Interesting - The Tea Partiers have their own playbook on how to hi-jack open forums like town-hall meetings. Could the fact that these tactics are twarted by using the type of meeting Elk Konnected has used be the reason Ross and Patriot and others are so pissed off about things like the Delphi Technique and processes that lead to decisions made by consensus, and not decisions made by the tyranny of the most vocal.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/08/memo-details-co-ordinated-anti-reform-harrassment-strategy.php?page=1
Flint...You are making a lot of sense... ;D ;D...Proud of you!
Quote from: Catwoman on July 18, 2011, 01:00:41 PM
Flint...You are making a lot of sense... ;D ;D...Proud of you!
Flint, don't go ruining it for the rest of us and start making sense. Ya' hear. You're going to ruin all the fun we're a havin'. :'(
David
Quote from: flintauqua on July 18, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Interesting - The Tea Partiers have their own playbook on how to hi-jack open forums like town-hall meetings. Could the fact that these tactics are twarted by using the type of meeting Elk Konnected has used be the reason Ross and Patriot and others are so pissed off about things like the Delphi Technique and processes that lead to decisions made by consensus, and not decisions made by the tyranny of the most vocal.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/08/memo-details-co-ordinated-anti-reform-harrassment-strategy.php?page=1
Actually it would be very easy to shut down a delphi meeting and destroy any possible chance of them hoodwinking the people involved. All ya gotta do is show them to be liars and that would be very easy to do.
Quote from: srkruzich on July 18, 2011, 01:53:30 PM
...All ya gotta do is show them to be liars and that would be very easy to do.
Even after the fact. Stay connected thinking citizens. Some of us know you're reading... and reading for context.
Yes, stay connected...Because there's evil afoot in Elk County...There's conspiracies everywhere...Even when you're thinking you're safe aslumber in your own little beddie-by, there are a select few out there that are plotting to overthrow all you good people with their nefarious plots. You just know that those who dast to meet in their darkened rooms, in circles of evil created, with nary an acknowledged tyrannical leader, are weaving their plots of rock and gravel and roads made passable...Plots of making children have fun against their will...Plots where the wailing and nashing of teeth are heard from yon forum, where the cat-o-nine tails is heard to be flailed against their martyred backs...
Oh...Sorry...Uh...Where were we?
Oh please kind mistress, yon forum needs more of thy admonishments, especially to engage one's body in random play and the showing of small bleeting mammals of the milking kind at at yon faire that pleases all comers. For sooth and anon! Ribbons instead of lollipops?
Quote from: Catwoman on July 18, 2011, 02:43:23 PM
Yes, stay connected...
...Oh...Sorry...Uh...Where were we?
New approaches today. I like it. Still, many continue to be slanted toward personal attack. But I like it. It's illustrative to say the least.
We were continuing to discuss events and issues involving the appearance of impropriety in local government with respect to its' commingling of monies, efforts and agendas with a private company...regardless of anyone's 'good intentions'. We were allowing significant numbers of silent readers to read all the points, counterpoints and see the sidesteps. We were allowing them to form their own opinions and to share those with their friends, neighbors and relatives. In short, we were engaging in open, non-facilitated public debate & discussion.
Quote from: Patriot on July 18, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
... In short, we were engaging in open, non-facilitated public debate & discussion.
At this point I would seriously like to thank Teresa and Kjell for facillitating all the conversations we have here on the forum and the way in which they do it. No kidding. No Joking. We are very lucky.
David
That's no joke...Teresa is one patient woman! ;D
Quote from: sodbuster on July 18, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
At this point I would seriously like to thank Teresa and Kjell for facillitating all the conversations we have here on the forum and the way in which they do it. No kidding. No Joking. We are very lucky.
David
On that point, David, we can entirely agree.
Quote from: Patriot on July 18, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
On that point, David, we can entirely agree.
Can I get an
Amen from the congregation! 8)
Quote from: Patriot on July 18, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
On that point, David, we can entirely agree.
Patriot, there is much more too, but you will have to go back and read the many hundreds, possibly thousands, of my posts to know for sure. Just remember as I said in my pm to you the other day; If you tell anyone the old man Patriot beat the youngster I will deny that it happened. ;)
David
Patriot--Patty---Patsy--etc-------damn Fly-Boy you got a lot of nicknames.
