy, incense burning, hippies left over from the 60's. Just don't talk politics with them and you will get along fine.
David
p.s. I have no problem with you poking the snake. Just don't sic the flying monkeys on me. :(
p.s.s. It is always worth chewing through the straps. That was the only time the burn unit nurses yelled at me. I made them take the straps off me. I then pulled out my feeding tube in the middle of the night. Then they put it back in my nose which was not fun. Ok maybe the straps were a good idea.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 25, 2011, 09:06:44 PM
no david i am telling you the way it is. There is a couple brothers in eureka. Eureka is giving away free land. Well its not free, it comes with strings and LOTS of strings. They went in signed the deal and got the property. OHhh and you do have to pay money for it. They charge closing costs and taxes. When they accepted it it was zoned for house or business. Well they went and spent the money to set up the property for a business and when they went to get building permits they were denied. Then the city changed the zoning so they couldn't build their business. Now the land contract required them to build a building on it in a year. well they couldn't' get the permits and the city took the land away from them. BIG racket!
Goes back to what i said in another post. NOTHING in this world is free!
Steve I trust you in what you say. I agree nothing in this world is free. The only exception I know of is when you burn up in a fire and become infamous in your California town of 25,000. You get a lot of free stuff and help from people from Kansas and San Mateo County. People you don't even know. Naah some things you do get totally free. And as a good Kansas boy you pass that on to others even if you don't live in Kansas anymore. That it why I have always said all kids should grow up in Kansas. Now the tric is if we can just make it so they have a reason to stay in Kansas.
David
Ok kids why should someone move to Elk County Kansas. Wilma and Steve gave their negative view on the tax break. Though both live in EK\Grnw. Could it be that the only reason to move there is that you are on Social Security. After all EK is known for its large population of people on Social Security. But then there is Angie business owner\soon to be SPED teacher?. Now with Poplar Pizza for Italian food and Connie for Mexican and doghnuts I think I am closer to moving back to Kansas. Toots is still there and that is important too. OK Kansas people what should lure people to rural Kansas?
David
David, I am an Elk County citizen by choice.
I was born and raised in Topeka and my dad and siblings and families still live up there.
My husband's brother lived in Independence and we moved there to be closer to him and to expierence something (we didn't know what) and even tho we were raising kids....(we kind of burned our boats and needed to stay cause with Bob's lack of education 8th grade. jobs were out there, just none that raised a family............Until Bob got on at ARCO and well a long story short...............marriage got rocky and we divorced and I went back to work at my favorite job hospital work and then to Elk County.
Met a guy while working and was very lonely and tired of raising 3 teenagers and oh needless to say, jumped into that marriage and tho it did go south...............I chose to stay in Elk County.
My kids loved it here, altho two enlisted and chose to stay where they got out and daughter moved to Wisconsin where her hubby is from.
I am getting to Elk County........I really am. May cross a lot of this out, but brain is not real allert today and trying to remember is giving me a headache.
LOL Now, I have no family here in southeast Kansas.
I must rely on all the government help, and church family help and do you know, My favorite time of day is walking down Kansas either just walking or going to cafe/post office or whateve...........and I can't go past a car/truck with out having someone wave at me.
Altho I am mainly self sufficient.....my health is such that may not be possible in a few years. I turn 69 this year and am developing health concerns.
You must love nature....and people must be able to entertain their self.........and until this year, I always went to school functions and community activities.
I like the slowness of the smaller county. Plus when there is a disaster in the county everyone who can helps in some way.
Either by prayer, clothing drives, food is gathered and delivered with NO STRINGS
Personally, I looked into moving back to Topeka and being closer to family.
I can't afford it. I am not totally disabled yet, but that could happen. And someday I may have to move north. That is up to God.
I am on a very fixed income and according to Obama, it ain't going up any.
No, Steve, I am not employable........no matter what you say. (I could babysit dogs and cats maybe.) But, drop what I pick up, hands haven't a lot of grip, and legs start to give out on me if I can't walk 30 minutes a day 5 times a week. and keep moving.
One of my biggest regrets is that when Bob and I moved to Independence, we didn't get to Elk County first.
Heck I never knew Longton was around until the big flood in 76 and nurses I worked with at hospital could not get in to work.
