Casey Anthony was found not guilty of anything more than misleading policemen???????? OMG...This is OJ Simpson revisited.
My sentiments, exactly! Good heavens!
I am watching Casey Anthony smiling...The look on her face says obviously that she got away with it and can't believe it. There was no justice done today. Is giving false information to a police officer a felony or just a misdemeanor? The group of counts, 4-7, all dealt with the issue that she was guilty of giving false information to the police. I do know she was fingerprinted for being found guilty on those four counts.
I would have had to vote for aquittal too. There was nothing but circumstantial evidence. Secondly the prosecution couldn't even come up with a cause of death. THey had a theory but no proof. Third, The two sides behaved absolutely horrible and I don't know why the judge didn't throw the case out. They were in contempt of court i don't know how many times!
Justice was really served. THere was far too much reasonable doubt on the murder charges. The lying ok she got nailed on that. There was no doubt. Good! IT is only a misdemeanor. 1 year sentences are misdemeanors.
Sorry Steve,.. She's a lying little slut who had a whole lot to do with her daughters murder.. Can you actually name me ONE good mother who would wait even 2 hours before panicking and reporting her child missing?
Cayle went missing on June 9, 2008....however was not reported missing by her""adoring mother"... >:( until July 16, 2008.?? Seriously???
The little lying psychopath can party now all she wants without the encumbrances of a child.
I hope the people who got her off get a share of Karma that will bite them so hard in the ass they won't be able to move for a century..
Quote from: Teresa on July 05, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
Sorry Steve,.. She's a lying little slut who had a whole lot to do with her daughters murder.. Can you actually name me ONE good mother who would wait even 2 hours before panicking and reporting her child missing?
Cayle went missing on June 9, 2008....however was not reported missing by her""adoring mother"... >:( until July 16, 2008.?? Seriously???
The little lying psychopath can party now all she wants without the encumbrances of a child.
I hope the people who got her off get a share of Karma that will bite them so hard in the ass they won't be able to move for a century..
That might be true. But without the evidence, there is no conviction or shouldn't be a conviction. Reasonable doubt is a two edged sword. It protects us and can protect the guilty too. BUT i wouldn't trade it for any other kind of justice! She is screwed up but the prosecution did not do its job, nor did the detectives. Sometimes you gotta let the guilty go to make sure the innocent have the same benefit of reasonable doubt.
Y'all got to remember, if she is guilty, it will come back to bite her. Remember OJ? Guess what he got cocky and is in prison now.
She may be guilty but they never proved it. The jury had to go with not guilty because of the evidence they were given. Her attorneys did a better job. I watched the closing statement from the prosecution and I would have let her myself. :P
Quote from: Jane on July 05, 2011, 05:09:15 PM
She may be guilty but they never proved it. The jury had to go with not guilty because of the evidence they were given. Her attorneys did a better job. I watched the closing statement from the prosecution and I would have let her myself. :P
The prosecution didn't even prove it by the preponderance of the evidence which is a lower standard used in civil suits. Reasonable doubt is the highest standard to which Thank God it has to be proven beyond. AND even by that standard MANY mistakes are made and MANY innocent get executed.
We all think she did it !!! .But if Iwas on the jury would have to go the same way, but would of broke my heart. Some day we will watch a hearing for some nutcase killing her for it.
The jury doesnt see all that goes on in court when they leave room
Quote from: oldfart on July 05, 2011, 05:41:07 PM
The jury doesnt see all that goes on in court when they leave room
And thats a good thing. They did their job. Based their decision on the facts of the evidence, not on the emotions.
The lying little bitch killed her, plain and simple. This not guilty verdict is killing me. That poor little baby girl was murdered so Casey "the slut" Anthony could go party. That little baby girl was missing 31 days. Those 31 days were filled with nothing but LIES by her "mother" while she was out partying and doing hot body contests. Oh but the imaginary nanny had her and she was having so much fun with the other kids while "I was working at Universal Studios. Oh, never mind, I don't work here. Then, the NANNY kidnapped her so I've been searching for her for the past month!" MY ASS! Partying it up doing pole dances and body shots while your baby is lying dead in a swamp. If I was her parents and she even came anywhere NEAR me, I would have her arrested. All of the lies she told about her family while she was trying to get out of her murder charges...Also, after almost 3 years of this bullshit, you're going to tell me that those 12 people didn't know anything about what was going on??? Her trial should've been held out of state, not right there where people KNEW what was going on.
Teresa, I agree 100% with you. To me, all of the lies added up. The State gave enough credible evidence to put the bitch six feet under. Karma's a bitch! She should be sterilized so that she can NEVER again bring another child into this world, just so she can kill another one!---Jen
With her mindset, I doubt she will (remember) or replay if anything she did was wrong in a short time. It will be just 'another day, like that day in court then'.
I really dread the day when/if she gets help and actually has an understanding of the events. The individual conscious will take it's toll, if she has any.
Was she legally declared competent? Between her and the roomate trial, now I am getting confused!
Plus, I am not so sure the State rushed in building it's case. They only had circumstantial evidence...which is weak for a Murder trial
and for the record:
I agree with both Teresa and Steve.