If I never learn another thing by reading this forum I think I have learned why most children go to school being courteous little tykes and in a short time become little smart mouthed brats.
Oh, I agree, Jarhead... :o...The effect of those children listening to their parents' linguistic habits can be devastating. Where it really starts to be bad is when the kids get onto their parents' various websites that they lurk on and then start reading what their parents write...They really get an education then, the poor kiddos... ::) I always told my parents that I would believe one quarter of what the kids would tell at school if the parents would kindly do the same in return for me.
So true, Cat. I was known as the Mom that talked to the teachers. When my children came home with a wild tale, I would go to the schoolhouse and talk to the teachers. Most of the time the tale had been bandied about so much that what my kids got home with was far from the truth.
Quote from: jarhead on July 18, 2011, 04:15:28 PM
Patriot--Patty---Patsy--etc-------damn Fly-Boy you got a lot of nicknames.
If I never learn another thing by reading this forum I think I have learned why most children go to school being courteous little tykes and in a short time become little smart mouthed brats.
I agree jarhead. If I learned another thing by reading this forum it is that sometimes those kids go into the Marines. But in the end they are good guys.
David
Quote from: sodbuster on July 18, 2011, 05:11:30 PM
I agree jarhead. If I learned another thing by reading this forum it is that sometimes those kids go into the Marines. But in the end they are good guys.
David
Even I'm smart enough to
not say that to a Marine... ::)
Quote from: Teresa on July 18, 2011, 09:32:23 PM
Even I'm smart enough to not say that to a Marine... ::)
I am smart enough to say it only when I am on the computer.
David
Yep~~ that seems to be the case in many areas...............
Quote from: Teresa on July 18, 2011, 09:36:58 PM
Yep~~ that seems to be the case in many areas...............
May seem that way, but I can handle myself in person too. I can drop someone if needed.
David
Guess we'll never know for sure~ will we.
Aw hell Teresa, I been missing all the fun on this thread. I read that little dig earlier but decided to ignore it considering the source and now you went and defended me and sounds like someone is either gonna shoot you or cold cock you--------------------let me rephrase that (considering the source again )--------whack the shit out of you !!!
Once in awhile there seems to be some that absolutely loathes anything to do with Military. I always ask myself "why do they feel that way ? Did they try to join but the DADT policy keep them out ? Did a Fly-Boy piss in their Wheaties ?' Maybe a Army guy stole their girl friend. A sailor bitch slap them ? Most Marines believe in 'peace love--peace love' so that can't be it. Aw the mystery of it all !!
Jar, there's nothing wrong with being in the Military...I wish I had been able to fulfill the long line of service that is in my family line. As it is...If needed, this old warhorse would still muster enough get-up-and-go to defend this nation. I would be defending a lot...My own children, my students, my family, my way of life. And, as far as you needing defending...LOL... :o...Uh, I don't think you're doing a bad job on your own! lol You and I may not see eye to eye on some things but that doesn't diminish the amount of respect that I have for you. Period.
Cat.
Quote from: flintauqua on July 18, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Interesting - The Tea Partiers have their own playbook on how to hi-jack open forums like town-hall meetings. Could the fact that these tactics are twarted by using the type of meeting Elk Konnected has used be the reason Ross and Patriot and others are so pissed off about things like the Delphi Technique and processes that lead to decisions made by consensus, and not decisions made by the tyranny of the most vocal.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/08/memo-details-co-ordinated-anti-reform-harrassment-strategy.php?page=1
Why thank you Flintauqua I really appreciate the fact that you recognize that the organization does not actually have Community Conversations or Town Hall Meeting that is so gracious of you. It totally establishes the fact that they are a totally controlled meeting. With the circle of chairs, kindergarten colored stars on name tags, not permitted to sit with your loved ones or close friends (because you can not be trusted), and only permitted to talk about what you are told to talk about. My guess is there is a facilitator in each circle to insure all orders are followed to a "T". Isn't that right?
