Stop Using Cell Phones!!

Wilma · January 17, 2010, 03:16:43 PM

I don't care because I am not doing anything that I am ashamed of. And if you are so concerned about someone discovering what you are doing, maybe you shouldn't be doing it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean that it is being done. Besides if the government can do it, you can darned well be assured that the less than honorable factions are doing it also. Maybe you should just go hibernate somewhere and cut off all communication as there is no privacy anymore. Besides, whatever they find can't be used in court unless they have a warrant.

Varmit · January 17, 2010, 03:24:58 PM

"I'm not doing anything illegal so it doesn't matter that the police are breaking the law"...that is sad. How can you say something like that and then turn around and claim that you support our military? Men have died to defend our country and our constitution yet you don't care. Nothing but sheep...

srkruzich · January 17, 2010, 05:22:30 PM

Quote from: Wilma on January 17, 2010, 03:16:43 PM
I don't care because I am not doing anything that I am ashamed of. And if you are so concerned about someone discovering what you are doing, maybe you shouldn't be doing it. Just because it can be done doesn't mean that it is being done. Besides if the government can do it, you can darned well be assured that the less than honorable factions are doing it also. Maybe you should just go hibernate somewhere and cut off all communication as there is no privacy anymore. Besides, whatever they find can't be used in court unless they have a warrant.

That is plain sad that you don't care that the Government is violating the law. No wonder our country is going to hell. If the people don't care what the government does, then we are all screwed.

Wilma · January 17, 2010, 05:56:40 PM

And just who put the people in the government. WE did. How can we blame the government for something that we helped it do? Can we change it? Sure we can. But it has to be done legally or we will be as bad as we claim they are. So where does that leave us. Sitting here bitching about what is being done or preparing to do something about it as soon as it can legally be done? Bitching is easier, isn't it?

Teresa · January 17, 2010, 07:10:35 PM

I don't think if we did whatever we could do.. they still are going to do whatever they do.. Once a crook ..always a crook..

I agree.. I'm not doing anything wrong ( in my eyes) but it isn't anyone damned business what I am doing.. and they don't have any right to monitor anything I do unless they have very good probable cause..

The end.. lol

srkruzich · January 17, 2010, 09:03:56 PM

Quote from: Wilma on January 17, 2010, 05:56:40 PM
And just who put the people in the government. WE did. How can we blame the government for something that we helped it do? Can we change it? Sure we can. But it has to be done legally or we will be as bad as we claim they are. So where does that leave us. Sitting here bitching about what is being done or preparing to do something about it as soon as it can legally be done? Bitching is easier, isn't it?

Well no i didn't put these criminals in office. But it doesn't relieve me of the responsibility of holding them accountable for violating the law. Writing is one step. VOting is another and if that doesn't work, replacing them by impeachment and if that doeesn't work, then by force.

greatguns · January 17, 2010, 09:05:45 PM

Well get with it and let me know how it works out for you.

sixdogsmom · January 17, 2010, 09:27:43 PM

Using a cell phone is kind of like standing out in the yard, yelling at your neighbor across the street. Who ever happens by, either accidentally or on purpose can be an eavesdropper. Not your intention you say; sometimes we must be a little more careful when we want to be discreet. You wouldn't want to criticize the pastors' wife while sitting at a public restraunt with the town gossip in the next booth. Neither would you want to discuss plans for subversive actions on a cell phone. Some did that, and with the government security surveillance, they were caught. The government can monitor anything that I do if it helps to keep us safe. I know, I don't like the idea of somebody looking over my shoulder either. Times are changed from when the constitution was penned, and I do think that the fathers of this country did an absolutely great job! None could have seen the advances in technology, nor the developments that the world has seen in the past two hundred years.

Wilma · January 17, 2010, 10:43:30 PM

SDM, I like the way you put that. Nothing is secret anymore and if the government needs to use the latest in technology, so be it. Somehow or other, I feel safe. Now someone is going to say, how can you feel safe when........................ I will just say, I am glad my cup is half full.

srkruzich · January 17, 2010, 11:42:51 PM

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Franklin Feb 17, 1775

Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say "what should be the reward of such sacrifices?" Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Samuel Adams August 1 1776

Our forefathers didn't have to know about technology. Technology isn't the problem, the problem is the men who usurp their powers to use that technology. THat has not changed in 234 years. What they wrote and dreamed 234 years ago still holds today in todays time and society. The only thing that has changed is the new tools of technology that can be used to usurp authority from the people and to destroy this republic. BUT only if we allow them to. THat brings the second quote. THe reason this country is allowing the Government to do so is they prefer to trade their liberty for wealth and comfort. Those that say i've got it good, i'm doing ok, my bills are paid, i have food to eat, are selling their liberty for wealth. And as adams said you are nothing more than a slave if you do. His point was that freedom is a eternal vigil and a eternal fight to keep that very freedom.

You know i raise goats. I have had opportunity to raise sheep but i don't because goats are smarter.
When you go to shear a sheep or if a predator goes and tackles a sheep to kill it, once that sheep is on the ground on its side, it lays there and does nothing. The coyote can kill at leisure and essentially eat it alive.
When a goat is taken down, it fights. IT fights for its life from the second it realizes its in danger and runs to the second it takes its last breath. It doesn't just lay there and wait to be eaten.

the comparison is quite accurate when people are referred to as sheep. As long as they are comfortable they will lay there and be eaten alive.