Guilty? yes. Prove it? try. The state failed.
"Beyond a Reasonable Doubt"
The term connotes that evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.
Someone forgot to explain this to the jury.
WE WANT "CAYLEE'S LAW": If a person is involved in the cover up of a death of any kind, including accidental, and this cover up can be proven by the state, it will be an automatic First Degree Murder charge without exception. All deaths that are not properly reported along with an attempted cover up, proven in a court of law will be punishable by death or a life without the possibility of parole. If we can get enough people to sign it, we can take it before the state representative's of Florida and even before Congress in Washington, so please sign!
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/Cayleeslaw
"proof of such a convincing character that a reasonable person would not hesitate to rely and act upon it in the most important of his own affairs."
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/reasonable-doubt#ixzz1RHtOfBTh
and, they had RESONABLE DOUBT that she did it. Thta's why they couldn't convict her.
She lived in a fantasy land, lied and I think her child drowned accidentally, but she panicked, which shows not a very good thought process.
It is an interpretation of the law, and I do believe the judge made a comment about his reaction was neither for or against the verdict, meaning in my mind he was wondering.
Don't like the interpretation of the law....then okay change it.
And that is exactly what she did: covered it up by lying, impedeing and investigation....
Sadly, I must agree with the verdicts. The state did a bang up job of proving she's a liar, and the jury convicted on that. Had the state put as much effort into proving murder, or even manslaughter, there might have been a conviction there too. If you want to fault someone here, fault the state. They're the ones who screwed this up. I think the jury did an admirable job of upholding their oath. It's the government who fouled up. While I think she's guilty as sin, there simply was not enough factual evidence for the jury to find guilt in every element of the critical charges.
Proves another point clearly, however.... government can screw up most anything, from the process of boiling water to proving the obvious in a murder case!
Quote from: Catwoman on July 05, 2011, 12:28:40 PM
Casey Anthony was found not guilty of anything more than misleading policemen???????? OMG...This is OJ Simpson revisited.
It won't be too long before someone takes her out. Pray to God she doesn't get pregnant again! This whole thing just makes me sick. But, there was reasonable doubt. The prosecution didn't have a strong enough case. And you can't convict someone on "emotions". One day she will have her turn at judgement, just like the rest of us.......
Lisa
And her child will be in heaven watching her go to trial' fortuneately the God, of Higher Power doesn't need a jury or peers or otherwise!
Now that to me, un-sacreligious as it may seem: is Justice brought forth!
Quote from: kshillbillys on July 05, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
"Beyond a Reasonable Doubt"
The term connotes that evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.
Someone forgot to explain this to the jury.
Look, your thinking with the emotional aspect. The jury full well understood reasonable doubt. I hate it but the state could not and did not prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. YOu were watching the events on tv. THEY weren't. They were ONLY presented with the facts nothing else.
Was misleading the police a misdemeanor or a felony? What judgement will she face on that conviction?
Quote from: Catwoman on July 05, 2011, 10:05:07 PM
Was misleading the police a misdemeanor or a felony? What judgement will she face on that conviction?
In a murder investigation, probably a felony. But the news pundits think she'll be released Thursday with time served (about 3 years, to date).
OMG. >:( I hadn't heard that...
yeah she gets credit for time served.
The might set her free, but she can't go anywhere. EVERYONE knows who she is. Let's see her go out and party now!
Lisa
Quote from: Patriot on July 05, 2011, 10:22:40 PM
In a murder investigation, probably a felony. But the news pundits think she'll be released Thursday with time served (about 3 years, to date).
Actually Patriot, in the state of Florida it is a misdemeanor. She was convicted of four counts in the first degree of lying to investigators and could receive up to
a year in jail for each count when Judge Perry sentences her Thursday. But she's likely will get credit for spending much of the past three years in jail waiting for trial, so it's possible she could be released by the end of the week.... or the judge could sentence her to 9 plus months to a year and a possible fine of $1,000 per offense. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Too bad the prosecution didn't try for Manslaughter by Act (Committing an act that was neither excusable, nor justified that resulted in the death of another person). The crime of manslaughter is classified as a second degree felony. If convicted of manslaughter, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 9ΒΌ years and up to a max of 15 years and a $10,000 fine. The lazy ass jury might have gone for manslaughter had not the prosecution pushed for murder one with the death penalty. I guess we'll never know the answer to that. Sad.
So it was all or nothing? murder one or "innocent?" That sure didn't leave any wiggle room for the prosecution did it? Not very smart on their part. Aren't there still more charges pending? What happened to the accidental drowning scenario? I've not followed this case very closely, but it was certainly emotionally charged. I'm glad I wasn't on the jury. There are still things about the facts and circumstances that don't make sense to me. But given the charge to the jury, I'm not sure they could have done any differently. I wonder what the grandparents think now.
I can't even imagine being the grandparent of that child...Or the parent of the woman accused...In this case. I don't think you can ever live long enough in this life to outrun what this has been.
Isn't there some law about the disposal of a corpse? Of course she says her Dad disposed for the body if I remember right. I'd rather be in jail that shut up in that house with her parents after all that has been said.