Sir, (and I use the term loosely) I did not attend a meeting to disrupt it. It was billed in big bold letters in the newspaper as a Community Conversation and since you pointed out that it was not, I feel I was mislead. However, when I asked the man the man from Wichita County that was facilitating our Elk County meeting to talk with him, that is to have a conversation he said, "outside" and pointed his finger indicating outside. When I asked him, "Why not in front of the community he lifted his microphone to his mouth and softly said, "Where is the sheriff". At that point I simply said, "I thought this was a Community Conversation", and I started walking towards the exit. I did not create any kind of a ruckus. I met the sheriff's deputies when I had nearly reached the exit. The deputies were very well behaved and conducted themselves as gentlemen. So anyway, why was the man from Wichita County afraid of having a conversation in front of the community? What really bothers them about having a real Conversation? You appear to be the expert on Elk Konnected so please enlighten all of us?
So it appears to me there are a couple of rules I didn't know about. So as the Elk Konnected expert I need you to clarify them for me please?
All citizens must agree with Elk Konnected on all points and sit in their circle of chairs or they are considered trouble makers and the sheriff's deputies will be called, is that right? I ask you as the expert on Elk Konnected?
Is "Freedom of Speech" not allowed at the so called Community Conversations be another rule of the organization? Again, I ask you as the expert on Elk Konnected?
Are you an owner or admitted member of Elk Konnected? This is a very important question, would you please answer it and the other questions above if you have the intellect to do so?
Thank You.
P. S. You confuse me and the situation by continually changing threads, would you please help out an old man and stay on one thread, please? Unless of course that is your intent.
I'm going to carry this over to the Topic: Elk County Hand Out At Commissioners Meeting on 4/25 http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php/topic,11780.0.html
Let me furnish a reasonable answer to that question, "why not in front of the crowd"? As you said, the meeting was organized, it was being prepared in the manner that had been planned. People were finding their places at the tables and all was going smoothly. Why, at this point, would a facilitator take the time to disrupt the meeting to talk to someone that was not becoming one of the crowd? Why couldn't it have been taken outside while the rest of the group continued in an orderly fashion to get in place to start the meeting? Instead of waiting until the facilitator had a moment to accompany you outside and talk to you about your concerns, you chose to leave the meeting. Any conversation, other than what was needed to get people settled, would have been a disruption which would have delayed the meeting. Were your concerns of such magnitude that they couldn't wait a few minutes until the facilitator was free? If the facilitator felt he needed to refer you to the sheriff, then you must have done or said something that caused him to think that you were a disruptive presence and the easiest way to take care of it was to ask for you to be escorted out. I can see it.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
Let me furnish a reasonable answer to that question, "why not in front of the crowd"? As you said, the meeting was organized, it was being prepared in the manner that had been planned.
You have no reasonable answers You were not there. Why bill it as a Community Conversation in the newspaper if that is not the intention. I don't call seating people in circles of chairs, with little kindergarten stars on name tags so you can separate them by their colored star a Community Conversation. They separated husband and wives and family members and close friends? Why, because they can not be trusted to have a conversation. B.S. It was all for control, simple. If we can have them ply musical chairs they will do anything else we ask. No problem-o. Control.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
People were find in their places at the tables and all was going smoothly.
You were not there, there were no tables, just circles of chairs. And everything was going smoothly, they herded the people around like cattle in a stock pen. They performed every order they were given. There was no Community Conversation. There were circles of chairs with a facilitator from Washington County giving orders and most likely a facilitator in each circle to help control the situations, who knows.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
Why, at this point, would a facilitator take the time to disrupt the meeting to talk to someone that was not becoming one of the crowd? Why couldn't it have been taken outside while the rest of the group continued in an orderly fashion to get in place to start the meeting?
There was no disruption for a Community Conversation. Not becoming one of the crowd you say? That's exactly what they want because a crowd is easier to control than an individual. Then you have mob mentality and can be controlled with peer group pressure. You just don't take Community Conversations outside, then the Community is not part of the Conversation. Don't you get what a Community Conversation is? It's everyone discussing and everyone hearing not a bunch of circles of chairs.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
Let me furnish a reasonable answer to that question, "why not in front of the crowd"? As you said, the meeting was organized, it was being prepared in the manner that had been planned.
