Come to America for a free lunch, rent, food, schools, etc.

Started by frawin, May 20, 2010, 05:49:24 PM

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srkruzich

Quote from: Warph on May 21, 2010, 01:51:21 PM

Diana has a good point.  If AZ were to incarcerate all illegals, we would need a prison the size of Delaware.  I know, we could line them up in the desert, have them dig trenches and then.... naw.... that wouldn't work either.... mess up the desert eco system.


 

Sherriff joe doesn't need anything but a tent and pink uniforms.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

srkruzich

Quote from: sixdogsmom on May 21, 2010, 02:15:18 PM
Diane has a good point; if there is no work for the illegals, then they won't come.
If there is no market for the drugs, then they won't come.
I'll tell ya, that line about work and all doesn't hold water anymore.  You can't hire a illegal today for less than 10 dollars an hour.  They don't work cheap.  They aren't coming here for the work, they're coming here for the freebies. 
The question is not why aren't we going after employers, but why are we giving them foodstamps, housing, medical care, free school and on and on and on when they are illegal?  IF you don't give all that to them, they won't come.  cut it out!  IF they do not have proper papers, then tough luck jose, go back home. 


Quotealong with under the table jobs
They don't need under the table jobs.  All they ahve to do is give a made up social security card. 
Not only that, what about the states that allow a illegal to get a drivers license without identifying them as a illegal.
But thats neither here nor there, If their illegal, they're breaking the law.  WHy not put their ass in jail.  Sentence em to the the specified period of time for breaking the law, stick em on a chain gang and once their time is done, send them back across the border.  What is so hard about that.


Quoteand drying up the demand for illegal recreational drugs.
There is only 2 ways to stop drugs.  first way and most effective is to execute every drug addict and dealer.
Simple and to the point.  But people don't have the stomach for that.  Second way is to legalize all drugs including prescription drugs and make them available to anyone that walks in without a prescription.  That will bottom out the profit for the dealers and they wont' bother.


QuoteThe issue of guns being smuggled out of this country also needs to be addressed.
Why? 

QuoteProfiling may be useful in some instances such as finding a serial killer, but I am not sure that it is something we want to see as a screening tool on an everyday basis.
You know profiling is not a bad thing.  Why is it that we can't use the information we have to identify a potential criminal.  Why?

I think if you are looking for mexican illegals or paki illegals you don't go searching 70 year old white ladies.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Diane Amberg

Ok, I'll bite, what is a "potential criminal?" Where is that in the constitution? ;D   Execute every drug addict? Even the vets?  Do you have any idea how many Docs are on drugs? Shame, shame. And how do you know what money an illegal will work for? How could you possibly know? Do you hire them? Are your bees illegal ? Show me your papers pleaszzzzzz.   And yes, my question is STILL why don't we go after the employers also? They are part of the problem.

srkruzich

Quote from: Diane Amberg on May 21, 2010, 05:47:15 PM
Ok, I'll bite, what is a "potential criminal?" Where is that in the constitution? ;D   Execute every drug addict? Even the vets?  Do you have any idea how many Docs are on drugs? Shame, shame.

I told ya folks wouldn't have the stomach for it. The simple fact is that it would work! 

QuoteAnd how do you know what money an illegal will work for? How could you possibly know? Do you hire them? Are your bees illegal ? Show me your papers pleaszzzzzz.   And yes, my question is STILL why don't we go after the employers also? They are part of the problem.
Actually yes i have tried in the past.  I had work for someone to do and no one would do it. 
why go after employers?  If they don't have a ready source to hire that is illegal then they won't hire them.  Most of the employers don't know if these folks are illegal or not. Cause you catch all hell if you "profile" them or even ask if their legal.
God help ya if you ask them to prove it like Arizona is doing....

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Diane Amberg

I had to show "papers" when I started teaching. So did Al, plus he had to swear allegiance.

srkruzich

Quote from: Diane Amberg on May 21, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
I had to show "papers" when I started teaching. So did Al, plus he had to swear allegiance.

I'm sorry i don't know what you mean. 

If you are a citizen,  you are required to provide a tin/ssn and a birth certificate and a drivers license or passport.
that satisfies the i9 forms.

If your a green card holder you have to provide your card info.

there isn't much that is required of employers to ask for to determine eligibility to work. IF a person comes up with the documentation then they are complying.  Now no employer except the govt has the means to identify forged documents. 
That is a problem.  its not hard at all to produce a ss card with a number on it, nor is it hard to produce a birth certificate. Drivers licenses are easy to produce also, and you can even buy the hologram that they put onthem online now days.
Passports are hard to forge. 

I don't remember other documents that will satisfy the i9 verification. 

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

Diane Amberg

I had to show the documents you mentioned plus my teaching certificate, a copy of my UD graduation diploma and a copy of the scores on my teaching mastery test, which was the equivalent of taking "boards."

srkruzich

Quote from: Diane Amberg on May 22, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
I had to show the documents you mentioned plus my teaching certificate, a copy of my UD graduation diploma and a copy of the scores on my teaching mastery test, which was the equivalent of taking "boards."
Ok i don't doubt it, I am not in the medical or teaching field so diplomas and certificates never applied to me. 
I have never ever been asked for a HS diploma or a college diploma or degree even though i have two AS degrees.  My experience in the areas i worked in was used in place of requirement for a Masters degree when i would go interview on a job. 
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

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