When is the best time to spray Johnson grass?
Here is what a couple sites have to say.
http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf52474068.tip.html
http://www.inhs.illinois.edu/research/VMG/johngrass.html
It isn't now but the State Highway Department doesn't seem to know. The Johnson Grass has been headed out for a long time. They were spraying south of Moline yesterday and I couldn't believe it. I tried to find out a few years ago from state representative Peggy Long what they were spraying on the highway but never had a answer. Maybe Jeff King could tell us. An example of waste. Chautauqua county has been spraying the rural roads with an unusual pattern. They spray for several yards then stop and then spray again. Thanks for bringing it up Janet.
Janet, you might try getting some pigs, they like the roots and dig them out and eat them. ;D
Janet, cut it back, wait a few days until it is growing back and spray it with Roundup. I had Johnson Grass on this lot when we built the house anqd the first Spring I let it get up a foot or so tall and then sprayed it. Everytime some sprouted in other places I sprayed with Roundup, I haven't seen any Johnson Grass in 2 years.
Treating prior to seeding can't be overstated... Johnsongrass seed has been shown to remain dormant yet viable in soil for up to 10 years! Also, since it reproduces via rhizomes as well as seed, dont try to dig it out or you may end up with 3 or 4 plants where you had only one! Spray and spray again when new plants emerge.
A 5% solution of glyphosate (Round Up) works nicely. The Severy COOP has some concentrated (41 % Round Up generic) glyphosate called Mad Max for about $37 for 2.5 gallons. To make a 5% solution, mix 6.5 ounces of the concentrate in 1 gallon of water in your garden sprayer.
I rid the property I live on of it just by spraying with Round-up as soon as I recognized it. However, I get reseeded from the property around me, on both sides. One side doesn't spray at all and the other side waits until it goes to seed before they spray. I am talking about the property habited by the County Road Department. The Johnson grass is swaying merrily in the breeze now, spreading it's seed whichever direction the wind is blowing. I guess the road department doesn't know that it can be killed just as easily in the spring as late summer.
Here we go again!
Quote from: the shadow on August 05, 2010, 07:54:30 PM
Here we go again!
No, Shadow, it's not a "here we go again." It was a legitimate question and as for what Wilma has to say about her neighbors, it isn't her fault that one of her neighbors happen to be the county yard.
Has anyone ever stopped to wonder how the grass along the county yard, (outside the fence) gets mowed? Well, let me tell you. My husband mows it on the north side and one the east side. Mary Harrod contributes by mowing the east side when she is mowing her yards. She might even mow the south side of the county yard. So citizens are doing their part to make the neighborhood look good.
I think the neighbors to the county have a legitimate complaint when they are doing their best to keep their yards up, but then have johnson grass seed blowing everywhere that will then require more spraying by the neighbors. The county keeps up the court yard and the extension office yard. Why not the county road yard? Just saying.
Just wondering, Janet, did Wilma purchase her house and move in knowing the county yard was straight across the road from her? Or did the county come in there after she had purchased her land? We're are going to throw a fit about Johnson grass and the seeds blowing around. Next thing someone will be bitching about the smell of hog shit outside of town.
Lame excuse.
I bought this place in April before the Johnson grass was showing up. I was surprised to find Johnson grass on the east side of the house because I am sure Millie wouldn't have let it stay there. I got rid of that by spraying as soon as it was big enough, then spraying again when it showed enough regrowth. You can't get rid of it by spraying once a year after it goes to seed. Johnson grass is a noxious weed. Why should the county allow it to grow on property that it is responsible for? For that matter, why doesn't the county mow outside it's fences? Does the county mow anything inside the fences? I take that one back. It is hard to get a mower around everything that has to be stored there. The county sprays the road sides, doesn't it? Would it take that much more to spray the grass and weeds inside it's fences?
Wilma, they aren't spraying very many roads in Elk County. I realize that Roundup Spray is expensive, but the intersections are grown up and are very dangerous in places. Some of the roads have weeds growing up on both sides of the roads, until it is almost one lane. Most of the roads I am speaking of are mail routes and school buses routes. I know when we go to Mother's it really upsets me to see how things are. She is 92 and mows all along the road in front of her place, so it looks good. Dad fought Johnson Grass and bindweed faithfully as long as he was alive and able. She fights it as much as she can, just like you do.