It was published on the Front Page of the newspaper as a Community Conversation, they lied right?
What was he afraid of? Answering a few questions? Was it the handful of papers I had in my hand?
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PM
Instead of waiting until the facilitator had a moment to accompany you outside and talk to you about your concerns, you chose to leave the meeting.
There you are wanting to take a Community Conversation outside and leaving everyone behind. Well, then it sure wouldn't be a community Conversation then would it? What did they man have to Hide? What was he afraid of tell the whole Community that he would tell me? Well at least 140 some of the community.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 02:29:44 PMIf the facilitator felt he needed to refer you to the sheriff, then you must have done or said something that caused him to think that you were a disruptive presence and the easiest way to take care of it was to ask for you to be escorted out. I can see it.
He was afraid to talk with me that's all. And he did not refer me to the sheriff. When I asked to speak with him I repeat he said outside, I simply asked why not in the Community Conversation in front of the Community. That's when he raised his microphone to his mouth and softly asked, "Where is the sheriff?"
And a gain I was not escorted out, I politely left on my own.
Just your opinion, isn't it?
So, Ross . . . call your own meeting and run it your way. :D
Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 19, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
So, Ross . . . call your own meeting and run it your way. :D
That's not what the conversation was about. The conversation was about the Commuity Conversation, try to focus. should we call in the facilitator?
But since you broached the subject.
If I ran a meeting I wouldn't treat adults like children in a sandbox.
Quote from: Wilma on July 19, 2011, 04:23:54 PM
Just your opinion, isn't it?
Yes, ma'am with quite a few facts.
I assume you don't like facts.
Who steers the steering committee?
Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected?
Who is their Leader?
Still just your opinion.
Uh Wilma, to quote Forrest Gump---I'm-not-a-smart-man------ but I know there's a difference between facts and opinion---or am I wrong ?
Quote from: Ross on July 19, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
But since you broached the subject.
If I ran a meeting I wouldn't treat adults like children in a sandbox.
But you have no problem using people as your little "toys" for your amusement on this forum. Oh, excuse me, that's just my opinion....
Lisa
Dude, game over!
Quote from: farmgal67357 on July 19, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
But you have no problem using people as your little "toys" for your amusement on this forum. Oh, excuse me, that's just my opinion....
Lisa
Dude, game over!
An opinion based on an assumption that may not be based in fact maybe?
Quote from: Patriot on July 19, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
An opinion based on an assumption that may not be based in fact maybe?
Nope. I've read Ross' posts. I've drawn my own conclusions. No one needs to agree with me. Like I said, just my opinion.
Lisa
Quote from: farmgal67357 on July 19, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
But you have no problem using people as your little "toys" for your amusement on this forum. Oh, excuse me, that's just my opinion....
Lisa
Dude, game over!
I do believe this is our first communication and its' starting out on th wrong foot, don't you think?
But moving on.
Flintauqua was sneaky enough to start this thread and adding my name to it.
Instead of staying with the "Elk County Hand Out At Commissioners Meeting on 4/25" thread,
to bad mouth me. He chose to start this thread.
Probably thinking I would not see it. An attempt in my opinion of backstabbing.
And it failed tremendously as backstabbing usually does.
Flintauqua played the card, "Topic:
Ross' kind of Control and Manipulation".
I agree with you, if you want to be toyed with, I will try to accomodate you!
But, I only toy with those that want to be toyed with.
And apparently you enjoy being toyed with, as this remark you just made implies.
Your choice, my choice, their choice!
However, I don't like the game I just play when the card is played, thank you for playing the card.
I agree with you to a point, except Game Not Over, if you choose to continue to play.
My opinion, your opinion, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if it may be wrong.
But hey, while here do you know;
Who steers the steering committee?
Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected?
Who is their Leader?
Quote from: Ross on July 19, 2011, 07:05:19 PM
That's not what the conversation was about. The conversation was about the Commuity Conversation, try to focus. should we call in the facilitator?
But since you broached the subject.
If I ran a meeting I wouldn't treat adults like children in a sandbox.
