School overstepping their right...........

Started by Teresa, March 26, 2010, 06:04:02 PM

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Diane Amberg

You may see it that way, but if the girl's mother is going to sue, she may be advised to include the boy and/ or his family for with -holding information, even if the clinic kept it secret. Beats me, but the law and lawyers can complicate vanilla pudding if it's advantageous.

jerry wagner

The child was old enough to be sexually active, they should be considered old enough to make their own decisions.  In most states, the underage parent is considered legally emancipated once they give birth, why should that status not extend from the point of pregnancy.  Further to the above, it is not the parents' body, it is the girl's and she should make her decision and have a right to privacy.

jarhead

Jerry,
Do you really beleive what you just said or are you just trying to fan the flames ? I guess an 8 year old girl is old enough to be sexually active so she should have a right to privacy ?????? How about a 6 year old if they are "6 going on 16 " ??? Give me a break.

srkruzich

Quote from: jerry wagner on March 26, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
The child was old enough to be sexually active, they should be considered old enough to make their own decisions.  In most states, the underage parent is considered legally emancipated once they give birth, why should that status not extend from the point of pregnancy.  Further to the above, it is not the parents' body, it is the girl's and she should make her decision and have a right to privacy.

You seem to forget, that minors do not have a right to privacy.  That only comes with adulthood which is 18. 

Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

srkruzich

Quote from: jarhead on March 26, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
Jerry,
Do you really beleive what you just said or are you just trying to fan the flames ? I guess an 8 year old girl is old enough to be sexually active so she should have a right to privacy ?????? How about a 6 year old if they are "6 going on 16 " ??? Give me a break.

Yeah me thinks he's fanning flames.  I wanna see his face when his kids come ot him and tell him they have a right to privacy.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

jerry wagner

Quote from: jarhead on March 26, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
Jerry,
Do you really beleive what you just said or are you just trying to fan the flames ? I guess an 8 year old girl is old enough to be sexually active so she should have a right to privacy ?????? How about a 6 year old if they are "6 going on 16 " ??? Give me a break.

So you are saying the eight year that is pregnant should have no say in the decision?  And I'm sorry but generally a six year is unable to become pregnant as her sexual organs have not developed sufficiently.... so who is trying to fan the flames.

Quote from: srkruzich on March 26, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
You seem to forget, that minors do not have a right to privacy.  That only comes with adulthood which is 18. 



No I have not forgotten... but if bothered to read my post, I had stated that a minor that gives birth in most states is considered emancipated and thus gains the rights of an adult in re: decision making and privacy so why should that right only extend at child birth was my question.

srkruzich

Quote from: jerry wagner on March 26, 2010, 08:37:41 PM
So you are saying the eight year that is pregnant should have no say in the decision? 
Why would a 8, 10, 12 year old have any say in it.  THey are minors under their parents authority. THey are not granted that privelege and right until they are of age.


QuoteNo I have not forgotten... but if bothered to read my post, I had stated that a minor that gives birth in most states is considered emancipated and thus gains the rights of an adult in re: decision making and privacy so why should that right only extend at child birth was my question.
That isn't exactly true.  They only have rights extending to their baby. Thats it, they are NOT emancipated nor gain all rights and responsibilities of adults including privacy.  The law still says the parents have to take care of her, and if thats the case then she is under their authority and rules.  In OTHER words, if you live in my house, you follow my rules.
Curb your politician.  We have leash laws you know.

jarhead

Jerry, a 5 year old Peruvian girl gave birth to a baby. I didn't say you were fanning the flames . I asked if you were trying too but I think you've answered my question.

Varmit

Quote from: jerry wagner on March 26, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
The child was old enough to be sexually active, they should be considered old enough to make their own decisions. 

Ok, thats a little twisted...How would you define old enough to be sexually active?

Quote from: Diane Amberg on March 26, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
You may see it that way, but if the girl's mother is going to sue, she may be advised to include the boy and/ or his family for with -holding information, even if the clinic kept it secret. Beats me, but the law and lawyers can complicate vanilla pudding if it's advantageous.

So should the boy and his family be able to sue the girl and her family if she didn't tell him?


It is high time we eased the drought suffered by the Tree of Liberty. Let us not stand and suffer the bonds of tyranny, nor ignorance, laziness, cowardice. It is better that we die in our cause then to say that we took counsel among these.

pamagain

   Few thoughts.......
school was wrong...period. Never should have happened that way

Parents evidently didn't have a good enough relationship with the daughter that she trusted them enough to tell them and discuss options with THEM. So they were wrong also.

Far as abortion that's a cross every individual has to choose whether or not to burden themselves with. I choose not to and would counsel my daughter that way too but would still listen to her and understand if she did, but then again I gave her information and plain talk about consequences of actions instead of ignoring the fact she was growin up so I haven't HAD that problem.

That law is wrong and should be repealed. I understand some parents are not able or willing to listen to their kids or help them when they fall or jump off the pedestal but that fact does not make it right, it just makes it hard for the children of THOSE parents and that is an awful thing.

Jerry you are wrong on this one.

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