I think my kids would have fared better in this smaller/laid back/ Busy county.
I know I would have enjoyed living here as a kid....and ok, enough.
There are negative points.....
but someone else can have a turn.......no three people agree to everything........look at all the hot-heads here on forum and sharp tongues.
To me Elk County is God's country!
:angel:
Judy, if your 69 then you've done your dues LOL. ;) Why don't ya just go on full retirement. Shrug. I knowwhat your talking about though i went through that same thing til i just dropped. :)
Unfortunately dont' expect to live on what you get anymore, obama has seen to that! Part of his "budget" cuts is our colas. Gotta love boener for walking away when he did.
Steve I have been on SSI since I was about 55.........maybe before....and when I got to 62 I got on my ex's Social Security. and then when I hit 65 we got me full social security with enough SSI to cover or help with medicine cost. IF IF IF,
I did not have the help, I would have to choose between pain and starvation.............and then having enough to buy toilet paper......heck can't find catalogs that are flushable any more.......LOL I feel real bad for the people who have to do this.
My health is mainly pain/and crippleness. neither is beyond what I can handle YET. but the meds help me with the pain level and when I am having a bad day with fibromyalgia.........or "Brain Fog!" I have trouble reading simple instructions....let alone dealing with important issues and or math issues.
Now, I am not complaining.........I can get grumpy and when I am hurting, I am usually quiet and popping pills like heck. Praise the Lord, we have found the right combination of pills to make this more seasonal than all the time. I have trouble, big trouble when the seasons change and change and change again..........all in the same day and altho I enjoy the heat of summer.......had enough this year.........and wouldn't mind some cooling. A/C's do a number..........ok, enough. I need to hit my column this morning and then find something else to do.
I had my walk this morning and will need to go get mail for me and Irene.
So play nicely people and God be with yu.
Steve, our "cola"s depend on the cost of living according to law. Neither the president nor any other individual has anything to do with it. This has been explained every year on this forum. Don't you pay attention or is your memory board deteriorating?
Why did I move to Howard? For one reason, Howard is home. I don't care if the job opportunities are zilch. But I can't see any reason for a young family to move here just for a break on their state income tax. We do have a very good school. Our merchants are fantastic. There is everything a person could need right here in Elk County, except a good job.
We lived in Severy for twenty-five years while the family was growing up. My husband drove to Wichita every day to work. He car pooled most of the time. But when the children were on their own, we moved to Sedgwick County where I could have a good paying job, too, without the hassle of riding 130 miles every day. Instead, I had the hassle of driving to downtown Wichita every day. We lived on a secluded street in the county, not inside any city limits. That is the only way we could have stayed the 26 years that I lived there. Jim died in 2004 before we could get moved back to Elk County. With him gone, and my physical condition, I could not live in the country like I wanted to. Actually, my choice for a location for a home for myself would be on top of Eagle Head. Perfect. Or it was back then.
Quote from: Judy Harder on July 26, 2011, 07:46:46 AM
Steve I have been on SSI since I was about 55.........maybe before....and when I got to 62 I got on my ex's Social Security. and then when I hit 65 we got me full social security with enough SSI to cover or help with medicine cost. IF IF IF,
I did not have the help, I would have to choose between pain and starvation.............and then having enough to buy toilet paper......heck can't find catalogs that are flushable any more.......LOL I feel real bad for the people who have to do this.
My health is mainly pain/and crippleness. neither is beyond what I can handle YET. but the meds help me with the pain level and when I am having a bad day with fibromyalgia.........or "Brain Fog!" I have trouble reading simple instructions....let alone dealing with important issues and or math issues.
Oh lord i know what your sayin! I get the angina when i overdo it. I get out there and go until it starts hurting then set down and then get back up and go again til it starts hurting again.
QuoteNow, I am not complaining.........I can get grumpy and when I am hurting, I am usually quiet and popping pills like heck. Praise the Lord, we have found the right combination of pills to make this more seasonal than all the time. I have trouble, big trouble when the seasons change and change and change again..........all in the same day and altho I enjoy the heat of summer.......had enough this year.........and wouldn't mind some cooling. A/C's do a number..........ok, enough. I need to hit my column this morning and then find something else to do.