Ah, but Ross, that is part of the discussion. You have mentioned several times you didn't like how the Community Conversation was run. You feel you didn't get a fair shake. Call your own meeting and/or conversation. Name it what you will, run it your way, discuss the topics you wish discussed in the manner you prefer. Formally present the resulting recommendations to the County Commission. :D
Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 20, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
Ah, but Ross, that is part of the discussion. You have mentioned several times you didn't like how the Community Conversation was run. You feel you didn't get a fair shake. Call your own meeting and/or conversation. Name it what you will, run it your way, discuss the topics you wish discussed in the manner you prefer. Formally present the resulting recommendations to the County Commission. :D
I feel they misrepresented what the so called meeting was. It definitly was not a community conversation.
It was a totally orchastrated circus. And no one knows if theur suggestions were ever heard. Little notes were made and nobdy saw the results. There are no recorsds, no proof that anything that took [lace was even included in the list presented to the County commissioner. Where are the records of who suggested what. My guess since there were no names the slips of paper are in the trash. And you think that is legit?
How come you don't know the answers to the following:
Who steers the steering committee?
Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected?
Who is their Leader?
Quote from: Mom70x7 on July 20, 2011, 07:12:45 AM
Ah, but Ross, that is part of the discussion. You have mentioned several times you didn't like how the Community Conversation was run. You feel you didn't get a fair shake. Call your own meeting and/or conversation. Name it what you will, run it your way, discuss the topics you wish discussed in the manner you prefer. Formally present the resulting recommendations to the County Commission. :D
While he's at it, do you suppose he could get the economic development director to apply for a grant to help with his operation? Or get the county or city governments here to help fund him with local tax dollars? Maybe he could get the Prairie Star to print a few two column x 4 inch articles touting the good he hopes will result from his efforts to inform the public of the need restore sound & transparent government management. Or maybe one of the commissioners will tout his efforts by joining with him and describing his efforts using the pronoun "we" during county commission meetings. Of course, he needs to decide if he should form an LLC to shield his and his supporter's identities & personal assets first, no?
Elk Konnected, LLC has used these resources.
At least he won't need to pay a professional facilitator trained in group dynamics & the application of Hegelian Principles to run his meetings for him.
Did you see all of what was presented? How do you know that the county commissioners do not know everything that was suggested that evening? After all, they don't have to abide by the results of the meeting. And why do the commissioners or anyone else need to know just who wrote down what? They can still do what they think is the best for the county. I just don't see why you have your Hanes in a bind over something that the commissioners can just disregard if they wish.
Quote from: Wilma on July 20, 2011, 07:41:14 AM
I just don't see why you have your Hanes in a bind over something that the commissioners can just disregard if they wish.
Didn't we address your mens underwear fetish some weeks back, Wilma?
You don't wear Hanes? Maybe Fruit of the Loom? Since I don't buy men's underwear anymore, I really don't know what is available. What do you wear, if any?
Quote from: Wilma on July 20, 2011, 07:48:07 AM
You don't wear Hanes? Maybe Fruit of the Loom? Since I don't buy men's underwear anymore, I really don't know what is available. What do you wear, if any?
Wow. Time to take a break dear. Maybe a nice ride on the senior transportation service bus for a day in WalMart's clothing department would help. ;D
Quote from: Wilma on July 20, 2011, 07:41:14 AM
Did you see all of what was presented? How do you know that the county commissioners do not know everything that was suggested that evening? After all, they don't have to abide by the results of the meeting. And why do the commissioners or anyone else need to know just who wrote down what? They can still do what they think is the best for the county. I just don't see why you have your Hanes in a bind over something that the commissioners can just disregard if they wish.
Apparently you believe everything Elk Konnected tells you, and that's okay with me.
Yet, they won't tell you who their admitted members are, or who owns Elk Konnected.
They won't even tell you if Elk Konnected and Elk Konnected,LLC are one and the same or two seperate entities.
So what do we or you know about them? Nothing!
Except they play in our County Government.
I guess you ass/ume everything is okay and let it go at that, right?
But as I understand it, Elk Konnected was requested by the County Commissioners to hold that circus called a meeting.
No, I don't have proof of that. But, the Commissioner4s were at the meeting and then the list was presented to them at a County Commissioners meeting?
