Census form

[Wilma]

Thank you, Warph.  This little red house is not my residence.  I just own it and it isn't even really a house.  It has no plumbing, just electricity and gas.  It is one room, about 100 sq. ft., used to be the residence of an old man.  Hasn't been used for anything but storage for at least 20 years.  Doesn't even have an address since it is part of the property that a trailer house sets on.  The trailer house has an address and the form for that address will be sent back.  I am not refusing to send it back.  It should never had been left there.  What happens when no one lives at the place where the form is left?  Is the owner responsible for seeing that it is returned?  And should I just mark it, not a residence?  Or should I fill it out as no occupants?  The only address on the form is S. Walnut, no house number.  I wonder if this was intended for the house that was demolished recently, but I am sure that house had a house number.

[jarhead]

WARPH,
What ya mean "tell them Jarhead took it "?? Damn buddy, ol Jarhead gets in enough trouble on his own. Don't need no help.
A  census worker was in our city last week. asked me about a vacant junk house across the street and wanted to know what the house number would be. a polite lady and she went on down the street knocking on doors or hanging the paperwork on door knobs. She never did come to my house. You reckon they were doing the odd numbered houses first, then an even number person will come here later ? Maybe with friends like WARPH they already "got  my number " !!!

[Varmit]

Got my form today, filled out the first question, put it in the return envelope, and will send it off tomorrow.  Seems to me that if the postal service is having trouble showing a profit the gov't would use it.  Why the hell they think they need to hand deliever these things is beyond me.

By the way, it seems that the "fines" are more of a scare tactic.  The gov't has a history of not enforcing that "law". 

[Teresa]

I find that the questions name address phone number and if I own or rent can be found on the internet if they google my name.. weird that the ones that need counted and can't be found..are the ones that are here are the non productive and  illegals..
The rest of us have a paper trail a mile wide and 1 million miles deep..
But....I'm not wasting sleep over their goofy stupid census..~~~~~~

[Wilma]

Let me tell you a little story about why I, a one-sixteenth Cherokee Indian, do not receive any tribal funds.  I had a great grandfather who refused to be registered as an Indian at the time they were registering the Oklahoma Indians.  His reason was that you had to be living on Indian land to be on the registry and he refused to live on Indian land.  Therfore, all his descendants were cut off from any Indian funds, whether grants from the government or profits from gambling casinos.  Even though several of his siblings and his father were registered, because he didn't register, we do not exist as a part of the Cherokee Nation.

What does this have to do with the census?  Suppose that several generations later, something comes up that would create a large sum of money for someone, but because they did not appear on the 2010 census, they cannot prove that they are entitled to it.

Another thing of value that has come from the Census has been in obtaining a birth certificate for people that were not recorded at the time of their birth.  Census records have been used to show their age at a certain time and where they lived, who their parents were, etc.  I know this because this is the way my mother obtained hers.  She was born in the Oklahoma Territory.  She also used Census records to prove her age for Social Security benefits.

You all can rant as much as you want to about the legality of the census, but I am filling mine out, answering every question, mailing it back.  When noses are counted for anything good, I want to be sure that mine is there.

[Varmit]

And speaking of using the Census for things other than enumeration.  Did you know that the census was a tool used to round up japanesse people during WWII and place them in prison camps?  Or the fact that the IRS sometimes uses the census to detect and prosecute tax fraud? 

As far as the "indian" thing goes, the gov't shouldn't be giving them any money.

As for noses being counted, I want mine being counted as among those who actually stood up for the Constitution and our Freedom.

[redcliffsw]

You might want to check this out:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Mountain-NC/CONFEDERATE-SOUTHERN-AMERICAN-CENSUS-2010/335335520776?ref=ts

[Wilma]

Varmit, do you think my mother shouldn't have been able to prove her age for social security, too?  Or establish the year she was born?

[frawin]

Wilma, I have been trying to remember the old gentleman that lived in the little one room house across from you, and I think it was Mr. Ingle. He was a real tall slender person and always wore overalls. Weather permitting, he sat on the front porch and waited on me to deliver his paper everyday. I think he was Ted and Wilbur's Father, but not sure. This would have been around 1950.
Frank

[Wilma]

Frank, excuse me while I go dig out the abstract on that place.  Will be right back.