I'm not wanting to start a fight, as I know the county as monetary problems, but the intersections are dangerous when they are so grown up. It makes me sad to see the weeds and Johnson Grass encroaching everywhere.
Myrna
something I learned during my years of employment at the Severy Co-op. Roundup is a "contact" killer. It does not kill the roots.
The Roundup today kills the roots. It is systemic. Enters through the leaves and goes to the roots. The leaves don't show dying until the roots start to die. I killed a patch of Johnson grass on the east side of the house after I moved here and Roundup is the only thing I use. I use it on poison ivy, too. Takes more than one spraying unless it is a new plant. I did some spraying this morning of crab grass and bermuda grass that is too close to where I don't want it. In a few days it will begin to die. I also sprayed some seedling trees, just to see what the Roundup would do.
Quote from: the shadow on August 09, 2010, 05:36:37 AM
Next thing someone will be bitching about the smell of hog shit outside of town.
uhmmmm .. in the spring and fall after a wonderful rain and the air is fresh and I want my windows open all the time?...but can't.. cause the whole town smells like hog shit?
Yep.. that would be me who you'll hear bitching.. :) Sorry... its just not my favorite air freshener... ;)..
I have to report this. This morning the road guys sprayed the grass and weeds in the county road yard. Not only that, but they chose a day that is absolutely quiet so that the spray wouldn't be carried and they sprayed from outside the fence so that the overspray went into the yard instead of out across the road to the neighbor's yards. Thank you, guys. Now if you could just do this before the Johnson grass goes to seed, we would all benefit. Maybe, eventually, there would be no Johnson grass in the neighborhood.
In regards to the johnson grass growing up and making blind intersections...this as been a problem for many, many years. I always worried about it on the school bus routes, but I don't know that the school bus drivers think it is a problem as they sit so high up. It is a problem for small cars for sure. You just have to be a defensive driver and be careful. I don't know what the county does for mowing these days. They may not do it anymore because of money. Since I'm not out on the county roads I don't know what goes on.
Since Shadow hides behind an alias on the forum, he/she is no longer worth my time for debating. Non-existent as far as I am concerned.
Wilma and all neighbors of the county yard,
The county commissioners would like to apologize for the profanity left in the ditch facing Wilma's yard. We do not have any idea who did this but would like to say we are sorry for the harm this has caused. If the sprayer is discovered, he or she will be punished. Again, please accept our apology.
Teresa,
If I had to bet I'd say instead of Jade East and Brute you prefer the smell of Composition B from a grenade or burnt gun powder !!!
Apology accepted, Liz.
And to whomever thought it was a good idea to leave their opinion across the street from me, I am sorry that your efforts were wasted. I didn't even see it until it was pointed out to me yesterday and then I couldn't read it. It just looked like dead grass to me. I have had impaired vision for almost a month now. Also, I can't see that spot from inside my house and when I do go out my front door, I am more concerned about not rolling down the front steps than I am in what might be across the street. Then I am concentrating on being able to stop at the end of the ramp and by that time my mind is on the flowers. I am sorry that it took so long for your efforts ro be appreciated. Was it something I said?
What I am disturbed about is that one of the sweetest people in the world was upset over it. She drives past here several times a day and she doesn't deserve to be offended like that.
Liz says that it will be hard to find who did the deed. Entry # 16 above tells you who was spraying in that area about a month ago. I am not making any accusations but someone should know who was running the county road sprayer that day.
Quote from: the shadow on August 09, 2010, 05:36:37 AM
Just wondering, Janet, did Wilma purchase her house and move in knowing the county yard was straight across the road from her? Or did the county come in there after she had purchased her land? We're are going to throw a fit about Johnson grass and the seeds blowing around. Next thing someone will be bitching about the smell of hog shit outside of town.
Truthfully isn't it irrelevant whether the Johnson grass was there when she purchased the home? It shouldn't be there, that's pretty simple.
Quote from: jarhead on September 13, 2010, 08:18:49 PM
Teresa,
If I had to bet I'd say instead of Jade East and Brute you prefer the smell of Composition B from a grenade or burnt gun powder !!!
I'd bet that it all depends on her mood!
Hell Sarge, you are too old to even remember Jade East !!!
I was wearing jade east way before you started to even think of shaving. Jade East , Cricket, English Leather and Canoe were the big ones back in my day, then Brut came on the scene shortly after.