Who steers the steering committee?
Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected?
Who is their Leader?
Quote from: Ross on July 20, 2011, 08:04:22 AM
But as I understand it, Elk Konnected was requested by the County Commissioners to hold that circus called a meeting.
No, I don't have proof of that. But, the Commissioner4s were at the meeting and then the list was presented to them at a County Commissioners meeting?
From the Public Square Communities, LLC website as reproduced from an article by Rudy Taylor, Prairie Star:
(http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/news.php (http://www.publicsquarecommunities.com/community/elk/news.php))
"
...Commissioners Liz Hendricks, Ken Liebau and Doug Ritz then called for public input to determine how those PILOT funds would be spent. That's why the Elk Konnected organization called Tuesday's meeting... At the end of the evening, each circle was asked for a spokesperson to serve on an action team to compile the data gathered at the community conversation and report to the Elk County Commissioners by their April 11 meeting, if possible..."
Elk Konnected was sure Johnny on the Spot to do the commission's leg work...
Of course, one commissioner is a spokesperson/primary contact/steering committee member with Elk Konnected and another is a self described supporter, cheerleader and repeated financial contributor to the organization. The county Economic Development Director is also an EK steering committee member.
So where does Elk county government end and Elk Konnected begin? Darned if I can tell.
Quote from: Ross on July 20, 2011, 06:28:45 AM
I do believe this is our first communication and its' starting out on th wrong foot, don't you think?
Lisa says: Nope.
But moving on.
Flintauqua was sneaky enough to start this thread and adding my name to it.
Instead of staying with the "Elk County Hand Out At Commissioners Meeting on 4/25" thread,
to bad mouth me. He chose to start this thread.
Probably thinking I would not see it. An attempt in my opinion of backstabbing.
And it failed tremendously as backstabbing usually does.
Flintauqua played the card, "Topic: Ross' kind of Control and Manipulation".
Lisa says: Yep.
I agree with you, if you want to be toyed with, I will try to accomodate you!
But, I only toy with those that want to be toyed with.
And apparently you enjoy being toyed with, as this remark you just made implies.
Your choice, my choice, their choice!
However, I don't like the game I just play when the card is played, thank you for playing the card.
I agree with you to a point, except Game Not Over, if you choose to continue to play.
Lisa says: Well there ya go folks. It's YOUR fault you are being toyed with! You apparently LIKE it. I was hoping that you folks would see that when you answer his questions, it makes no difference. You will never answer his questions. He enjoys getting under people's skin. There is a saying, "Don't feed the Troll". This one is WAY over due for a diet.
My opinion, your opinion, everyone is entitled to an opinion even if it may be wrong.
Lisa says: Yep.
But hey, while here do you know;
Who steers the steering committee?
Who are the admitted members who own, and run,
Elk Konnected?
Who is their Leader?
Lisa says: Nope. And you don't really care. If you did you would quit pestering us and go ask someone who just might know. But that's not really your goal.......just my opinion.
Watch out Lisa....now they are gonna start callin you dear, pattin you on the head and treatin you like a mentally defective female who just doesnt understand the workings of "men" LOL
That's funny, because most of the men I know don't feel the need to behave that way. So, it's WAAAAYYYY beyond just being a "man" thing! ;)
Lisa
Lisa says: Nope. And you don't really care. If you did you would quit pestering us and go ask someone who just might know. But that's not really your goal.......just my opinion
Again I ask---why in hell would people keep reading threads that 'pester" them or what not ? I see there are threads about roses and hummingbirds (they taste like chicken, by the way) but I don't read them because I have no interest in them but you don't see me saying Wilma is as crazy as a pet coon just because she likes such things-------------oh, and that's just my opinion.
Mrs. C, Lisa, Diane, Wilma, Janet, Flint, Jefe, Ready, Larry and anyone other comparitively sane, moderate, civil individual...The only way to kill this thread...And eliminate all this falteral...Is if we quit posting on this and just go away to enjoy the other boards/threads where these two to three individuals aren't allowed to absolutely dominate in the manner they're been allowed to here. These yahoos keep posting the same thing, over and over and over again. They're just burning rubber off of tires that lost their treads many pages ago.