A few things are certain. That dear little girl died. Somebody moved the child's body at some point, immediately or much later, from somewhere and buried it without ever telling the proper authorities. If it was accidental....how and where? It had to have been some way that left no marks on the bones or skull. Was the grandfather somehow involved? Did he know and tell the daughter to keep quiet? If so why? If it was truly an accident it's terrible, but probably not chargeable. Or perhaps in Florida it is. Did she /they really think nobody would ever notice the child had vanished? The mother had to be a real screwball regardless. I feel sorry for the grandmother.
She is saying now, that she can see herself being pregnant or adopting a baby because "there are so many little babies and children out there that need love!" I SCREAMED when I heard that. What about the baby girl she already KILLED! Did she not need love? OMG I am livid!
Mental illness takes some strange forms, Hillbilly... >:(...I am a firm believer in the fact that when you send evil out into the world, evil is visited upon you. There is a symmetry to this universe...And that woman will live long enough to experience that. I cannot see any adoption agency OK'ing any adoption by her...
Well, I can't imagine any man wanting to father her child, with the exception of maybe Jose Baez. I don't think any adoption agency would allow it either. It is just the thought that she said those words out loud. She makes me SICK!---Jen
Jen...I agree with you 100%... >:(...
Now the talk shows are saying that Casey Anthony could stand to make millions off of this...
There has got to be a special place in Hell for people like that...
And they wonder why none of the jury would agree to discuss the case after it was done.
Quote from: Catwoman on July 06, 2011, 05:38:07 PM
Now the talk shows are saying that Casey Anthony could stand to make millions off of this...
There has got to be a special place in Hell for people like that...
And they wonder why none of the jury would agree to discuss the case after it was done.
You do realize that actions on this earth do not dictate whether or not someone gets a special place in hell. There is only 1 action that sends you there. Secondly can't think of any greater punishment than a lake of fire.
A couple of people from the jury are talking now. She was found NOT GUILTY on lack of evidence...but they didn't find her INNOCENT!
Apparently there was nothing concrete to tie Casey to the death. Plus the jury was sequestered so they got no information save what was presented in court. Gut emotions don't count.
Quote from: kshillbillys on July 06, 2011, 06:21:31 PM
A couple of people from the jury are talking now. She was found NOT GUILTY on lack of evidence...but they didn't find her INNOCENT!
Hate to tell you, the court NEVER Finds a person Innocent EVER!
Quote from: Diane Amberg on July 06, 2011, 06:33:41 PM
Apparently there was nothing concrete to tie Casey to the death. Plus the jury was sequestered so they got no information save what was presented in court. Gut emotions don't count.
Sure wish all jurys were handled in this manner. Folks also might ought to read up on Jury Nullification. You won't be told about it when you go to serve on a jury. IN fact the judges are afraid of Jury Nullification.
yep, then there would have to be an overuling by another trial/submission to a higher court..
time/money and justice.....
1 year jail + $1,000 for each count minus time served.
ugh!, but at least it was the maximum!
I was not surprised to hear him say that...It will give everyone a chance to calm down before she's released. There has been a real outcry against her having been found not guilty.
Out July 13th.
Good Lord. >:(
I wouldn't be surprised if someone was waiting for her to get out with a gun in their hand...... That's how emotionally charged this case is. I think the case will be left open, after all there has been no one charged with little Caylee's murder! :'(
Lisa
That was exactly my thought...But didn't want to say it.
Me too, unless it really was accidental. But then who and how? I wonder if we'll ever know for sure. Kids die by accident often, but I've never known of one that had people who went to such complicated lengths to confuse the issue.
watched two forensic pathologists discussing the trial. They said that with the DA prosecuting her for 1st degree murder, there could be no other verdict but not guilty. The evidence was not there period. They could not prove it based on the evidence. Now if they prosecuted for negligent homicide, she would have been convicted.
I suspect it was a accidental drowning. But who knows why the elaborate coverup. Doesn't matter now. Just I don't think it was a murder. I think her lawyer was right, she may be a slut may be a party girl may be many things but shes not a murderer. Nothing added up to her being with any of the evidence presented.
Now we might all find out later on that she was, but for now, no one but her really knows, and quite frankly i doubt she even knows given her mental state.
Unles you look at her father!
Ms. Scumbag's release date has been moved to Sunday, July 17th. Not close enough to "life" or "death" for me but she's not out yet.
Thought this might need to be shared...It brought tears to my eyes...
Mine too Cat. Thanks for sharing that. She was just such a pretty little girl!---Jennifer
you know, this trial should've never been made public. that woman was convicted in the public eye long before her trial. thank god we don't convict people based on the emotional outcry from the public.
I don't think ANY of them should be televised. It's nothing but a distraction.
Lisa
Quote from: Varmit on July 15, 2011, 08:17:19 AM
you know, this trial should've never been made public. that woman was convicted in the public eye long before her trial. thank god we don't convict people based on the emotional outcry from the public.
The press wouldn't have even brought it to attention, if poor little Caylee had her spinal chord cut with a pair of scissors in a partial birth abortion.
I kind of like the way England does it. No press coverage until the trial is over.