I had my walk this morning and will need to go get mail for me and Irene.
So play nicely people and God be with yu.
I fiind that winter is my nemesis now. I started having major problems with my shoulders this last winter, went and took all kinds of tests and they said nothing could be done. I have RA in my shoulders. Such is life. Just another obsticle for me to climb over.
Quote from: Wilma on July 26, 2011, 07:58:09 AM
Steve, our "cola"s depend on the cost of living according to law. Neither the president nor any other individual has anything to do with it. This has been explained every year on this forum. Don't you pay attention or is your memory board deteriorating?
You haven't been paying attention wilma. OBAMA's denied us colas since he took office. YOU CANNOT TELL ME That inflation hasn't gone up. Secondly SS colas are listed in the list of the cuts the dems are proposing as a revenue raiser. Yeah they can take them away.
I know what ya mean on moving to where the jobs are. This area has a serious lack of employment. What a shame too. I'm working on that though, but it takes time!
Obama has not denied us COLAs. The law states that cost of living adjustment be made according to the cost of living at a certain date. On that date, for the past two years, there has been no cost of living showing. Thus, no cost of living of living adjustment for social security recipients. As long as there is no cost of living showing on that date as compared to that date a year ago, there will be no COLA.
Stop with the blaming someone that had nothing to do with what was written into the law a long time ago. In fact, stop with the blaming until YOU can come up with a workable solution.
Quote from: Wilma on July 26, 2011, 08:14:39 AM
Obama has not denied us COLAs. The law states that cost of living adjustment be made according to the cost of living at a certain date. On that date, for the past two years, there has been no cost of living showing. Thus, no cost of living of living adjustment for social security recipients. As long as there is no cost of living showing on that date as compared to that date a year ago, there will be no COLA.
AGAIN wilma you haven't been paying attention! They changed the cola requirements twice now. They do not count any energy or food anymore. THey also removed something else from the formula which prevented the figures from showing a increase in inflation. Obama imposed tax cuts on us the first day he took office! THEN on top of that he raised our premiums for medicare and that is going up to over 200 a month in 2014.
QuoteStop with the blaming someone that had nothing to do with what was written into the law a long time ago. In fact, stop with the blaming until YOU can come up with a workable solution.
THE WORKABLE SOLUTION is to toss his ass and 90% of congress out on the street and make him unemployed!
Let's start with the Congress. Obama cannot do anything without their vote and they don't seem inclined to go along with him, do they? No, Obama is not denying us our cola increases. The cost of living as it shows on that certain day denies our cola.
Quote from: Wilma on July 26, 2011, 10:03:42 AM
Let's start with the Congress. Obama cannot do anything without their vote and they don't seem inclined to go along with him, do they? No, Obama is not denying us our cola increases. The cost of living as it shows on that certain day denies our cola.
Actually toss obama first. he's supposed to be leading and hasn't even started yet!
You can't lead a flock that won't follow.
Quote from: Wilma on July 26, 2011, 02:24:15 PM
You can't lead a flock that won't follow.
yeah but you can lead them with a goat. just look at the last presidential election!
The congress controls what goes on , the current president was a lame duck from the beginning of his term. Go after Pelosi or Boxer.
Quote from: Jefe de vaca on July 26, 2011, 10:08:20 PM
The congress controls what goes on , the current president was a lame duck from the beginning of his term. Go after Pelosi or Boxer.
cut the head off the snake and the rest will die
It's a nest of snakes, and they've got each others backs.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 26, 2011, 08:07:42 AM
You haven't been paying attention wilma. OBAMA's denied us colas since he took office. YOU CANNOT TELL ME That inflation hasn't gone up. Secondly SS colas are listed in the list of the cuts the dems are proposing as a revenue raiser. Yeah they can take them away.
I know what ya mean on moving to where the jobs are. This area has a serious lack of employment. What a shame too. I'm working on that though, but it takes time!
