US Military Defends Bible Verses on Rifles

[Varmit]

a couple thoughts on this thread....

Its nice to see warph finally showing his vile racism in a more plain manner instead of trying to veil himself like an old afghan woman.

Varmit suggested that the soldiers do something about it if they don't like it.  Soldiers don't really have the right of free speech.  They probably don't have the right or ability to remove engravings from their weapons, and we don't really know what soldiers feel about them.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, except actively serving military.  Their opinion is their commanding officers opinion.

When both the jews and muslims agree on something (notice how warph railed against muslims, but not a word against the jews who have the same opinion)  they are probably right.  They both said its a detriment to our armed forces because its useful propaganda for our enemy.  I agree with this pov.

Thats not really true.  Soldiers do have the right to free speech and their own opinion.  Officers and NCO's know full well that it is the E4's and below that get the job done and most even value their input. 

The only people I see complaining aren't in the military and frankly its none of their business.

[Anmar]

warph, i was in boot camp!

my drill sargeant told me i'm not allowed to complain!

[Varmit]

Well, DUH!  Boot is a little different.  You're right, in Basic you're not allowed to complain, you haven't earned that priviledge yet.  In Boot the DI's have a job to do.  Part of that job is to breakdown your sense of individuality and get you to function as a team.  Until you have completed that process you are treated as a collective and not individual members of that collective, that comes later. 

BTW, how long were you in for?  What was your MOS?  What branch?

[srkruzich]

warph, i was in boot camp!

my drill sargeant told me i'm not allowed to complain!

You don't have a right to complain in boot camp. IN boot camp you haven't earned that right.  From day one to graduation your nothing.  When you graduate you become something with those rights.

[jarhead]

Right on Steve. I can't speak for other branches of service but in my beloved Corps you are a recruit, among other names, until the day you graduate boot camp. And on that day you are finally adressed as a Marine and get the EA&G, but not before. I know sevaral people in this area that joined the Corps but did not make it thru boot camp. They can say they joined the Corps but can never claim the title of being a Marine.
Varmit, I dobt that Anmar is gonna answer your question but when he used the term "drill Sgt" that excludes the Corp and the Navy. Not sure about the air force ? Sarge ?

[Sarge]

The Air Force calls them TI's = Tactical Instructor.

[sixdogsmom]

So Steve, tell us about your military service!

[srkruzich]

So Steve, tell us about your military service!

Why?

[sixdogsmom]

I'm interested.

[Diane Amberg]

I was interested too, as was Al, and I asked both Steve and Varmit quite a ling time ago. Neither would tell anything. They always assume anyone who asks is up to something. Maybe because they always are?    I had already told where Al had had basic and where he ended up and why, but they wouldn't reciprocate. So much for military pride. (just pok'n at ya, honest.)