Quote from: thatsMRSc2u on July 20, 2011, 10:33:35 AM
..like a mentally defective female...
Not so sure gender has anything to do with anything.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 20, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
Mrs. C, Lisa, Diane, Wilma, Janet, Flint, Jefe, Ready, Larry and anyone other comparitively sane, moderate, civil individual...The only way to kill this thread...And eliminate all this falteral...Is if we quit posting on this and just go away to enjoy the other boards/threads where these two to three individuals aren't allowed to absolutely dominate in the manner they're been allowed to here. These yahoos keep posting the same thing, over and over and over again. They're just burning rubber off of tires that lost their treads many pages ago.
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Cat, you hit the nail right on the head. I don't mind a civil discussion between folks who may disagree about things. Everybody is different and has their own views. But some don't want to discuss, even though that is what they want us to believe. So I invoke my right to use my ignore button. Maybe it will become a trend! ;D
Lisa
We can only hope, Lisa. This idiocy has been allowed to go on for far too long.
Quote from: jarhead on July 20, 2011, 10:40:23 AM
Lisa says: Nope. And you don't really care. If you did you would quit pestering us and go ask someone who just might know. But that's not really your goal.......just my opinion
Again I ask---why in hell would people keep reading threads that 'pester" them or what not ? I see there are threads about roses and hummingbirds (they taste like chicken, by the way) but I don't read them because I have no interest in them but you don't see me saying Wilma is as crazy as a pet coon just because she likes such things-------------oh, and that's just my opinion.
Jar.....I read it for entertainment and the off chance I MIGHT learn somethin. I like seeing people stand up and a lot of people are. Lisa is right about answers not being what they are really after tho.....they are enjoyin stirrin the turds just as much as anybody who answers them....me included :) I get bored LOL and sometimes they DO torque me off and I smart off at em
Cat....that is true :) but then I would have to find another way to relieve my stress LOL I like the smell of burnin rubber.... ;D
Lisa.......the men I know dont feel that way either! Think these two have just discovered that is a way to piss people off LOL
Go for it, Mrs. C... ;D ;D...None of these rightwing loonies have got it over on you yet! lol
Quote from: farmgal67357 on July 20, 2011, 10:13:52 AM
farmgal67357 If you click the little button called QUOTE in the upper right hand corner of the post you are wanting to respond to you will then get a page that looks like this. Only in the center of the above area there will be the persons words. However in this case because you wrote with in the quote there are no words.
the next thing to do is copy and paste the quote lines.
Example leaving off the little [ ] , of course you want to lleave them in the line or it won't work,
quote author=farmgal67357 link=topic=12235.msg169039#msg169039 date=1311178432
/quote
Then you can copy and paste the persons words that you want to quote between the lines.
You right click and drag your cursor across the area you want to copy, then place the cursor over the shaded area and right click again and click on copy. Then move the cursor to the area where you want to put the words and right click again and click on paste.
I hope that helps.
Quote from: farmgal67357 on July 20, 2011, 10:13:52 AM
Lisa says: Nope. And you don't really care. If you did you would quit pestering us and go ask someone who just might know. But that's not really your goal.......just my opinion.
I am not pestering you, I don't force you to read anything, nothing, nada. Therefore you must be pestering yourself.
You have full control. I do not control your computer or your internet, and would not if I could.
All you have to do is click on the following for any thread when you recieve it in your e-mail.
Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: http://www.cascity.com/howard/forum/index.php?action=notify;topic=OOOOO.0Totally your choice.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 20, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
Mrs. C, Lisa, Diane, Wilma, Janet, Flint, Jefe, Ready, Larry and anyone other comparitively sane, moderate, civil individual...The only way to kill this thread...And eliminate all this falteral...Is if we quit posting on this and just go away to enjoy the other boards/threads where these two to three individuals aren't allowed to absolutely dominate in the manner they're been allowed to here. These yahoos keep posting the same thing, over and over and over again. They're just burning rubber off of tires that lost their treads many pages ago.
I agree Catwoman all people that can not handle a conversation should follow your advice. Especially the guys you mentioned they should definitly listen to you. You go girl.