The current Social Security COLA is based on the CPI-W and has been since the 70's. The change Steve is talking about, to chained CPI-U was proposed by the "Gang of Six" a group of 3 Dem's and 3 Republicans not Obama. Though he has said he would support the change. Steve is correct that it will reduce COLA's in the future. CPI-W would be better for seniors than the proposed change.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 27, 2011, 10:29:50 AM
The current Social Security COLA is based on the CPI-W and has been since the 70's. The change Steve is talking about, to chained CPI-U was proposed by the "Gang of Six" a group of 3 Dem's and 3 Republicans not Obama. Though he has said he would support the change. Steve is correct that it will reduce COLA's in the future. CPI-W would be better for seniors than the proposed change.
David
Heres the deal. IF the would accept the CCB and pass a balanced budget amendment, i would forgo the colas! WHY? Because if they balance the budget, our dollar would grow, and when our dollar grows, so does our spending power. That would eliminate the need for a COLA because prices would come down! Its basic economics. WHy this government thinks it has to have a unliimited credit card is beyond me. There isn't enough money in the world to fund the democrats spending! THe republicans are bad enough but damn the democrats have taken it to a new level!
Quote from: srkruzich on July 27, 2011, 10:37:36 AM
Heres the deal. IF the would accept the CCB and pass a balanced budget amendment, i would forgo the colas! WHY? Because if they balance the budget, our dollar would grow, and when our dollar grows, so does our spending power. That would eliminate the need for a COLA because prices would come down! Its basic economics. WHy this government thinks it has to have a unliimited credit card is beyond me. There isn't enough money in the world to fund the democrats spending! THe republicans are bad enough but damn the democrats have taken it to a new level!
Too far off topic, but a Budget topic would go well in the Politics section. I don't think there is one there which kinda suprised me?
Steve you would be a good person to start that thread if you so choose.
What would get you to move to Rural Kansas?
What got me to move here is this and only this. The prices. I didn't care about getting something for nothing cause i'm not that way. I prefer to buy my own stuff and not have any strings attached.
The way it was is this, cost of living is so bad on the east coast that you can't live there if your income isn't at least 2000 a month. You can but i don't live in crack houses. The bubble burst and the banks took the house. They got this near kool trick on throwing you into a default situation so they can take your home. Oh well its kinda funny they took it and lost it too. Two years after they took it some crackhead burned it down. Karma!
At any rate I lived on the land. Outdoors, fended for myself from may that year til october. Being smart enough to know that when you have congestive heart failure and living in a camp trailer on land and hving tocut wood haul water, no conveniences to speak of, that you would not survive a winter that way. SO i moved here because i found a farm for 32k and it was owner financed with no money down. Awesome deal. Got told by a lot of folks i paid way too much for the place but coming from where i just came from this place would have sold for 150k or more.
Prices were primary reason, secondary reason is i don't have the damn government telling me what to do like i did in the counties i lived in back east. They stay out of my life and i'm happy. Third, i don't have some ass coming around telling me what i can and can't do with my property. Fourth, THeres more cows than people. I prefer it that way. Cows make better neighbors usually.
THere ya have it in a nutshell.
I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough road, Steve. I think you are to be commended for having done as well as you have, given everything you've had to deal with. I can see where being insulated from the rest of the world and the isolation of a rural life would be appealing to you.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 27, 2011, 01:01:14 PM
I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough road, Steve. I think you are to be commended for having done as well as you have, given everything you've had to deal with. I can see where being insulated from the rest of the world and the isolation of a rural life would be appealing to you.
Cat its not rough it's just life. You either adapt and overcome or you just die. I laughed my ass off when the banks collapsed said it serves them right! The ones that collapsed were the ones who were thieves. The ones that didn't collapse were honest to God good banks that loved their customers. It just goes to show, vengeance is the Lords and he does a awesome job of decimating those who would harm any of his children.
:o Just looked at the top right of the forum and it says Howard is 105. Thank God that I am 1- 2 months away from that kind of heat. I remember my older brother and I waiting until 11:00pm to Midnight to do our training for cross country. That way the temp. was down to 95 or so. :o
David :laugh:
I owned a small business which employed 6 people. Several years ago I considered moving it to elk county because of my roots and family there. There are several reasons why I decided against it. Money isn't everything. While its a great quiet, peaceful place to raise a family, it's just not a place that appeals to people because there's not a lot of recreational opportunities, and well, just go read the politics section.