Quote from: jerry wagner on September 13, 2010, 08:30:56 PM
Truthfully isn't it irrelevant whether the Johnson grass was there when she purchased the home? It shouldn't be there, that's pretty simple.
Thanks, Jerry. It is true about whether or not it was there when she moved there. It is a noxious weed. Here is the link to the list of Kansas noxious weed if anyone cares to see. Johnson grass is the last one on there.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/noxious?rptType=State&statefips=20 (http://plants.usda.gov/java/noxious?rptType=State&statefips=20)
I always liked the scent of English Leather and Brute. One time I complimented one of my patients for wearing Brute. From then on everytime he came in he wreaked of Brute. Never made that mistake again. Ha ha
Quote from: Wilma on September 13, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Apology accepted, Liz.
And to whomever thought it was a good idea to leave their opinion across the street from me, I am sorry that your efforts were wasted. I didn't even see it until it was pointed out to me yesterday and then I couldn't read it. It just looked like dead grass to me. I have had impaired vision for almost a month now. Also, I can't see that spot from inside my house and when I do go out my front door, I am more concerned about not rolling down the front steps than I am in what might be across the street. Then I am concentrating on being able to stop at the end of the ramp and by that time my mind is on the flowers. I am sorry that it took so long for your efforts ro be appreciated. Was it something I said?
What I am disturbed about is that one of the sweetest people in the world was upset over it. She drives past here several times a day and she doesn't deserve to be offended like that.
Liz says that it will be hard to find who did the deed. Entry # 16 above tells you who was spraying in that area about a month ago. I am not making any accusations but someone should know who was running the county road sprayer that day.
Any bozo with a sprayer could have put that there, not just the county guys.
Yeah. Okay. I am sure the county commissioners are taking that into thought.
Janet, I have no doubt that they are but wilmas "backdoor" accusation was low.
Varmit, maybe you can tell me why anyone would want to put something like that across the street from my front door? I live a very quiet life here, seldom go anywhere except to doctor appointments, mind my own business most of the time. What have I said or done that would make someone write that in the grass where I would be the most logical person to see it?
I don't know wilma. Maybe for the same reason that kids write graffiti on bathroom walls, their attempt at some stupid joke. Maybe some stupid kid was reading the forum and thought it would be funny to stir up some trouble...who knows? But without proof why imply it was a county employee?
If I were a county employee, I would be incensed that someone had done such a thing, especially something that was obviously aimed at an elderly citizen who happens to be wheelchair bound and lives directly across from where I worked. I would like to think that I was reared in a better manner; that I have respect not only for my elders, but for my employers. That I have respect not only for women but for myself. Sorry, but "Oh well, it could have been anyone", just isn't good enough! This kind of bullying doesn't float with me! Makes me really angry! Cowards! Cowards! Cowards! >:( >:( >:(
Because, Varmit, on Aug. 11 before 9:00 am, the road dept. spray truck was parked directly across the street from my front door. I thought only that they were finally spraying the grass and weeds in the fence line. Shortly after, I noticed that they were on the north side of the yard, spraying across the fence to reach the Johnson grass, which by that time was in full head. Most of the spray was being caught by the heads of seed. Incidentally, there is still live Johnson grass where they were so diligently spraying. Why wouldn't I think that they had left the message? Also, it was done by someone that is experienced in handling a sprayer as the letters were very well formed. So well formed in fact, that someone wondered if maybe they had a pattern.
It's a shame that your area has some very self absorbed, ill bred, poorly raised lowlifes who have nothing better to do than engage in very childish behavior. I wonder how they justify that kind of thing in their tiny little atrophied brains. Cowards is right!
Malicious behavior.
What are they getting from that kind of thing? Would they treat their own grandmothers that way? >:(
Truly malicious people don't care about the victim. The victim be anyone with any condition.
What does the malicious person get out of it? Feeling of power and control over the situation at hand. Satisfaction that they have hurt the victim. Like Varmit said, a feeling that they have stirred up trouble. The truly malicious person will have varying needs to satisfy his or her motivations depending on their personalities and past experiences. But they will consistently do the negative and mean behaviors.
In the case of hurting the victim, it failed completely as I never saw the message. All I saw was dead grass. I was told what it said. Too bad.
Varmit, I don't like thinking that any one of that caliber is working for the county, but the idea of a random act is rather far fetched, too. Wouldn't perps of random acts choose a more visible location instead of somewhere on the far side of town where only a few people would see it?