Quote from: thatsMRSc2u on July 20, 2011, 10:33:35 AM
Watch out Lisa....now they are gonna start callin you dear, pattin you on the head and treatin you like a mentally defective female who just doesnt understand the workings of "men" LOL
Words of endearment are now sexist and words like bitch aren't. That's very interesting.
And I believe you are the first to use words like, "mentally defective female" heck i didn't even type those words. I simply copied and pasted them.
Quote from: farmgal67357 on July 20, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
That's funny, because most of the men I know don't feel the need to behave that way. So, it's WAAAAYYYY beyond just being a "man" thing! ;)
Lisa
Wow. I don't see any men acting that way on here. Just you girls making it up. Read the quote above this one.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 20, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
l...The only way to kill this thread...
Speaking of motives and agendas. Yes cat, giving folks your instructions is surely the solution. Try to control their behavior. Tell them not to watch the train wreck while saying that it is they who help perpetuate the carnage that you perceive. Then again, maybe their sane, moderate nature is what keeps them engaged. Maybe not. But I prefer Teresa's general approach:
Let individuals be who they are, say what they wish, resisting outside demands to shut up or kill it, and let the chips fall where they may.What do you
really fear? Is it that at some point the factual answers will appear... and will turn out to be a
real train wreck? Or that it may be your folly that outside readers are silently judging?
QuoteWords of endearment are now sexist and words like bitch aren't. That's very interesting.
LOLOL DEAR the way YOU two are usin it is NOT a term of endearment it is a polite way of sayin bitch LOLOL and everybody knows it!
QuoteAnd I believe you are the first to use words like, "mentally defective female" heck i didn't even type those words. I simply copied and pasted them.
OMG LOLOLOLOL
QuoteWow. I don't see any men acting that way on here. Just you girls making it up. Read the quote above this one.
oh don't worry your pretty head about it dear.......just go take a nap and maybe it'll be better (oh yeah, heres your little pat on the arm for sympathy for your confusion)
Much as I'm enjoyin this I got things to do ;D yall have a nice day now
Ain't this some real hick, redneck, hillbilly fun.
Do I get to have control, yet?
Dog gone it, I am never in control!
I'm just an out of control old fart, enjoying life to the fullest.
Ya'll kin have control, ladies. Tell the men not to come back here.
They's real men and will follw your orders er instructions er desires or whatever you call it.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 20, 2011, 11:00:59 AM
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Having trouble taking your own advice? Or is it that ADD thing acting up?
I think he found his way to Ross and Patriot's and took a whizz in their Wheaties.
Quote from: Ross on July 20, 2011, 08:04:22 AM
Apparently you believe everything Elk Konnected tells you, and that's okay with me.
Mother doesn't believe everything that Elk Konnected tells her because she has never been to an Elk Konnected meeting. So, how can she believe or disbelieve anything that Elk Konnected writes or says or presents?
Quote from: Janet Harrington on July 20, 2011, 03:47:57 PM
Mother doesn't believe everything that Elk Konnected tells her because she has never been to an Elk Konnected meeting. So, how can she believe or disbelieve anything that Elk Konnected writes or says or presents?
Why all the fuss from her then?
Why get so upset about what she doesn't know?
I don't mean to be disrespectful to your mother.
Really, I think I would probably like her if I met her in person.
Wilma, where I come from, that's not a redneck...That's just a good ol' boy... ;D ;D Rednecks are unable to be reasoned with...But a good ol' boy will just calmly handle what comes without havin' to have a hissy over it. Give me a good ol' boy any day!
Wow! I spent ten minutes catching up on this thread!
And, there you go, Cat, putting me in such an esteemed group as you did, but I do take offense at the word "sane." I have been trying for years to get my friends and family to have me committed, you know, free food, free bed and someone to look after me 24/7. You go throwing that "sane" word around in my direction and I will never get there.
And, Wilma, you are talking family, now, and someone to be proud of. I can say I am proud to be related to the best bunch of rednecks around.
And, reading the rest of this thread, Cat, you are correct in saying that some things should just be ignored. If you don't like it , don't read it. That's why---------------------I am.............
Larryj (why the hell am I posting in politics)
Cat, he was good at finishing what I started.